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From: "Ed & Mary Yonan"
To: "MargM" ;
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Cc: "Allison, Bill (SE Iowa)" ;
"Allison, George C."
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:50 AM
Subject: Joseph Allison...Australia
> You will find a great write-up abut the two Joseph
> Allisons and the Cockermouth murder at
> http://home.earthlink.net/~gaalli/cockermouthmurder.html
>
> If you read
Jenni,
Trials at the Old Bailey are on-line (free) Robert's trial is there.
Have a look at
www.oldbaileyonline-org/
As Robert arrived on the First Fleet, there will be mention of him in
Mollie Gillen's book "Founders of Australia".
I'm not sure where you would find information on Isabella's trial -
but others on the list are sure to know.
Alison :-)
Sydney Oz
reply to: wadingbird@bigpond.com
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>
>I was wondering if anyone is researching the following names:
>
>R
Hi Fay,
There only seem to be 3 Elizabeth Jones before 1799. You will need to pin
her down by age or place of trial etc. Do you have any other details?
Unfortunately only one has an age (24 for the one on the Britannia). The
ladies of the Lady Juliana and the Neptune have been very well documented in
books (The Floating Brothel for the Lady Juliana) and there is lots on the
Neptune on the net at http://www.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/dps/2ndflt.htm This
says Elizabeth Jones with a very unusual sentence
Hello list,
If anybody has an interest in John SILL, who arrived in NSW on the Recovery in 1819 and later married Ann MATTHEWS, I do have a very full newspaper account of the offence for which he was sentenced at Lancaster Spring Assize, 1819.
His co-accused included my great X3grandfather Anthony LEA, and if anyone knows anything about him, obviously I'd be delighted. However, it may be he never actually went, as a petition of some sort was lodged on his behalf at the Home Office - infuriatingly, result
Hello listers,
I am new to this list and I am seeking help/advice in finding
information about Joseph ALLISON who was sentenced to be executed on
07/08/1838 for the crime of murder by the High Court of Judiciary
Edinburgh. The sentence was commuted to transportation for life.
I have no further information about where he was transported to or on
which ship or from which port of departure. I would appreciate any
assistance.
Regards
Stewart
I am researching my three great grandfather, Patrick Norton (Naughton), who was sentenced to seven years transportation in 1810. Destination Port Jackson.
He was sentenced in Galway and sailed out of Cork on the convict ship "Providence".
Does any one out there have any idea what the mode of transport between Galway and Cork was. Did they walk? Did they go by cart? Were they shipped by boat?
Any help would be appreciated.
Don Wilson
Nelson
New Zealand
Good morning Elizabeth,
Here is a Website which will provide to Carolyn, all the information she
would ever wish to have about William Charker and Elizabeth Sheckle
(Sheckel):-
http://www.ihr.com.au/chalker.html
William died in 1823, and in 1828 at the time of the Census, his partner
Elizabeth and their children were living at Ray Hill, Bringelly in New South
Wales.
Yes, you are correct Elizabeth, the history of the settlers on the
Coromandel who settled in Ebenezer is a wonderful story and really
Carolyn,
Here is everything you wanted to know about William Charker and Elizabeth Sheckle (Sheckel):-
http://www.ihr.com.au/chalker.html
Regards,
Janice
From: "Bears Over There"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: Assistance required
> Could SKS do a look up for me?
> I am after the convict number for the following
> (from memory it would be 08/. or 02/...
> Elizabeth Sheckle (Sheckel) who arrived Port
> Jackson 16/11/1808
> An
Good Morning,
I am seeking information about Ellen BRIEN (convict) and John MOORE (free)
who married in 1854 and who had a son James Moore born in 1854.
I am seeking more knowledge about James MOORE as that was my great
grandfather's name and I cannot locate him, and was wondering if this is my
James Moore.
Kind regards,
Ann Belmont
Hello Coralie and Tony,
Have you located the death certificates for John and Emma Perkins (nee
Howlett)? They may reveal where they both originated from.
There is a death index for an Emma PERKINS registered in Tasmania.
Date of death 12th November 1869, she was aged 73 at the time of her
death. The Ref. No. is 8098.
There are two Tasmanian death indexes for a John PERKINS that may be
of interest.
1. Died 27th June 1873, aged 76. Ref. No. 2092.
2. Died 3rd. December 1887, aged 81 years. Ref. No. 447.
Could SKS do a look up for me?
I am after the convict number for the following
(from memory it would be 08/. or 02/...
Elizabeth Sheckle (Sheckel) who arrived Port
Jackson 16/11/1808
And
William Charker (Chalker) who arrived Sydney Cove
13/6/1802
If you have any other info on these two it would
be appreciated.
Hoping SKS can help me.
Regards
Carolyn
Hi Carolyn,
William CHARKER (OR CHALKER) arrived as a Convict per 'Coromandel', Port
Jackson June 13, 1802: Elizabeth SHACKLE (OR SCHECKLE) arrived as a
Convict per 'Speke 1' arrived Port Jackson Nov 16, 1808.
William died Feb 2, 1823 at Penrith (aged 48), and Elizabeth died
October 1, 1842 also at Penrith (aged 59).
There is quite a bit about their son Joseph Henry CHALKER (b Aug 26,
1813 at Penrith, NSW), and also some info on William & Elizabeth at:
http://www.cooma.nsw.gov.au/monaropioneers/pioneer
Hello
I've just discovered that my GG G'father GEORGE HARWOOD was a convict at
Campbelltown in Tasmania between January and March of 1837 and that he
arrived here aboard the Asia 2. If anyone can help me with any further
information about him it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Ian in hot Nth Q'land
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>
> Hi listers,
> Sincere thanks to all who replied to my query about Joseph Allison.
> Thanks to Lesley Uebel, MargM, Val & others who responded I now know
> That the Joseph Allison I am interested in did arrive on the John
> Barry
> (5) in 1839.The date and place of his trial, 1838 Edinburgh provided
tie
> In with the information that I already had.
> Val, you say that you have information on a Joseph Allison in
> Waverley cemetery. If the information you have refers to this Joseph
> Allison I wo
Janice wrote at length about the Coromandal and the Perseus concluding "It
was not until Bert Howard, whose wife's ancestors the Halls had arrived
on the Coromandel, had any one attempted to try and separate the convicts,
those who were embarked on the Coromandel and those who arrived on the
Perseus.". What she did not say was besides the convicts the Coromandel
carried 16 free settlers who had between them 20 children. There were 7
couples and 2 single men. These families settled in the Hawkesbury and b
Hi Caroline
I had a similar problem in Manchester but I found 3 pages of the local paper
were dedicated to the trial including a brother I did not know existed.
The local County Council supplied these for me from their library.
regards
Derek
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From: "Caroline Coleman"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: U.K. Prisons
> I have a descendant that was tried in the
> Leicester Assize & General Gaol Deliv
Good afternoon Lists,
I think I will be able to shed a little light on why you will find in many
circumstances, where the Perseus and Coromandel are lumped together. Here is
their history:-
The Colony was in dire straights for supplies and for convicts, who were
young, strong, farmers and tradesmen and not sickly, elderly town raised
convicts. Governor King wrote to the authorities in the U.K. informating
them of the current situation in the colony.
Two ships were to be made ready for the long voya
Hello Carolyn,
A William Charker arrived on the ship Persues/Coramander in 1802.
There are two dates of arrival given, 13th June 1802 and 4th August
1802. I don't know why this is the case or why two ships are
mentioned. It could be that one ship arrived on 13th June and for
some reason the convicts were transferred to another ship that arrived
in Port Jackson on 4th August.
A William Charker received his Certificate of Pardon on 7/8/1808. I
located this information on the NSW State Records site at
htt
Hello again Carolyn,
I've located your Elizabeth Sheckle arriving on the ship Speke on 15th
November 1808. She is recorded as Elizabeth SHACKLE.
Also, I apologise for the incorrect spelling of the Coramandel, the
reference to William Charker was difficult to read.
Best wishes,
Terri.
Hello Stewart,
A convict by the name of Joseph Allison was transported on the ship
John Barry and arrived in NSW on 22/3/1839. The John Barry, a
barque/ship of 524 tons, departed Sheerness on 17/11/1838 under the
command of John Robson with 320 prisoners/convict boys on board.
Joseph Allison per the John Barry is mentioned on the Society of
Australian Genealogist's website as receiving his ticket of leave in
1846. You are able to order his ticket of leave from the State
Records Office of NSW.
Society o
Hi Fay,
According to "The Women of Botany Bay", Portia Robinson, pub Penguin
Books, 1988, 1993, Elizabeth Jones of the "Neptune" was hanged in Sydney
(1799/1800) as an accomplice to the murder of Samuel Clode, a
Missionary. There is quite a bit on her on pp198, and ref to
correspondence & court proceedings on pp348/349. She was married to
Thomas Jones and settled at the Eastern Farms when they received a
parcel of land in 1794, they had 2 colonial born daughters with them at
the time. There are several ot