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1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
Frank, besides names, I have more confidence in matching on y-search. I have a close match of 64/67 and the name is different. To me names are new DNA is older and more reliable. I am sure if you inquire and petition for help in your name project you will get an associate in our R1b1c7 that will give you the information that will help you. Good luck. Thomas Tucker On 4/27/08, frank mcgonigal wrote: > Thanks Thomas,I'm glad I'm not the only one confused with this. > > It's great t
2. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DYF385 results [1]
Thank you. I appreciate the explanation that you have provided. Ken Nordtvedt wrote: Sufficient M222+ have tested positive for rs34276300, there was no need for you to do so. You should be positive (derived) as well. The Tree has rs34276300 mutation upstream of M222 mutation. The DYF385b mutation up to 11 seems to have occured even further upstream from rs34276300, although we normally don't put such mutations in the category of uniqueness of occurence in the tree as we do
3. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
Crinan abbot of Dunkeld would be an obivous candidate for membership of the ruling Cenil nGabrain sept (ignoring the Ui Neill church connections). With the new SNPs are there any new results showing R1b1c9's in East Ulster?> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:42:58 -0400> From: dunbardna@gmail.com> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72> > If you look at the Dunbar Project you'll see that our Crinan descendant has> recently tested R1b1c9 positive. If the Irwin Proje
4. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
I think this link may get you a free pdf of the YCC paper I spoke about in the previous posting: http://www.genome.org/cgi/reprint/gr.7172008v1?ijkey=71c44f6d9fed6aa10b3b78c097b9b2019d434641 David Ewing
5. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
In a message dated 4/4/2008 8:37:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, pconroy63@gmail.com writes: The only well documented continental migration to Ireland was that of the Belgic tribe Menapii, to the Wexford area - extreme South East of the country - and the founding of their principal town Menapia, which later became Wexford town. The Belgae of course may have been speaking a Celtic or Germanic dialect - the latter according to Oppenheimer. It is interesting in light of Oppenheimer's theory of the su
6. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DYF385 results [1]
Sufficient M222+ have tested positive for rs34276300, there was no need for you to do so. You should be positive (derived) as well. The Tree has rs34276300 mutation upstream of M222 mutation. The DYF385b mutation up to 11 seems to have occured even further upstream from rs34276300, although we normally don't put such mutations in the category of uniqueness of occurence in the tree as we do the SNPs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie" To: "R1b1c7 list"
7. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
Sure, Mitch. But you ain't seen nothing yet. A new Y Chromosome Consortium tree has just been published, updating the one we have been using since 2002 and incorporating a number of new SNPs, which required some restructuring and extensive re-naming of the old tree. What was R1b1c7 on the old tree is R1b1b2e on the new tree. In a situation analogous to the one we run into when counties are subdivided, we have found ourselves living in a new county even though we haven't moved. For us, nothing has really ch
8. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Crinan abbot of Dunkeld question [1]
Crinan abbot of Dunkeld would be an obivous candidate for membership of the ruling Cenil nGabrain sept (ignoring the Ui Neill church connections). With the new SNPs are there any new results showing R1b1c9's in East Ulster?> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:42:58 -0400> From: dunbardna@gmail.com> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72> > If you look at the Dunbar Project you'll see that our Crinan descendant has> recently tested R1b1c9 positive. If the Irwin Proje
9. [DNA-R1B1C7] Y-STR DNA-FP Panel 5 Palindromic Pack [1]
Results are in for my cousin Ross Ferguson who is R1b1c7. The main reason for the test was to get a better handle of DYS464a,b,c,d which at 15-15-16-16 appeared out of whack when compared with myself and one other cousin. The result for the more accurate test DYS464X confirmed our suspicion that DYS464a,b,c,d is in fact 15-16-16-17. The results for the pack as whole are: DYF371X 10c-12t-13c-14c DYF385 10-11 DYF397 11-14-15-15 DYF399X 20t-25c-28.1t DYF401 15-17 DYF408 188-188-8-15 DYF411 11-11 DYS413 21-23
10. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
>This is going to cause no end of confusion Even this mailing list's name will be obsolete!
11. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
In a message dated 4/4/2008 1:42:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, pconroy63@gmail.com writes: Other groups like the Laigin or the Erainn, where did the come from? Could have been Armorica (todays Brittany), Gaul, Aquitaine, someplace in Iberia, like Gallicia, or further afield, who knows?? I agree with that. Who knows where they did come from? Perhaps under the influence of the Milesian legends, a lot of early British historians tried to connect tribes in the south of Ireland with tribes men
12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Y-STR DNA-FP Panel 5 Palindromic Pack [1]
Is there ever explanations from these labs as to how they get DYS464 so wrong so often? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Ferguson" To: "DNA-R1b1c7" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] Y-STR DNA-FP Panel 5 Palindromic Pack > Results are in for my cousin Ross Ferguson who is R1b1c7. The main > reason for the test was to get a better handle of DYS464a,b,c,d which > at 15-15-16-16 appeared out of whack when compared wi
13. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
If you look at the Dunbar Project you'll see that our Crinan descendant has recently tested R1b1c9 positive. If the Irwin Project were to SNP test their Bonshaw descendant we'd probably find the same haplogroup designation. Bonshaw's markers don't match with the Niall Modal either. So, one of two things have occurred. Either the brothers, Crinan & Eryvine, descend from another ancestor other than Niall or the genetic genealogy community has misnamed the R1b1c7 haplogroup. More than likely, it's the for
14. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
Ok Frank, Best in your research. On 4/28/08, frank mcgonigal wrote: > Thomas > I have been watching the Y DNA matches,I get the messages from Family Tree > DNA about various matches,but nothing ever seems to be close enough to help. > As I said,I need some living McGonigals who are willing to have their Y DNA > done,but the ones that I have contacted, and would probably be the most > helpful, don't seem to want to spend the money on this. > My McGonigal info is posted all over the I
15. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
Hi All, Can someone explain to this rookie what this new haplogroup designation means...R1b1b2e-M222(R1b1c7)? Are we no longer r1b1c7? Does this new group pinpoint a new location or area of focus? Is it official? What changes besides the numbers and letters? Thanks, Mitch
16. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
Call the mailing list name "historical". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Ferguson" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? > >This is going to cause no end of confusion > > Even this mailing list's name will be obsolete! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subj
17. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
Thanks Thomas,I'm glad I'm not the only one confused with this. It's great to know that my Y DNA matches Niall of the Nine Hostages,but I'm more concerned with finding McGONIGALS and variant spellings in the present day that I'm related to,in the hope that they have a paper trail that I can use. The history 'lessons' are great,and I admire and thank the people who take the time to do the research and pass it on to us. My main purpose in joining this group was to find people with close matching Y DNA
18. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
David, You need access to that journal to view the PDF. A better link to the supplementary material PDF is this: http://www.genome.org/cgi/data/gr.7172008/DC1/1 Then go to page 32, where the R lineage is displayed. Cheers, Paul On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:48 AM, David Ewing wrote: > I think this link may get you a free pdf of the YCC paper I spoke about in > the previous posting: > > http://www.genome.org/cgi/reprint/gr.7172008v1?ijkey=71c44f6d9fed6aa10b3b78c097b9b2019d434641 > >
19. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
John, I agree with what you're saying, and think that map site is great. Yes there are a number of tribes who were dispersed across Britain and Ireland. However, I was specifically referring to immigrants from continental Europe, where the point of origin is definitely known - to me the only group that fits the bill are the Menapii (Latin name) - later called Manaig (Irish name). Other groups like the Laigin or the Erainn, where did the come from? Could have been Armorica (todays Brittany), Gaul, Aquitai
20. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
I don't really understand all the ins and outs of the technical side of R1b1c7 Y DNA etc.,but this posting leaves me completely at a loss. I know it wasn't supposed to come thru as a blob as it did,but couldn't it have been formatted differently so that we who are technically and historically challenged could understand it better. Same with the previous one .. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Morgan" To:
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
In a message dated 4/3/2008 11:27:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, pconroy63@gmail.com writes: A new Y Chromosome Consortium tree has just been published, updating the > one > we have been using since 2002 and incorporating a number of new SNPs, > which > required some restructuring and extensive re-naming of the old tree. What > was R1b1c7 on the old tree is R1b1b2e on the new tree. In a situation > analogous to the one we run into when counties are subdivided, we have I don't really see anyt
22. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1b2e?? [1]
John, Remember that terms like Celtic and Germanic are cultural. The evolution of the Germanic language is problematic - I remember reading years ago, using some modeling technique, that most likely the area we know as Germany today was inhabited by Balto-Slavic speakers, who were conquered from the South by Celtic speakers - this is why the language has a Balto-Slavic substratum, with much of the vocab being similar to Celtic. BTW, the Germans call themselves "Deutsche", which itself is derived from the
23. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 [1]
I am with you Frank. I know we are related to Nial..are we not ? On 4/27/08, frank mcgonigal wrote: > I don't really understand all the ins and outs of the technical side of > R1b1c7 Y DNA etc.,but this posting leaves me completely at a loss. > I know it wasn't supposed to come thru as a blob as it did,but couldn't it > have been formatted differently so that we who are technically and > historically challenged could understand it better. > Same with the previous one .. > Frank McGo
24. [DNA-R1B1C7] New SNP Tree [1]
I have several project members who want to be tested for the 'U' series, but FTDNA so far has offered it only to those previously SNP tested and found to be R1b1c*. My members were only "predicted" R1b1c.The other day I asked FTDNA, since they can test for "A" (R1b1c1-8) and they can test for "B" (9 and 10), why is it so difficult to combine the two and test for "AB?" Ashley replied that they hope to announce the combined test within a few weeks--they were waiting for a new paper to be published. I
25. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Crinan abbot of Dunkeld question [1]
The kings of the Scoti or even the Scoti themselves are said to be Dalraidains from Ireland; circa 5th century. They where divided into three kindreds (cenel): Gabrain who the MacAlpin kings of early medieval Scoti'land claim to descend from; another was Cenel Lorn said to have travelled up the Great Glenn became Kings of Moray (MacBeth, etc..) and the other was Cenel Aenghus who didn't go anywhere. Duncan son of Crinan would represent a break in the MacAlpin li
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