Rebecca and all,
I cannot give advice with NY records, but as as a possible explanation,
accurate astrology charts require the time and place of birth. My
grandmother calculated and read astrology charts for a living ca. 40 years
ago, before computers. Her book of her family's charts is a genealogists
treasure.
Nedra
Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist brillnd@pacifier.com
Historian, Henckel Family National Association
Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, wvpendle-l@rootsweb.com
At 02:37 PM 1/4/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone:
>
>I would like some feedback on the issue of marketing genealogical services.
>I pulled the short straw to organize a workshop on this topic at the Feb.
>4th meeting of the Connecticut Professional Genealogists Council. I don't
>know of any local specialist in this topic, so I figure I need to identify
>the important issues and find some way to provoke discussion around them.
>I'm sure that if you provided some feedback on this the presentation could
>only
Ask the state for a "full" birth certificate or the "long form" of the birth
certificate. Many birth certificates are abbreviated or abstracted versions
of the original. The hospital will help you, IF they still have the records.
But the request must be from the individual on the record, or the parent. In
other words, you cannot request it for a client.
Kathleen W. Hinckley, CGRS
Specialist in Locating Living Persons
http://www.familydetective.com
e-mail: kathleen@familydetective.com
Family Detective
P.O.
In a message dated 1/12/99 8:16:58 PM Central Standard Time, ACWomack@aol.com
writes:
<< don't apply the spelling to names >>
LOL, obviously! I found some GWARTNEYs in Cherokee records as GARDINERs.
Lisa
sparrow1@aol.com
>Subject: Situation at 231 Capitol Avenue Building
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>Well, another one for the State Library history books. Another instance of
>responding to the
>unknown.
>
>As I'm sure everyone knows, a flood was discovered on Monday morning by Jim
>Gasser and his
>Maintenance crew at the State Library, 231 Capitol Avenue. It was caused
by a
>broken pipe which had
>frozen sometime over the weekend, and burst. Although no collections or
>operat
In a message dated 1/11/99 1:00:42 PM Central Standard Time, Botwinick@aol.com
writes:
<< What I
would like to know is how can I genalogist? >>
Maybe I'm too prissy, but I would first encourage them to learn to spell the
word.
Lisa
sparrow1@aol.com
On Monday, January 11, 1999 5:59 PM, jeff@mass-doc.com
[SMTP:jeff@mass-doc.com] wrote:
> Is anyone familiar with new web software called
> Net Detective?
Being of a somewhat libertarian bent, I'm inclined to say the best rules are
"no rules". When I moderated a couple of conferences on the Fidonet system
that was my credo. When I trusted the adult readers to police themselves
they did.
Some people have asked why the original message about this software appeared
as they suspected (and I do) that it was a n
Greeting to all APG Members
The Birthday Committee is still in need of members to volunteer their
time during the Birthday Celebrations at the NGS and FGS conferences.
We need members who are willing to wear a badge with their area of
expertise and be willing to answer questions. The idea is to give each
person who attends the celebration a ticket which they can use to ask a
question of an APG member.
There will be a reception at Richmond and St. Louis. Pick either/or/both.
It should be a fun time for
Hi Mary and Gregory and Friends,
In a message dated 1/15/99 5:06:07 PM, MaryMcBell@aol.com wrote:
>I have more unbillable hours due to learning curves!!! I agree with Gregory
>and do not feel that I can charge the client for my lack of knowledge.
>
>Mary M. Bell
I agree, too!
I love the opportunity to learn about records I haven't used before by digging
into them--as long as I feel I can do justice to my client's research needs.
I always deduct my learning time from the client's invoice.
Best,
Lesl
At 02:37 PM 1/4/99 -0500, Barbara J. Mathews wrote:
>Hi Everyone:
>
>I would like some feedback on the issue of marketing genealogical services.
>I pulled the short straw to organize a workshop on this topic at the Feb.
>4th meeting of the Connecticut Professional Genealogists Council. I don't
>know of any local specialist in this topic, so I figure I need to identify
>the important issues and find some way to provoke discussion around them.
>I'm sure that if you provided some feedback on this the presentat
Do any of you have ideas/experiences/advice on how to get
more business from law firms for heir searching?
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Box 8686 Evening Phone/Fax:
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Lexington, KY 40533-8686 Email:
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Botwinick:
Good question....................
I own a genealogy bookstore and write a weekly genealogical column in the Houston Chronicle. I, also, teach genealogical classes and lecture. In the past I lived and conducted professional genealogy in New Orleans and in Atlanta, Georgia at the State Archives, the National Archives and several local libraries and courthouses.
While I feel the Clayton Library, here, in Houston is very comprehensive and is one of the very best collections of the South and some
On the other hand, the professional does possess the general methodological
which would enable one to proceed quicker than the amateur while learning the
records. I believe in offering disclosure of one's state of knowledge and an
appropriate discount to the client and allowing the client to decide whether
or not to patronize you.
(Of course, one would never use this avenue to learn garden variety sources
but only to pursue sources outside the norm that have promise.)
Lisa
sparrow1@aol.com
In a message dated 1/12/1999 10:39:49 AM Central Standard Time,
rcoleman@netins.net writes:
> Have enjoyed the responses to the question of how to become a
> genalogist. Mic hit it on the head about it not being your only source
> of income. And I agree with Lisa. Learn to spell. That is very
> important in any occupation, but especially in genealogy.
So very true. But don't apply the spelling to names. I found my maiden name
"Carpenter"
spelled "Karbender." (Also, I found a spelling error in
Hello - I have been asked by someone to find their exact time of birth.
It's apparently not listed on their birth certificate of 1952.
Any ideas here? Would contacting the Hospital be of any use?
Thanks,
Rebecca Rector, MLS
New York State
Something went wrong on 1/3 when we uploaded the new web page. It is out
there but we have some problems with the access. I hope to have it fixed
asap.
Regards
Peter van der Heijden
APG webmaster
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At 10:36 PM 1/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/11/99 1:00:42 PM Central Standard Time,
Botwinick@aol.com
>writes:
>
><< What I
> would like to know is how can I genalogist? >>
>
>
>Maybe I'm too prissy, but I would first encourage them to learn to spell the
>word.
>
>Lisa
>sparrow1@aol.com
>
Lisa ----------
I have been thinking the same thing but didn't know how to say it as well
as you have. Thank you for voicing my thoughts! So often I see the word
misspelled by genealogist wannabees and I
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aol means AOL [on line service]
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requirements are as a guest lecturer=be able to present a topic
where the lecturer presents him or herself,=on aol, thurs 10pm est
topic=Whatever you feel comfortable with
ours is the jewish gen special interest group
we meet in the golden gates forum of the aol gen forum
session is one hr= you may present lecture for your choice of time
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I tried to access the APG Web sites at http://www.apgen.org and
http://www.agen.org/~apg/welcome.html, but get the message, "Forbidden.
You don't have permission to access this site on this server." However,
I am able to access http://www.apgen.org/~apg/ready.html. Should anyone
be able to access the other pages, or are they restricted to certain
users? Thanks for your help.
Rick Crume
crume@rrnet.com
The actual time for processing ranges from 6 months up to 66 months
[about five and a half years]. It depends upon such factors as whether
you are asking about yourself or someone else, whether your request is
complex or simple, whether the resulting records are more than a couple
of hundred pages, and which track your request is put into.
But they do process the requests eventually, particularly if you respond
when they ask you by letter if you are still interested in getting the
records.
Michael Ravnit
I agree completely with both messages! - yours and Mic's.
Rebecca Rector, MLS
Troy, NY
At 05:37 PM 1/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I completely agree with Mic Barnette's list of questions to ask people
>considering a career as a professional genealogist. My analogy is "the
>shoemaker's children going barefoot" -- I do research full time for my
>clients, and so I work on my own genealogy only a few times a year --
>generally when I am travelling to a genealogy conference and happen to have
>ancestors who resid
>Do any of you charge your clients time to learn a new major resource (or do
>you factor this into your general prices and specialties?)
I do not accept commissions for research in records I am unfamiliar with.
Harry
H. Spencer Byfield
sbyfield@genealogy-quest.com
Genealogy Quest
http://www.genealogy-quest.com
Rick.. Thanks for letting us know that the APG website is down. None of the
pages should be restricted or forbidden. I'm copying Peter van der Heijden
who is our webmaster, and the officers of APG so they know about the
problem. Peter is working on redesigning the site, and adding the capability
of using a credit card for membership, so that might be the reason.
Kathleen W. Hinckley, CGRS
APG Executive Secretary
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Crume
To: APG-L@rootsweb.com
Few thoughts to add in as well:
1) Invest in having a professionally developed business image (includes logo
and stationary planning), brochure & ad. When you're in a crowded market, and
you want to do well (i.e. you're relying on this company to pay your bills and
plan for your future), you have to be the one to get people's attention first,
and that means you need to stand out from the crowd.
If you're the only professional genealogist in your local area, you may not
think it necessary, but if you'