What a strange assignment! I wonder what the professor's agenda is in this?
Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
At 09:01 PM 10/20/2000 EDT, MVMcgrs@aol.com wrote:
>The following message was sent to the National Institute on Genealogical
>Research. I E-mailed Ms. Brawner and suggested that I put her query out to
>the members of the APG-List. She agreed so I'm posting it for your input.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Margaret Brawner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:03 AM
>> Subject: genea
By separate email, I just posted an article from today's NY Times to this
list that some might find intersting (or at the least, amusing.) It has to
do with some death records in India that have been fraudulently registered so
that dishonest family members can get title to land.
Remembering well an incident on this list some months back (the scars still
fresh on my back -- ) regarding copyright. . . I want to
clarify the circumstances under which I posted this article (or more
acc
Sorry, I was trying to do too many things at once. The URL is below.
http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/news/
Chad, you are correct, OCLC is much better, but when the closest access is
miles away with parking problems, this is helpful. None of the databases
include everything, but hopefully, someday.....
Barbara Vines Little, CG
PO Box 1273
Orange, VA 22960
bvlittle@email.msn.com
540-832-3473 (evenings)
CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for
Certification of Genealogists., used und
Dear all,
For those of you interested in the student's report, I suggest you ask her
margaret@browsersafe.com She was more than willing to share.
After reading it, I don't see anything that makes anyones "motives suspect."
Diane
According to a California private investigator that taught classes here in
the local junior college about searching in public records, a person in
California needs a pi license to investigate a person or business unless
the researcher only uses public records. Interviewing is a grey area.
The laws to become a pi vary by state. Most states require them to have a
police background and/or to have worked for a pi for a specific period of
time and then to pass a test. A few states have almost no requirements.
16 October 2000
I also require a four-minimum from clients. The time spent on studying the
client's problem and deciding on the best strategy for research can easily
total an hour or more. I decided that my investment in starting a new
project should be paid by the client -- not just by me.
I have a form response to e-mail inquiries, in which I state, "My fee for
research, analysis, report-writing or travel is $30 per hour with a
four-hour minimum. Expenses I incur on behalf of clients ... Within the
min
I need an expert's expert in Raleigh to do a fairly substantial (paid)
project on early NC records. Someone like Dr. Bradley, Weynette Haun,
etc. who has time to do a thorough search and really knows the records
before the Revolutionary War, with an emphasis on both land records and
sources that are little used.
Any suggestions?
Carla Tate
I know that those that have been long time researchers will find nothing new
in what I am posting. Since the student posted her query I thought we may
have new researchers who were unaware of the information on the GenWeb or how
it can be used with other sources to obtain the desired results.
My main area of research is Indiana so I do have the Census Microfilm Records
Indiana, 1850 from the National Archives which was placed on CD by
Broderbund. On the Indiana State GenWeb site the pre 1850 marriag
> In the spring there was some info about a new book about professional
> genealogy, and that it was hopefully going to be printed in time for the
> FGS Conference in SLC in early September.
Elisabeth (and every one else who's curious) --
*ProGen* (formally titled *Professional Genealogy: A Manual for Researchers,
Writers, Editors, Teachers, and Librarians*), will be a GPC publication.
It's just under 700 pages, with 29 chapters by 21 authors.
Yes, publication had been planned to coincide with the FGS co
As some of you may be aware, my firm located in Florida, was issued a Cease
and Desist Order by the State of Illinois, for being a genealogist without
having a Private Detective license. I was not afforded an opportunity to
explain the type of work we do prior to the issuance of that Order. I
retained a large law firm and appealed that decision. The Hearings officer
agreed with my position and ruled against the State.
The State then appealed the Hearing Officer's decision to the Appellate
Court. Briefs wer
Different states have different laws to obtain a private investigator's
license. In most instances it is NOT needed to do genealogy. Illinois took
an adverse position. One of the key factors is whether you charge for your
services or not.
Harvey
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I just discovered that I seem to have fallen off the APG distribution list
since Sept. 12 (if anyone has an explanation for this, I would love to hear
it, as I did not initiate it.) No wonder my email was so quiet!
Is there an archives of messages that I could review for the past month?
There is no mention of one in the welcome message.
-- Elissa Powell
Pittsburgh, PA
Hi all,
When people ask for a quick look-up; such as, an obituary, I am happy to do
that for them. I save up these look-ups and do them all at the same time.
It pays for my gas, and I'm usually going to the library to do some other,
more intensive, type of work. (Besides, it is nice to be doing some
research that does not involve heavy thinking.)
The obituary look-ups almost always lead to further work. Some genealogists
use this as a testing ground for professinal researchers.
Connie Lenzen
* - * -
Barbara--
I'd like to give you an answer from the client's point of view. I once made
arrangements for a researcher to do some work for me. It was not a major
project, but he kept sending me little dribs and drabs of things, and was
not doing a great job--for example, he sent a photocopy from a census
without a citation, and got copies of everything in an estate file, except
the will (which I especially wanted, because I hoped that it might say
something about one daughter, my husband's great-grandmother,
Could someone please help me to know where or how I should go about
subcontracting out work? Do we have a place whereas professionals we can go
for this type of inquiry? Also can you help by letting me know if any of you
have had good or bad experiences with this process.
Thanks for the help
Cynthia M. Hofmeister
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition , West Publishing Co, 1990 is the one
I have on my shelf. I find it essential to have a good reliable reference
aid such as this. Many genealogical texts have a few definitions of
frequently used terms, but the Black's is thorough and relliable.
Merrill Hill Mosher, CG
CG is a sevice mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used
under license after periodic evaluations by the Board.
s
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USGenWeb is a volunteer non-commercial project, so the idea of
"legitimacy" is strange. That, and the fact that they not asking for
money or anything.. i'm not really sure i understand the question.
The history of the project is at:
http://www.usgenweb.com/about/about.html
It is one of the oldest genealogy sites on the web.
The USGenWeb's state county sites are run by volunteers. Some of the
sites are great repositories of data coming online, some are so-so,
most all give info on where to write for
I just wanted to Thank everyone for all the emails I have received on my
inquiry about Private investigators. There have been so many reply's I felt
it best to put an all out email to the list once again Thank you all :^)
Cynthia M. Hofmeister
I have and use Black's Law Dicitionary, but also like Barron's "Dictionary
of Legal Terms, A simplified Guide to the Language of Law." It is a pocket
sized paper back (will fit into a briefcase or totebag) written by Steven H.
Gifis. The front cover describes it as follows: Updated for the 1990s, over
2,000 legal terms defined and explained clearly and concisely. Translates
"legalese" for the layperson. Hundreds of examples to illustrate the
definitions. Ideal for quick reference or for learning more about
Does someone have a really good suggestion on a book that has the legal
terminology which commonly pops up in genealogy? I keep tripping over legal
terms in estate records and deeds that I need to clarify. I have checked
several general genealogical reference books which do have some terms in
them, but I am looking for something more comprehensive.
It is partly curiousity and partly an urge to be exact in my descriptions of
events. I have no legal background and while I have an understanding of th
I am a retired CA lawyer. I frequently investigated people during the
course of representing clients. I did it, not a private investigator.
No one, including the State Bar, ever suggested that a private
investigator's license was necessary. In fact, we could be brought up
on charges in federal court if we filed a case that had not been
investigated before it was filed (which meant investigating companies
and witnesses). CA has a number of state laws whose federal
constitutional legality is questionable.
In my earlier message today, I stated that I needed documents copies and
abstracted at the PRO. That acronymn stands for Public Record Office, which
is the National Archive for Britain. Hence, if someone wants the job, they
must either live near Kew, Surrey, England, or be planning a trip there
really soon.
Chad... (and anyone else seeking professional assistance), it is always
helpful to check the APG directory (print version) which has a very detailed
subject index, and is also arranged geographically. The current directory
lists seven members who reside in England and I do not know if any of them
subscribe to this list.
Should you want to contact one or all of them, I suggest you check the
online directory to verify address and e-mail address.
A fully searchable version of the online directory will be up