To me, and many others, the words genealogy and family history are
interchangeable. I have never cared about blood lines - that's for horses.
I think limiting what words mean can lead to misunderstanding. I'd like to
see more of us use the words interchangeably and explain to everyone that we
mean much, much more than direct blood lines (or names, dates, places). As
Marsha says it includes historical content and MUCH more. I think the
"modern" approach to genealogy/family history is much more interesting.
We probably shouldn't consider coming to grips with the meaning behind the
terms original vs. derivative; and primary vs. secondary vs. tertiary, an
exercise in semantics. Elizabeth S. Mills makes several good points about
the importance of critically evaluating documents and the information held
within those documents.
I had a few extra minutes to elaborate with some examples and hope they are
helpful. I suppose that a whole book could be written on this topic.
**** Definitions. A Starting Poin
In a message dated 3/24/02 11:56:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bmathews@gis.net writes:
> Again, I ask, what do we think of this?
Barbara-
While you are discussing this subject you may as well also mention
aqueduct.dll which is included with the newer versions of FTW and which
*could* also be used as spyware -- not saying it is and FTW denies that it is
but it is still there.
Joan
I have had a set of the 11th Edition for over 40 years, and it is still among
my most used references. I'm glad to learn it's now on line.
The bookseller who sold me my set (at a price that was a steal) recommended
it as "the last scholarly edition," and experience has confirmed his
description--but he also warned against falling into the trap of thinking
scholarship has gone no further.
Donn Devine, CG, CGI
Wilmington DE
CG, Certified Genealogist, CGI, and Certified Genealogical Instructor are
se
As I understand it the issue does not have to do with September 11th but
with hackers getting into the data base and stealing millions of dollars.
New York TImes had an article earlier this week about it.
Eileen Polakoff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marsha Rising [mailto:MHRising@email.msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:51 PM
> To: APG-L@rootsweb.com
> Subject: [APG] BLM
>
>
> Thanks for the quick answers Pat and Brian. How the
> government land tracts could possibly have anything to do
>
In a message dated 3/15/2002 8:13:10 PM Central Standard Time,
e-shown@msn.com writes:
> All things considered, I'd place the terms above on a sliding scale,
> starting with the one that calls for the greatest amount of research . . .
>
> Cluster genealogy [although I'm not particularly fond of the term]
> Whole family research
> Family reconstitution [or reconstruction]
>
> Thoughts, anybody?
>
Elizabeth:
Having taken your class at Samford, I'd like to insert one more that (to me)
has a slightly d
Has anyone received a photocopy of the original social security application
from the Social Security Administration within the last 4-6 weeks? If yes,
would you please contact me privately? I have a few easy questions.
Thank you,
Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS
martyhiatt@starpower.net
"Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love
and respect your work." John Morris
CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists,
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On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:02:04 -0700 APG-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:
>One caveat about a "home business" and insurance companies. According
to an
>insurance agent friend of mine, who shall remain an "unnamed source" for
>obvious reasons, beware of notifying your insurance company that you are
>running a business from your home. They could drop your home owner's
>insurance.
One caveat about this advice: beware of concealing material information
from your insurance company. That in itself can be grounds
Be wary of paypal.
Read: http://www.paypalwarning.com/
It is probably ok for occasional payments. However above all, don't
leave money in it and be careful about large payments.
As it says on the site:
Your Paypal account can be frozen at any time, without advance notice
leaving you without your money for weeks (if not forever), and there
isn't much you can do about it. Paypal is currently being
investigated by regulatory authorities in four states!
-B
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Fantastic! A great way to end the week. Thanks for sharing. Now we'll all overload
the system trying to catch up!
Ann
--- Gatteb34@aol.com wrote:
> Just in case you haven't yet heard . . . BLM website came back up today.
> Hooray!
>
> Claire Bettag
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At 11:53 AM -0500 3/24/02, Barbara Mathews wrote:
>
>
>Again, I ask, what do we think of this?
I think Broderbund makes god-awful "Genealogy" products anyway and
they never had my business in the first place.
The FTM CDs have done a great deal to hurt serious genealogy. Users
just keep buying them even though they are just basically worthless,
completely unsourced third-hand information.
Anyway, i say buy a mac and use Reunion, the best Genealogy app there
is. :) (if you must use a few PC-Genealogy
I now have the dubious honor of working as genealogist for Clan Mackenzie,
USA. I will be forming a large data base of Mackenzie ancestors and am not
sure how to go about it! Do any of you have suggestions? Some of the
families will overlap, but many won't, which further complicates the problem.
Could I use my Legacy program or would this be too cumbersome? Jeanne Stump
Hi,
This was in my weekly Earthlink newsletter. We genealogists might be more
interested in the 1911 version rather than the current version.
Trish Hackett Nicola, CGRS
Seattle, WA
* 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/
It was a sad day when Britannica.com stopped offering full
access to its online encyclopedia at no charge. Those who
have been looking for a free alternative might want to surf
over to this site, which offers the complete 1911 edition of
the Encyclopedia Britanni
I am always slightly bemused by someone who insists the genealogy is nothing but blood lines, and wonder how that person goes about proving the line. All we have are paper documents attesting to some events. Only the mother knew if the paternity was clear. Might we surmise that from time to time "clear" was not as absolute as future generations might wish/think?
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If anyone can help me, please Email me directly.
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Judy wrote:
> The genealogical society from where I [previously]
> lived [wants] copies of all my files from my work there,
> [as] when another genealogist died a number of years ago.
> It was part of her will that the library receive her records.
Judy, I think you'd better check to see if they don't have a grave dug and a
stone already erected for you .
Elizabeth
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Tuscaloosa, Alabama
It is still tied up in the larger issue of unauthorized access to the Department of the Interior's computer system and the application that processes payments on Indian claims.
Just as recently as last week I read in the SF Chronicle that the judge
In the case had hired a special consultant to test the improvements and
he had been successful in breaking into the computer system and establishing fake payment accounts.
My guess would be that access to BLM records is quite a while away.
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I have been following Ken's reports on his discussion group. I read the NGS
Newsmagazine article, "Teaching Analysis, Logic, ..." NOV/DEC 2000, pp.
340-343, which prompted Ken's discussion group, when it first appeared. I
tried, without success, to get such a group started near my home. I also
read the articles specified in the original Newsmagazine article. I have
been reading the articles again, as Ken has used them. And now this
discussion of *terms*.
As I have been following all of this, it seems
To throw another phrase/concept into the ring...
Another phrase I have heard used and that I have used myself is "chain migration." This too, in the way that I use it, boils down to searching the neighbors. One can view any "migrator" as a "link in a chain" that brought him to that area. What usually connects the links in a chain are familial or neighborly relationships.
I really began using this term when searching for various "German" ancestors of my children. My maternal ancestors are from several
Marsha wrote:
<< Family history should include sources, historical context, good
narrative, etc. How does "personal history" get into the
equation? >>
Without having looked into the matter in any detail, I had assumed, just from
the terminology, that "personal history" was concerned with one person,
studying his or her place in history and biological or legal relationships to
others, while "family history" does the same for all the connected
people--both subject, of course, to Marsha's caveat that
What you might do first is check what the requirements are for the publications you are considering and the focus of that publication.
What is unique about this family? Or unique about your approach?
Or unique about the problems you were trying to solve? How
thorough was your research?
A national or "journal" publication will probably want "uniqueness" of some
sort, solid research, and something that would interest a wide audience.
From what you have said my opinion is that you would be more successful
ch
Donna Gruber saw it exactly right when she wrote:
<< I simply used, what were to me just *common sense* ways (methodologies
is a term I have only recently begun to use) to locate the data I wanted
about my
family. No formal *term* for the approach, simply a way that worked for me,
when standard beginner approaches failed. >>
and
<
Joyce, while I make it a practice not to include info on living persons in
the data at my web page, I have a question:
Did the data on your relative include a current address?
If not, unless the name was quite unusual there is practically no way
someone could link the data at your site to a specific person. Even then,
the perpetrator would have to have more information, such as a SS number.
Also, I guess I don't understand the scam. Your relative's bank account
wasn't involved, right? Is it possible for
> I have never cared about blood lines - that's for horses.
But...genealogy IS following the blood lines. Otherwise, we could just
create it to suit us and then why would we bother spending years
researching?
Clare Peden Midgley