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1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
In a message dated 2/16/2008 6:33:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, mkerr.shamrock@comcast.net writes: Hi John, Well, I'd certainly like to see the name Golden as well as McGoldrick in County Mayo. They're variants of a Gaelic name, in a Gaelic-speaking county, so perhaps these names didn't even exist then. My father's parents, James Golden and Annie Golden Golden (yes, the same name) were born in Mayo. They were children in the 1910 census. Can you find (or help me find) them? Unfortunately the
2. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 24 [1]
John, I have tested and confirmed R1b1c7 (M222) but, I'm new to Irish history. I have always wondered about the origin of my surname, LOGAN and had read about O'Rahilly's four separate waves of Celtic invaders: * The Cruithne or Priteni (c. 700 - 500 BC) * The Builg or Irainn (c. 500 BC) * The Lagin , the Domnain
3. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1B1C7 [1]
Correction : the "much lower age" in paragraph 2 should read "much higher age" Sandy Paterson -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Paterson Sent: 20 February 2008 10:01 To: DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1B1C7 Hi David (Wilson) Using a "back-of-a-cigarette-box" type calculation considering only the proportion of modals remaining, I get 1376 years using the 12 marker table you posted, and
4. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
Hi John, Well, I'd certainly like to see the name Golden as well as McGoldrick in County Mayo. They're variants of a Gaelic name, in a Gaelic-speaking county, so perhaps these names didn't even exist then. My father's parents, James Golden and Annie Golden Golden (yes, the same name) were born in Mayo. They were children in the 1910 census. Can you find (or help me find) them? Marie Golden Kerr -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
5. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Ulster Scot or native Irish [1]
Hi Nextdill, of course many Irish assimilated into Ulster Scot and visa versa. I have studied the Plantation at length and it's clear that many did. A few book suggestions below. Consider the situation before the plantation. there had been 50 years of war (amongst Irish septs, invading McDonalds, and finally the English). There was not a church in Ulster that had a roof. You have seen what a few years of war does in various countries today. By destroying the infrastructure, there is little religious or oth
6. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
In a message dated 2/11/2008 4:03:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, Alanmill10@aol.com writes: John I had a look at it, but so far haven't been able to find the Clan Maelchein. If you find the page, can you let me know. Thanks Allan - I can tell you about where to look for it in the manuscript. I think the Cenel Cremthaine genealogies start on p. 161. This section follows the Cenel Conaill pedigrees from p. 151. Prior to that you have the entire group of Cenel Eoghain pedigrees start
7. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
If anyone is interested in this Hare/Hair discussion... I just mounted our Hare family tree with my DNA in Y-Search. My code is GF2KZ. Hope it's useful to somebody. Dick Hare -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard B. Hare Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:57 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA Dear Dan; Thank you for your knowledgeable contribution. You have furnished a lot
8. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1b1c7 [1]
Ken Nordtvedt tells us, "Bottom line: stick to the variance method rather than GD method." I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm not entirely sure what to do with this advice. In statistics, the variance is the square of the standard deviation. The standard deviation is "the root mean square deviation." To calculate this for a list of numbers, you compute the average of all the numbers on the list, subtract this from each of the numbers in turn, square the result, then add all of the squares up, divide by the
9. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1b1c7 [1]
In a message dated 2/19/2008 4:40:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, colin.fergie@gmail.com writes: The distance from the root to the present worked out to be 2040 years. That sounds like a more reasonable estimate. < I further excluded the palindromic markers and in this case the calculation yielded 1461 years. By this I assume you mean all multi-copy markers: 385ab, 464abcd, 459ab, YCAIIab, CDYab? I'd just like to know to see if I can duplicate your results. John **************Ideas
10. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
In a message dated 11/02/2008 21:48:07 GMT Standard Time, Lochlan@aol.com writes: I'm aware of the book. It's hugely expensive though. Not in any libraries near me yet. If you really want a challenge you can go through the original manuscript. _http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lochlan/macfirb.htm_ (http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lochlan/macfirb.htm) John I had a look at it, but so far haven't been able to find the Clan Maelchein. If you find the page, can you let me know. Thanks
11. [DNA-R1B1C7] Seventeenth Century Hearth Money Rolls [1]
Some years ago Edward McLysaght published the Hearth Money Rolls for Co. Sligo in Analecta Hibernica Vol 29. His source was a hand-written copy found at Markree Castle, and he commented that all surviving rolls were copies, contain many errors, and are incomplete. He listed the surviving copies as Antrim, Armagh, Cavan (parishes of Killeshandra, Killdallan, Killenagh, Templeport, and Tomregan), Derry, Donegal, Dublin, Fermanagh, Kildare (only some portions that are included with Dublin), Louth, Monaghan,
12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1b1c7 [1]
I have received a reply from Ken Nordtvedt off-list to my earlier posting about what methodology we should use to estimate the age of R1b1c7. He expressed his intention to join the list and post his reply directly, but if that doesn't appear today, I will post what he sent to me this afternoon or evening. Meanwhile, we should be cautious about "using the Ewings as a control group," because although we are "certain" that the name originated in Strathclyde in the southeastern Lowlands of Scotland, we can't b
13. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
In a message dated 2/9/2008 5:37:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, donmilligan@comcast.net writes: HI JOHN: JUST CHECKING AS TO WHETHER THE LIST IS ACTIVE TODAY? HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY LIST POSTS?? DON M Don, it's still active but not much is going on. John **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)
14. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Conroy" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA > John, > > You're right - Conraghty and Conratha must be one and the same people. > Therefore I need to research a little more... it's possible the date for > the > battle is wrong... > > Cheers, > Paul > > > On Feb 1, 2008 9:21 PM, wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 2/1/2008 9:48:58 A.M. Central Sta
15. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1b1c7 [1]
David Ewing wrote: > Paul Conroy appropriately and correctly points out that there are many > possible scenarios that can explain a disconnect between modern Y-DNA > results and the presumptive Y-DNA of the common ancestor for a surname > group. I think that all of these scenarios are technically non-paternal > events--ie, events in which one obtains a surname on some basis other than > inheriting it from his biological father--though I recognize that the common > usage for NPE is as a synonym for illegitim
16. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
In a message dated 2/14/2008 1:29:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, alanmill10@aol.com writes: Where was the surname Melaghlin last used in Co. Meath before it disappeared? There's a little documentation showing the O'Melaghlin surname was still being used circa 1659. In one barony of Westmeath the surname is already spelled McLaughlin; As O'Melaghlin it appears in Roscommon and Kings Co.. But the 1659 returns for Meath (where we might expect to encounter O'Melaghlins) are mostly missing (9 ba
17. [DNA-R1B1C7] New SNP recognized that seems to be associated with M222 [1]
There is no practical way to make use of this knowledge right now, but this may be something that will help in the future as a firmer picture develops. The extensive DNA test offered by the Icelandic firm deCODEme includes hundreds of SNPs from the Y chromosome. A few genetic genealogists have ordered this test, and it is clear from the results that there is a second SNP somehow associated with the M222 SNP that defines R1b1c7. The rs number for M222 is rs20321, and one individual who has the derived state
18. [DNA-R1B1C7] Check out Emigration of Scotch and Scotch-Irish to America [1]
_Emigration of Scotch and Scotch-Irish to America_ (http://www.libraryireland.com/ScotchIrishSeeds/IX.php) THE emigrants to this country from Scotland and Ireland had so many things in common, and they mingled so naturally and constantly wherever they settled, that it is impossible to trace, with any accuracy, the separate streams of emigration. An approximation is all that will be attempted. During the bloody persecutions which prevailed in Scotland many of her best citizens were banished to
19. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
Thanks, John, this gives me a start. I know my grandfather went back to Rathlacken in 1960 to sign over his share in a piece of land to one of his brothers or cousins. Perhaps I can find that transaction and go backward from there. Do you have any idea how I could search such a transaction? Thanks, Marie -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:04 PM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.
20. [DNA-R1B1C7] 1729 to 1750 about twelve thousand annually came from Ulster to America." [1]
The truth should eventualy prevail , please no sugarcoating for southerners..we know our ancestors _Emigration of Scotch and Scotch-Irish to America_ (http://www.libraryireland.com/ScotchIrishSeeds/IX-2.php) EMIGRATION TO AMERICA James Logan, who at this period was president of the Proprietary Council of Pennsylvania and identified with the Quakers, and who was unfriendly to the emigrants arriving from Ireland, states that it is "the common fear that if they [the Scotch-Irish] continue to com
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Age of R1B1C7 [1]
Hi David (Wilson) Using a "back-of-a-cigarette-box" type calculation considering only the proportion of modals remaining, I get 1376 years using the 12 marker table you posted, and 1478 years using the 25 marker table, with an assumed mutation rate of .002 per generation per marker, and 30 year generations. With only one modal left in the 37 marker table, it is clear that the approximation would be pretty poor so I've ignored that. My impression though just eye-scanning the table is that more accurate app
22. [DNA-R1B1C7] Ulster Scot or native Irish [1]
My Dill ancestors were Ulster Scots in County Donegal. I believe that they originally came from Scotland, but I wish I had more evidence about their Scottish origin. I do not know much about the history of the Ulster Plantation, but I suspect that it was not easy to be native Irish in the early days of the Ulster Plantation. Perhaps some of the native Irish felt abandoned after the 'flight of the earls'. 'The Undertakers were under pressure to have Scottish or English tenants, but the origin
23. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Fergussons of Atholl [1]
In a message dated 2/20/2008 11:06:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, colin.fergie@gmail.com writes: Finally, what did you mean by "ccgg at DYS 464"? Cheers, Colin There was a burst of enthusiasm about a year ago for a rare condition at DYS 464 where certain people tested ccgg at DYS 464 instead of the usual chemical pattern (I forget which it was right now). John McEwen listed the group on his R1b web site and theorized that this condition could be a pseudo SNP. Since then others have said
24. [DNA-R1B1C7] How to place Excel sheet on FTDNA website? [1]
Does anyone know the codes to place an Excel sheet on one of the pages of a DNA project website sponsored by FTNDA? I have seen some sites that have done this. I just have no clue how to make it happen. Some of my Gillespies and Macphersons are R1b1c7. Our own arrangement of these test participants, and color highlighting of their significant mutations is only apparent in our Excel sheets. The participant order created by FTDNA on the Y-Results page is not in the order that we desire. And thank you to
25. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA [1]
Where was the surname Melaghlin last used in Co. Meath before it disappeared? The old surname O'Mullegan was also spelt as O'Mellaghan in some parts of Ireland. The similarity between O'Melaghlin and O'Mellaghan is too close. Maybe we should take a closer look at this surname just in case it has?undergone a mutation of its own!??I never really paid enough?attention to the variant O'Mellaghan and more research is needed to?ensure there is no connection. Alan? -----Original Message----- From: Lochlan
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