Jim,
If you only had a plot with just the lengths, you can't enter it into
Deed Mapper. However, in your examples, you provided the lengths and
their directions, so you DO know the order. If you had a scaled drawing
without angles but "North" (or any other direction) was shown, you
should be able to enter the description into Deed Mapper.
You could record the property description either "clockwise" or
"counterclockwise" and as long as it describes a closed area ("closes")
and doesn't cross itself, you k
To those who have been working with South Carolina plat maps. Thanks
for your replies. It is nice to know that I am not alone with this
problem.
Margaret and Lee,
Thanks for your comments.
Jan,
The whole point of my example is to show that just because you know the
length and direction of all three lines, you DON'T know the order. Each
example has the same lines but a different order and if you enter the
two examples into Deed Mapper you'll see that you don't get the same
plot.
No, I don't have a co
Marilyn,
Thanks for the reference. I'll see if I can find it through
interlibrary loan or on my next trip to South Carolina.
Jim Barrett
Bedford, TX
parino@flash.net
Barrett Surname DNA Project
Powell Surname DNA Project
-----Original Message-----
From: Symonds [mailto:sysite@swbell.net]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:31 PM
To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [DMU] SC survey orientation
A helpful book on this subject is Pett-Conklin, Linda Marie, Cadastral
Suveying in Colonial South Car
Mr. Barrett,
You are of course correct in saying that getting a new plat map would not
correct the orientation problem. I understood you to say that the maps
you are using with DeedMapper were not always oriented as up being north,
and that's why I said what I did.
I'm working just across the river in Elbert & Hart Co. GA, and those
don't have a north arrow either. I have seen one on the occasional grant
plat. Still, the direction of the lines will in fact tell you the
orientation although knowing wher
Mr. Clark,
I believe what I said was that the plat maps, as recorded in the State
of South Carolina plat books, do not indicate north on the individual
plats, and that north was not always up on these plats. Obtaining
another copy of the plat maps from the state would not correct this.
Jim Barrett
Bedford, TX
parino@flash.net
Barrett Surname DNA Project
Powell Surname DNA Project
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From: dadster3@juno.com [mailto:dadster3@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:42 AM
To: D
Jim,
Thanks for the tip! This helped.
Jim Barrett
Bedford, TX
parino@flash.net
Barrett Surname DNA Project
Powell Surname DNA Project
-----Original Message-----
From: James F McConnell [mailto:jfmdem@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:22 AM
To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [DMU] How to enter a plot
I'm surprised at the difficulty of establishing orientation of plats. In
my work with South Carolina plats I had no sense of an orientation
problem even though most plats don't pr
I am working with plat maps for Greenville Co., SC. The plat maps shows
the lengths of the sides of a piece of property and the direction of the
side, but the plat does not show which way is north. The top of the map
is not north. When I am entering the description of the property should
I go clockwise or counter clockwise.
Please check out the following two samples:
1.
!
! Abstracting info.
! Metes and bounds. "Beginning at..."
Pt
Ln W; 90C;
Pt
Ln N30E; 90C;
Pt
Ln S30E; 90C;
End
2.
Just checking to be sure I'm subbed to the list.
Linda
homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas
MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/
TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2
Jim,
Your two examples appear unambiguous to me but they describe two
different parcels. You should be able to describe either by going
clockwise or counter clockwise -- it does not matter. You can describe
the first parcel by "walking" the perimeter in a counterclockwise
manner:
Pt
Ln N30W; 90C;
Pt
Ln S30W; 90C;
Pt
Ln E; 90C;
Pt
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Barrett [mailto:parino@flash.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:58 PM
To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [DMU] How to ente
I can't tell you what you are doing wrong but I would suggest you go to
table view and see what is displayed. I have a feeling you will find items
1 through 9 displayed. If this is true then delete items 1,3,4 6 7,8 and
you will have the correct table view display.
You can delete an item by highlighting the item in table view to be
deleted then click edit>> click delete.
Dale
At 11:09 AM 10/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>I am a brand new user and just trying to enter my first deeds. For so
I'm surprised at the difficulty of establishing orientation of plats. In
my work with South Carolina plats I had no sense of an orientation
problem even though most plats don't provide the north direction and even
then you don't know if it was magnetic or true north. It was normal
practice for the DS to label the metes and bounds of a line from left to
right even when standing upside down relative to the page. If you simply
pick a corner to the left of a label in the direction of writing (say
N45E, 25C) and
Hello all,
I am a brand new user and just trying to enter my first deeds. For some reason, they are not entering in order of 1, 2, 3 etc. My first one is item 2, the second is item 5, and the third one is item 9. What am I doing wrong? Can you tell me how to correct this?
Thanks,
Nancy in Texas
Marie Robinson wrote:
>This may be a hard one to explain--along the bottom of the window border,
>there are some fields or boxes for information from some of the program
>fields. For instance, for me, on the left, it says:
>
>For Help, press F1
>next box the date of the highlighted tract shows
>next box is empty
>next box shows the information from the To field
>next box is the area of the tract (sq ft)
>next one empty
>next shows NUM
>
>What field would show up in the second box? I would really like to h
This may be a hard one to explain--along the bottom of the window border,
there are some fields or boxes for information from some of the program
fields. For instance, for me, on the left, it says:
For Help, press F1
next box the date of the highlighted tract shows
next box is empty
next box shows the information from the To field
next box is the area of the tract (sq ft)
next one empty
next shows NUM
What field would show up in the second box? I would really like to have the
"Typ" or "Id" field informa
Jim,
My experience with plats in Laurens Co., SC (650 plats) is that a
directional arrow (N-S) on the plat is seldom shown. As a result it
is impossible to tell the orientation of the plat from the plat
description. What occasionally works is to locate an adjacent plat
(or plats) whose orientations is known and use it to guide you.
Lee Adair*************************************************
W. Lee Adair, Jr, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
University
new subscriber to the list. I would love to plat several deeds using deed
mapper, however I'm a mac user and do not own any pc emulation software.
is anyone on-list willing to help out any? are there *any* future plans to
cross platform? I know I asked the same question of the software co about
2-3 years ago... [answer: no]
thanks.
kirby in NC
kirbz@northstate.net
It sounds like most SC surveyors did not bother to indicate a north
orientation on their plats. I've done about 1200 plats in the Orangeburgh
District and very, very few have north indicated. I have wondered though,
if this is due to the surveyors leaving off the necessary notation or mark
or was this something omitted by the clerks who made copies of the plats
that SC researchers get to look at. I have not looked at very many original
plats to find out....has anyone else working with SC plats seen many
Mr. Barrett,
You said that on your map up was not north.
All the lines in a plat are given relative to north simply because the
compass is magnetic. Most maps are oriented so that up is north, and I
think DeedMapper makes this assumption. If your map isn't oriented
properly, then you need to get a new map or turn the one you have so that
up is north.
Barry Clark
Fredericksburg, VA
Yes, that's exactly what Bill said. It's the From field. And I finally did
notice that it changes depending on the view. Thank you both. I must have
been in Never Never Land when I last tried to monkey around with this field
a few months ago--it's showing up just fine now if I put something in the
From field. The tracts I map are all from the Commonwealth of Pa. or the
Land Office so I never put anything in that field. I guess I can't control
everything!
Thanks everyone,
Marie.
>-----Original Messag
A helpful book on this subject is Pett-Conklin, Linda Marie, Cadastral
Suveying in Colonial South Carolina: A Historical Georgraphy. Louisiana
State University, PHD 1986. Ann Arbor, MI: University Microfilms
International, c 1987.
I obtained a copy through interlibrary loan. There is a discussion of
compass orientations on plats. She says there were no official policies
in SC - so the surveyor had great control. There is a section on compass
orientations used by the surveyors. She says that in the ea