It turns out Pherrel is Farrell, and once I started searching on "Farrell
LITTLETON," I picked up some information that will at least be a consolation to
those with the LITTLETON NPE.
It turns out, Farrell LITTLETON was Overseer to John Augustine WASHINGTON,
brother of Pres. George WASHINGTON. Now, an overseer can be seen as a
plantation manager, but in the South, that mainly meant he was the slave
manager. Still, he was working for some mighty high-powered land owners,
although none of them would hav
Hello List,
We have first results returned for #132113, the descendant of Charles CARRICO of
Sullivan Co., IN. Actually, nearly all of his results have returned (viz.,
Markers 1-25 and Markers 38-67), the only panel remaining is the one that
usually seems to be last, Markers 26-37 (expected 12/19).
His results came as an unpleasant surprise, because he is not Haplogroup J2a1b,
as are the tested descendants of Peter CARRICO, 1674 immigrant to Maryland. He
is Haplogroup R1b1b2:
http://dgmweb.net/genealog
Well, just wondered if it was like mixing up 2 tubes of blood in the lab and the results for both
individuals were incorrect of the mix-up. Hmmm, but I guess if we get notice of some weird line
connecting closely to our Carrico's, that might be a heads up that a mix-up occurred?
Meanwhile, I'm sure you're disappointed, but it seems you're going about it right. Just because this
6th generation (per your website) doesn't match, doesn't mean that another descendant of Charles
won't match.
I can't imagine
How odd. I posted the message backquoted below at 8:20 pm, before the message I
posted at 8:48 pm. The latter/later message arrived on the list at 8:49 pm, but
the earlier message didn't arrive until 12:33 am. Sorry that the messages
didn't make sense arriving in that order.
Diana
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:20 PM
> To: carrico-dna@rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARRICO-DNA] First Results for
Some of you may recall that #132113, the descendant of Charles CARRICO of
Sullivan Co., IN, apparently has an NPE in his lineage because he doesn't match
the CARRICOs who presumably descend from Peter CARRICO I. You may also recall
that he does have a significant match (62/67) with one other person: a
LITTLETON (#89853).
I have now been in contact with the wife of the LITTLETON, and she has kindly
shared his lineage with me, so I have added it to the results page:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/
Hello List,
We have a new member (#136280), with his first and final results (12 markers)
returned. He is an unsual subject in that his line experienced a deliberate
(and documented) surname change from CARRICO to BLAINE. He is a paper
descendant of Peter I's son, Abel I, and his test results confirm that he is,
indeed, a genetic CARRICO:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results-HgJ2.shtml#J2a1b
Diana
When the kits are sent out, the vials are already labeled with the kit number,
so it's not possible to "mix up" vials. You'd have to deliberately peel off the
(very stuck tight) labels and deliberately switch them. FTDNA has gone to
considerable lengths to be certain there are no mix-ups.
Our CARRICOs happen to be extremely distinctive genetically. Whenever someone
is tested, we will know it immediately an unequivocally whether someone is or is
not a match, as in this case.
Getting an NPE is the begin
Oops. I misspoke when I said I found no LITTLETONs in Indiana. I meant I found
no LITTLETONs in *Sullivan County,* Indiana, not in all the censuses from 1820
to 1930.
Diana
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana
> Gale Matthiesen
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:40 AM
> To: CARRICO-DNA@rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CARRICO-DNA] Final Results for #132113,R1b1b2
> desc/o Charles CARRICO of Sullivan Co IN
>
>
Well, here we go again. I sent this message at 3:32 PM on Monday, and it didn't
arrive on the list until 2:53 AM on Tuesday *after* my own reply to it. I sent
the reply at 4:19 PM on Monday, and it arrived at 10:30 PM on Monday, four and a
half ours before the message to which it was a reply!
So, I'm sorry that the reply arriving first means it couldn't have made sense.
If the chatter on LISTOWNERS-L is any indication, other admins are experiencing
the same, including even longer delays between the time
Hello Linda,
I'm afraid it's very unlikely that there was a mix-up. The most immediate thing
we could do is retest him or test his father or a brother. However, given that
his result is probably not a mix-up, it makes more sense to spend the money
testing cousins. If any of them match him, we know his result was not a
mistake. If none of them do, then we can look at testing someone who is closer
to him or retesting him.
I didn't spend any time looking into this LITTLETON because he may turn out not
to
Oh, now I've been asked the question on the list. Well, you have the answer to
your question already, so I'll respond to your statement.
If you trace your ancestry through Charles, your being a biological CARRICO is
now in question, as is mine. Everything now depends on where (in which
generation) this mutation took place. This test subject's line is:
Charles CARRICO & Martha REASON
_Reason CARRICO & Elizabeth ENGLE
__William G. CARRICO & Susan SMITH
___George Harrison CARRICO & Rachel COX
____William
Hello List,
We have the final results returned for #132113, the descendant of Charles
CARRICO of Sullivan Co., IN, the one who has an NPE in his lineage:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results-HgR1b.shtml
He has a 62/67 march with a LITTLETON, so it appears he may really be a
LITTLETON. I don't have this LITTLETON's lineage, yet, so we don't know whether
these specific families crossed paths or not. I haven't found any LITTLETONs in
Indiana, so sadly it's looking like this NPE may ha
Someone has asked me offlist what "NPE" means. My apologies. I usually define
it the first time I use it in a message. It means "non-paternal event," which
is either an adoption or illicit paternity (adultery on the part of a wife) in
the person's patrilineal line. I discuss the NPEs that I've found in my
projects and the degree to which they've been resolved on this page:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/NPE_Resolutions.shtml
Again, sorry,
Diana
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carrico-dna-bounc
Diana,
Is it possible that there is a mix-up with the results?
You're website mentions that the DNA matches with a Littleton in the FTDNA database whose results
aren't yet complete either.
The results to the Littleton DNA at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/littleton.project/ isn't
public, but there is some info. on the alternative site which doesn't look like it's been updated
since last October.
There is another Littleton there, last on the list kit # 89853 who seems a close match with the
desc
I am offering to pay half the cost of a 12-marker test for one of each of the
four cousins mentioned below as being in need of testing. Test subject must be
a male surnamed CARRICO and must share his genealogy in sufficient detail that
I'm convinced he is one of these cousins. If you qualify and are interested,
please contact me privately, offlist.
Basically, I'm offering to chip in $50 toward the price of a test. If you have
any thoughts of taking your testing to the full 67 markers, this is the time t
Hello,
I would like to ask a question. What does "NPE" mean? I too trace my
lineage through Charles.
Jeanne Murphey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: [CARRICO-DNA] First Results for #132113,desc/o Chas CARRICO of
Sullivan Co IN
> Hello List,
>
> We have first results returned for #132113, the descendant of Charles
> CARRICO of
> Sullivan Co., IN. Actually, nearly all of
Just a reminder that the Holiday Discounts expire at midnight tomorrow. If you
want to take advantage of them, please do so today -- not 11 pm tomorrow!
Diana
It just dawned on me that Pherrel/Pherril must be a phonetic misspelling of the
English given name Farrell. This would be in keeping with the fact that
LITTLETON is an English surname.
Diana
I recently sent out a batch of messages and discovered that the smallest in
size was sent first, instead of the order that they were written. Maybe
it's the same ... I don't even pretend to understand it.
Kay--
~*~*~*~
-----Original Message-----
From: carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com
[mailto:carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:22 AM
To: carrico-dna@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARRICO-DNA] Charles CARRICO s/o Pherell LITTLETON?
Well, here
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. Member #86809 has already tested his 67 markers.
The Kittler test was an additional test, to determine the order of markers 385a
and 385b. What I'm recommending is that no other descendants of Peter CARRICO
need to take the additional Kittler test. That doesn't mean I'm recommending no
one else test their 67 STR markers. Just the opposite. I wish every male
CARRICO would get tested to 67 markers.
Diana
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carrico-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com
Hello List,
The CARRICO project received an anonymous donation of $100 on June 19th. I
want to express my great appreciation to the donor, with my pledge that the
money will be used wisely to further the aims of the project.
I used money from the General Fund to bring in the CARACO of Turkish origin, and
I will continue to empasize using the money for bringing in others with known
Old World origins.
Again, thank you!
Diana
Hello List,
Member #86809, one of the descendants of Peter CARRICO, the 1674 immigrant to
Maryland, has undergone a Kittler test to determine the actual order of the
alleles at marker 385a-385b.
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results.shtml#J2a1b
Standard testing does not reveal the order of this pair of alleles; and, by
convention, they are reported "low-high." A Kittler test will determine the
order of these alleles, and it turns out they actually are "low-high" (i.e.,
12-17, not
Hello List,
We have a new member, #94500, an American CARACO whose great-grandfather, Albert
CARACO, was born in Bursa/Brusa, Turkey:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results.shtml#New
These CARACOs are Sephardic Jews. Their surname is mentioned in an article
about Brusa at the Jewish Encyclopedia web site:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1539&letter=B
There is a Rabbi Avraham CARACO who was the first Sephardic rabbi in Los
Angeles, but it is not known whether he's r
Bonnie Schrack is the administrator of the Haplogroup J project at FTDNA. She
has given me blanket permission to forward messages from her, and I thought this
one would interest you.
Diana
> -----Original Message-----
> From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bonnie Schrack
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: Genealogy-DNA-L@rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [DNA] modal values for markers 38-67 for haplogroup J2
>
> > Diana wrote:
> >
> > One question my members are asking me is the pr
Hello List,
We now have all the "advanced" STR test results from FTDNA returned for #86809,
the descendant of Peter CARRICO through his son, Abel CARRICO:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results.shtml#J2a1b-Advanced
These are the STR markers that FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) added to their offerings
when they purchased the German company, DNA-FingerPrint (DNA-FP). At present,
only some of these markers can be uploaded to Ysearch, but FTDNA will likely
make all of these markers uploadable ev