To all the subscribers of the AMREV-HESSIANS Rootsweb list
from your listowner and Hessian researcher
Johannes Helmut Merz, in short "John"
A very merry Christmas Season
Talk to you again on Monday.
John
Hi, John;
Have some add'l info on poss. Hessian settlers here:
From: History of Franklin & Grand Isle Counties, Lewis Cass Aldrich,
Syracuse, N.Y. 1891, p.598-99:
from papers of Amos Skeels, first settlers were:
1785/6 - Joseph Rhicard, John Hilliker (Heyliger?)
1787 - Conrad Barr, John Saxe, John Steinhour, John Shelter, George
Wilson, John Hogle, Peter Lampman, Peter Waggoner.
1789/91- John Stimets, Henry Hoffman.
I don't think that Rhicard, Hilliker, Wilson, Hogle, Lamp
Thanks, Charles for the plug, I would like to add that whenever the
Source #401 is mentioned, it refers to postings one can find in the
AMREV-HESSIANS-L rootsweb archives. (Listed below)
John, just taking a break from cookie baking duties.
S9359338@aol.com wrote:
> John's Book "Guide to finding your Hessian Soldier" (which is quite
> good and reasonable). Has listed Schoenbacher, Schoendach, Schoenell,
> Schoenemann, and Schoentag with first names and references.
> There are other references to
Hello, subscribers, this may not be of interest to everybody, but you
may mention this to your German friends and neighbours who are on the
Internet. There is a new mailing list for the central part of Germany
(Hessen) but it is restricted to the use of German-speakers, no postings
in English to be made for the benefit of those Germans who do not speak
and write English. It is designed to serve those family roots searchers
whose ancestors never left the old country.
To subscribe you use the same commands
bcyoung@together.net wrote:
>
> Hello, John;
> I finally got to read the back issues on AMREV digest where
> you so kindly posted the Bierwirth info. I don't think that
> the Burghard Bierwirth name sheds any light on my problem,
> nor does it make things any more cloudy.
> I was hoping to get a process of elimination going, but
> without being sure what Johan's middle name was, there's not
> much hope of that! Have you ever seen a Johan Georg o
Hello, Ray, excellent research job on your part, except that your
Arnold Haupt was a Grenadier with the Hesse-Kassel Regt.von Donop,
which was not a part of the Burgoyne Army, which surrendered at
Saratoga. The Regt.v Donop landet with the Hessian troops at New York
and took part in many battles, Long Island, Fort Washington, Brandywine,
Germantown, Springfield, and I think in June 1778 when Arnold Haupt
deserted, they were somewhere near Philadelphia.
(would suggest to read the 'Diary of Lieutenant von Ba
My brick wall is coming down on the origin of my maternal name of
Kripliver/Kriplever. My one cousin told me yesterday that there was a
Hessian soldier of the last name of Kriplever. He said he saw the name in a
book about Revolutionary soldiers.
GFS Nance@aol.com
Dear Adam Geibel, my strongest suggestion would be to start your new
year with subscribing to the AMREV-HESSIANS mail list, which has to
offer a lot of information concerning Hessian soldiers anywhere in
America, which includes Canada. Just check out the archives, and since
I am putting this over the list, you may get some good pointers from
our other subscribers.
Wish you also a happy New Year.
John Merz, listowner.
mailto:ACARLG@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Mr. Merz,
> Greetings and Happy New Year.
>
I'm doi
bcyoung@together.net wrote:
> Hello, John -
> Thanks for clueing me in on searching highgate in the AMREV !!
> I did some digging in my records and find that John Beerwort's wife,
> Barbara
> Mock had a sister Elizabeth Mock who married JOHN STEINMETZ of
> Highgate, VT
> and the name has now been anglicized to STIMETS !! Johannes Mock, the
> father,
> was not a Hessian, however. He was a farmer living near Albany and
> joined
> Leakes' company in 1777, and in 1 Jan. 1783 was mustered in Meyer's
> Compa
Dear John,
You wrote: >>Checking Clifford Neal Smith Monograph
Number 1 - Brunswick Deserters, he has the same name
and information, but no Johann Wrede, or Frede.>>
There is a Johann Wrede (No. 41) listed on page 127 in Smith's
Monograph 3, Part 3:"Muster Rolls and Prisoner-of-War Lists in
American Archival Collections Pertaining to the German Mercenary
Troops Who Served with the British Forces During the American
Revolution". Right below the category Captain Mers' Company
there is a category "Recruit
Bdhery@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi John:
> I am interested in Heinrich Degenhard, from Elgershausen, Schaumburg,
> HessenGermany.
> He was born 1754/55, and was in the battle of Trenton, NJ, and deserted, and
> worked for a Matthew Bowman in Lebanon/Lancaster Co., Pa. October 1777. Te
> next time I found him he was married with a daughter in1790, in Lincoln
> Co., N.C.
>
> I need to learn how to contact the Degenhard there in Germany, to find
> his parents and siblings.
>
> I belogned to the German Genealo
Just picked up a notice at another mailing list where the Hetrina
volumes were offered for sale, and I received permission to advertise
these on our list. Anyone interested please contact Mark at
mailto:sullivm1@hoffman.army.mil
Please do not ask me, I have no idea how much he is asking, and if he
has the full set of six volumes.
Cheers, John
Dear subscribers of my list - last year I mailed a similar message to
all those lists I was participating, and was in fact contemplating to
do so again, when this following message came in. Since permission was
granted to re-publish it (giving proper credit, of course) I would like
to endorse 'Bill's eloquent message whole-heartedly, to impress on you
a bit of tolerance, and by the same token, impress even more to those
who are starting out, to read up on the 'how to do things right' before
getting to deep
Louise, nice try, but I think there is a bit of a mix-up. I have read
the Fort Brooklyn Muster Rolls myself, dated 20. July 1781 with the
names of the Brunswick recruits, I deciphered them myself and only
later I did check them against other lists. The name they or you were
reading as Johann Wrede I read as Johann Weithe, born in Rostock, age
given as 35/05 (middle of 1779) which makes him born appr. 1744.
Rostock is situated right at the south coast of the Baltic Sea, and did
belong to Prussia at one time.
Forgot. Imagine an Hessian who became: Jirimie Bleu, who married a Mailhot
in my ancestry.
Then you search and find: Lebleu, Leblanc, Blue, Lablue and what else. Much
fun. I'll find the link back to the origins of BLEU is I don't get the blues
first.
Roger Mailhot
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Quite a gift indeed and thank you. Santa must have been German
Well, we did get the Chistmas tree idea transmitted by a Garman lady
here in Quebec. And what about the music in our churches?
Thank you
Roger Mailhot
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From: John Helmut Merz
To:
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:20 PM
Subject: [REV-HESSIANS] A beautiful German website
> Somebody gave me an early Christmas present in my guestbook, and
> I do want to pass it
John's Book "Guide to finding your Hessian Soldier" (which is quite good and
reasonable). Has listed Schoenbacher, Schoendach, Schoenell, Schoenemann, and
Schoentag with first names and references.
There are other references to specific troops , battles, and movements, as
well.
Charles Severs
I have to address the list because I have a mystery on my hands, which
I am sure could be solved by one of our dedicated subscribers.
We haved had enquiries before of this name, but none with the explicit
details provided now by Michael P. Kasler of Ohio. In a letter to me
he included an account which said that Michael was born in 1758, and
came to America as a Hessian soldier of the Prince of Hesse-Cassel.
In a Vermont Historical Magazine July 1863 it was stated that he was
wounded at the Battle of Benning
For the record, yes, I am researching Hessian and Brunswick soldiers
who remained in North America after the American Revolution. All I can
say at this point in time, that I have not come across this name as yet.
This is why I put it over the mail lists and see what happens.
Regards, John http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian
Carol Young wrote: mailto:bcyoung@together.net
>
> John - I am inferring from your handle that you may have Hessian
> or Braunschweig info. I am interested in tracing the above
Can anyone tell me how to go about finding the place of birth, etc. in
Germany for my ancesor John Corrick, who was in Frederick Co., MD, and then
settled in Randolph Co., VA, possibly dying in Ohio.
I just recently I learned the following and am unfamiliar with Hessian records:
Johann Kaspar Karrich from the Ansbach-Bayreuth Regiment was in Frederick
County, Maryland for a few years after the war, but must have gone
elsewhere before 1800. He was surrendered at Yorktown, Va. in 1781,
imprisoned in Freder
Somebody gave me an early Christmas present in my guestbook, and
I do want to pass it on to my friends on this mail list.
Just click on it and see for yourself -
http://userweb.piasanet.com/wigger/default.htm
All the best to all of you,
John
Kelley Bowden-Sadosky in Alaska wrote to John:
SNIP
> I have just received information about Andreas Suckfort/Suchforth who
> was my 5g. grandfather. According to the information I received Andreas
> was pardoned/paroled to the German community in Waldoboro, Maine after
> the Revolutionary War.
SNIP
> I would love to have any dates, places, anything! I would appreciate any
> hints as to where to go from here. to continue my search.
SNIP
> A family rumor is that his last name may have been Zukendorf, and t
Dear Louise, during my many years of research I have discovered that
we have a tremendous problem with secondary sources of information,
which become third and fourth sources in no time, and now those
Ancestry.com source perhaps the fifth source, and everytime somebody
quotes a source (and this includes me) we may quote some wrong
information. The moral of the story - go for the original source!
The dear departed Clifford Neal Smith, whose monographs are a third
source of Hessian information already, afte
Book by Smith, Clifford Neal - entitled (I believe) "Brunswick Deserter
Immigrants of American Revolution"
reportedly has an entry on page 39 regarding a Julius SCHRADER, age 29 (in
1776). I would greatly apreciate receiving the information on this entry
or a reference on where I might find the book.