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1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] On Behalf of Something like ethnic specifics [1]
David, I agreed wholeheartedly with your pointing out the confusion of ethnicity with R1b1c7, and I think this points out that the current discussion may have moved outside the bounds of this list unintentionally, since it seems we are speaking more about a possible ethnic group. It also brings up the general issue of how murky it is to try to define ethnic groups in the first place. However, in the end I do think you support my contention that whether we are talking about R1b1c7 or a particular supposed
2. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145 / Ewing comment [1]
DAVID EWING WROTE: "It is hard for me to understand why this conversation continues. Strictly speaking, membership in R1b1c7 conveys zero information about ethnicity and zero information about any observable phenotype--except perhaps some fluke in spermatogenesis that I am not aware of. A similar, though perhaps marginally less quantitatively ludicrous mistake is made at "family" reunions, like the biennial gathering of Clan Ewing, where a bunch of 7th cousins twice removed are going around looking fo
3. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Charles Ferguson [1]
Alan, Yes, take a look at this map and click any icon for more detail http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colin/Ferguson/DNA/UK.htm Colin
4. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Charles Ferguson [1]
Dan, Do you know any living males descended from Charles FERGUSON? In the context of the FERGUS(S)ON DNA Project I'd like to know more about him. If you could provide some particulars offlist I'd be most grateful. Cheers, Colin Ferguson http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colin/Ferguson/DNA/
5. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145 / Ewing comment [1]
I don't think the goals are mutually exclusive. Yes, migratory patterns are most interesting and perhaps the ultimate goal. However, there are many people who do want to and can connect to relatives. Full matches at the 67th level imply a quite recent common ancestor (according to current science anyway). I have already found one on my father's side. And on my mother's paternal side and my husband's side I eagerly await a 67th level match. Remember that Bryan Sykes, whose primary work added immensely to
6. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145 / Ewing comment [1]
Concerning that migration question. I had always though I was Scot, and that the Dunbars where primaraly from Scotland but then I found out that my first Dunbar Ancestors to the States in 1730 sailed or my have come from Northern Ireland some where? So did they start in Ireland or do they have family Scotland? William T. Dunbar **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop0003000000
7. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Charles Ferguson [1]
Colin, thanks. I have just found your Kilkerran pedigree for the Kilkerran I1a. As an aside, I have been researching another branch of the Kilkerran line, known as the Fergusson of Auchensoul. I have tracked them back to the 1400s. A branch of this family settled in Co. Down. It is one of those odd pieces of research I have got caught up in, and have yet to complete. I have been researching the ancestry of Major James Milliken (d.1744), whose great grandmother, was a Fergusson of Auchensoul
8. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] r1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
John, After further review, I went back into google/google books with your most probable suggestion of Lomenech and sure enough someone has uploaded a Lomenech geneaology that pre-dates the Lamineck surname in Germany. http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=pphc&lang=fr&m=N&v=LOMENECH A couple of those names like Michel and Nicholas are prime candidates as they are the right ages for a Michel and Nicholas on the Lamineck/Lameneck side in Germany and do not show a place or date of death. Some of these Lomen
9. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145 / Ewing [1]
Marie Kerr appropriately points out that we do not have to choose between applying Y-DNA studies to genealogy or anthropology--it has applicability to both. But that does not really respond to my comment. What I was trying to point out is that this business of trying to draw "ethnic" and phenotypic conclusions from Y-DNA data alone is based on a misunderstanding of what the Y-DNA evidence can tell us. As Marie points out, close Y-DNA matches on large marker-panels do give evidence about genetic and genealo
10. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] r1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
In a message dated 12/24/2007 8:18:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, stevelominac@hotmail.com writes: I'm looking at that one because of the proximity of the surname Lammerich (Meisenheim) to my own ancestor Johan Jacob Lamineck's Weisweiler/Lauterecken area (about 6 miles) just before he was born in 1705. Lammerich is a very close phonetic approximation to my own. Steve, your own family history is a pretty good example of what is probably NOT Irish Wild Geese R1b1c7. In the LDS IGI the surnam
11. [DNA-R1B1C7] Lamineck / Lominac Correspondence [1]
LAMINECK / LOMINAC Reference the most interesting R1b1c7 Lominac / Lamineck correspondence. Just some more comment to muddy the water further. Others have already written in similiar vein , however here goes nevertheless. The Irish City asnd County known in Gaelic Irish as Luimneach (lim-nuck) morphed through Scandanavian / English influenced versions such as Lymrick, Lymerick, Limmerick into the modern Limerick version. This is an indicator as to how easily names can take on new forms over the C
12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Lamineck / Lominac Correspondence [1]
It is maddening Tony, "The Irish City asnd County known in Gaelic Irish as Luimneach (lim-nuck) morphed through Scandanavian / English influenced versions such as Lymrick, Lymerick, Limmerick into the modern > Limerick version." I have seen the interchangeable N/R of the phonetic equivalent Luimneach/Limmerich, Lameneck/Lammerich and even here in the States, Lomenick/Lomerick. There are more than a few phonetic equivalents in the Isles including the Leamhanach (various spellings) denoting the Lennox,
13. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] r1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
"The Germans are often reasonably intelligent, affluent, and traditionally many of themhave had some interest in ancestry. One would think they would be more active." As one of those "reasonably intelligents" whose ancestor hailed from Germany, I can tell you I have spent literally hundreds of hours over the years trying to track my surname and also as you noted, the Pfalz connection to the Gaels. John has already covered some of the connections of the continental R1b1c7's to Gaeldom but looking through
14. [DNA-R1B1C7] Crow/Crowe/Crowley/Crawley, et. al. [1]
For the Crow/Crowe/Crowley/ Crawley DNA Project, I have just posted new results charts. http://ibssg.org/crowley/ Merry Christmas all. -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~ Blacksheep Ancestors in your Family? 'Blacksheep Genealogy' is a registered California Sole Proprietorship. The International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists is a Social Organization Identified by its members using IBSSG after their signatures. Visit http://ibssg.org/ For The Blacksheep website, Montgomery County, Putnam County, a
15. [DNA-R1B1C7] What's the connection here? [1]
"And when did he come to Scotland? There was so much migration back and forth over the centuries. We have one McLaughlin in our project who was sure her family were Scottish - her grandfather identified with the Scots so much he adopted the Maclachlan spelling. Yet the DNA screams "Donegal." That Burns sample is one of the few from this group who claim a Scottish origin. " Or the other way around? I recalll a message from David Wilson (correct me if I misremember) in which he expressed doubts
16. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] David Wilson's R1b1c7 page [1]
Yes, I abandoned earthlink and set up my own domain. The page you mentioned (which is now exceedingly stale, as I have not maintained it) is now found at www.m222.net/R1b1c7.htm David W. > David - I tried to connect to the old address for your NW Irish page but > got > an error message. > > _http://home.earthlink.net/%7Ewilsondna/DYS392=14%20Summary.htm_ > (http://home.earthlink.net/~wilsondna/DYS392=14%20Summary.htm) > > > Have you moved the page somewhere else? > > > > John > > > > *******************
17. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] r1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
In a message dated 12/28/2007 4:36:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, stevelominac@hotmail.com writes: I have seen of that exact spelling of Lomenech which as I mentioned before is derived from that little Brittany town Locmine (Lochmenech). This town/area has a long association with monks from the British Isles including St. Gildas (born in Scotland, educated in Wales and helped build a monastery in this area o! f Brittany) dating back to at least the 6th century. This surname is still prevale
18. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] What's the connection here? [1]
In a message dated 12/1/2007 2:56:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: John, Unfortunately, the sole Burns R1b1c7 who is 447=24 is almost certainly of Scots ancestry. We can't trace him back across the ocean, but he has a good paper trail back to a David Burns who owned the land on which the White House is situated. George Washington referred to him as "that canny Scot" (George was too gentlemanly to use the 'F' word) when describing his negotiations to purchase the
19. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
The other day someone sent me a website about Newgrange in which it was stated that it was "the oldest roofed structure in Europe." Or something like that. If I recall correctly (I am several thousand miles away from my files) the oldest structures in Ireland and Europe are the Carrowmore complex and some nearby tombs in Sligo. My point is, I don't think Oppenheimer should be dismissed out of hand. Perhaps R1b1c7 did spread from west to east. Surely there were Irish contigents fighting in the European wa
20. [DNA-R1B1C7] We have commonalties. [1]
Gene Ashley a southern born R1B1C7 say's The mere fact you reading this shows we have commonalities I have not figured out why I have such a huge passion for genealogy My curiosity drives me .forward or is it backwards Y-DNA helped me find my living ancestors Y-chromes a Scientific trail of paternal ancestors??dead people don't provide DNA (got a shovel) Paper trails end in burned courthouses .If you are lucky enough to have southern colonial province roots most likely you have two hundred years
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] r1b1c7 on the Continent? [1]
Linda, Good for you! You are right to bring everyone back to historical reality. Sometimes the DNA people forget history. That may have happened to Barra when he said that my closest matches are centered in the Raphoe barony. Even if that is true today, and not just the result of spotty testing, nevertheless my ancestors may have walked there from Innishowen or somewhere else. Cheers, Ed -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Beh
22. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] What's the connection here?-- [1]
In a message dated 12/2/2007 4:20:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: Or the other way around? I recalll a message from David Wilson (correct me if I misremember) in which he expressed doubts that R1b1c7 originated in Ireland rather than Scotland. I see no problem in the idea that R1b1c7 could have originated in Scotland. O'Rahilly seemed convinced the Ui Neill and Connachta came to Ireland fairly late in history, a theory which has been controversial but never p
23. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Lamineck / Lominac Correspondence [1]
More possibilities to muddy the waters on Lominac. I keep running across a movie called "Les Revoltes De Lomanach" (The Rebels of Lomanach) set (apparently) somewhere in France. I can't find much about it except it was set in the Vendee region of France and there is a reference to a le chC"teau de Lomanach on a French site. The Vendee region is between Brittany to the north and Poitou-Charentes to the south. One site translates this as In Lomanach Castle. The Irish tune, Cross an Lomanaigh
24. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Charles Ferguson [1]
Colin , I believe there are some males , but will have to phone my cousin in Fla. to get names . She has spent a lot of $ researching the family . His son John [ born Corsica ] went to Nova Scotia and then came to South Boston . He was a grocer , .He married a McGowan . I have photos of McGowan headstones in Rock Church Cem. , Ballyshannon, but was unable to find the grave of Charles . Still searching . He may be buried at Manor Hamilton , where he lived by 1798 when he resigned from the army . He had 8
25. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145 / Ewing comment [1]
Yes Marie, but perhaps I hit too strongly on the migration aspect rather than name connections. I do believe the main goal of the DNA project at this stage is toward the migration patterns. After that main purpose, if we can connect our ancestral names, we then have taken it to the maximum. I only see the angle of much attention in the on-going discussions of the name aspect may be too early in the research of migrations. Once the pattern of migration has been established then the names will have more
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