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1. Re: [R-M222] genetic distance - and the nonpredictive nature of statistics [1]
> It seems they're too restrictive on the number of GDs allowed. > I agree, especially over 37 and 67 markers. I get the impression that it's a work in progress though, and they do have a comments facility, so I'll give that a crack. In my case, I don't pay much attention to YSearch on the grounds that it is an uncontrolled free-for-all type of service. Useful for the occasional search, but at best dodgey in terms of accuracy. Still, the seeming differences in the frequency of M222 amongst the English
2. [R-M222] Haplogroup Diversity-Age estimate for M222 [1]
Haplogroup M222 Mean GD used 5.23 No of markers 37 Mutation rates Supplied by Tim Janzen. I understand they come from John Chandler's site. No of simulations 100 Mean generations taken 43.6 Equivalent in years 1308 Lowest in years 840 Highest in years 1800 The method used was to simulate haplotypes starting with the M222 modal, and kicking out as soon as the mean GD of the simulated haplotypes reached 5.23. There seems to be a small bias in that when sorting according to population siz
3. [R-M222] M222 Topics, Blood of the Irish & alternative Tara [1]
from Tony O'Shaughnessy Reference items in recent Topics BLOOD OF THE IRISH Reference the topic on the " Blood of the Irish" TV programme broadcast by RTE Irish Television. I saw the first Episode (1st of 2) on Monday last, 5th. January. Such a Programme will encourage interest in Irish DNA testing and therefore can only be helpfully good for those already engaged or interested in ancestral DNA research. However, my personal reaction was not one of over-excitement. One of the Trinity College Team (Bra
4. Re: [R-M222] Blood of the Irish [1]
Hi Billy I called RTE a short while ago to try to find out whether it will be available online. The answer is that it won't be online live, but they often make that kind of thing available after the event. The person I spoke to said she'd call me tomorrow to let me know if they have any such plans. If she doesn't call, I'll contact them again. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of countryunplugged@aol.com Sent: 05 Ja
5. Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity [1]
David, > And on the other hand the Irish, who do know where they come from "right > here, sor, for generations", but have neither the need nor the finance to put up samples. For starters, Irish people don't speak in "stage Irish" accents. They certainly wouldn't address someone like you as Sor or Sir either. And finally, contra to your nineteenth century stereotype, the Irish are wealthier than the US - in terms of GDP per capita 2007 - so you need to re-evaluate your prejudices! As an Irishman who gr
6. [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity [1]
Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:16:09 EST From: Lochlan@aol.com John wrote: I went through the entire M222 project plotting GDs against the M222 modal from the McGee Utility. 0 (1) 1 (10) 2 (22) 3 (46) 4 (76) 5 (60) 6 (75) 7 (53) 8 (42) 9 (7) 10 (6) 11 (1) I don't know how others would interpret this but the main cluster of the group appears to come in at between 4-6 GDs against the M222 modal. This group includes several large surname groups (Doherty, Ewing and McL
7. Re: [R-M222] Haplogroup Diversity-Age estimate for M222 [1]
Hi Paul It's the population size by the time the GD of 5.23 is first exceeded. It doesn't affect the simulations but is the product of them. I was curious to see whether there was any correlation between age estimate and end population. There was, but quite small. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conroy Sent: 15 January 2009 16:23 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Haplogroup Diversity-Age es
8. Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity [1]
Hi Bernard I've written software that simulates M222 haplotypes for purposes of testing various ageing methods. One thing I could try is to adapt the software to set off generating haplotypes until the mean GD reaches 5.23 (the mean of the GD's that John posted) then kick out of the loop. I could set it to do this say a 100 times and then get the mean of the number of generations taken. That may give some insight. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1
9. Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222 [1]
10. Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222 [1]
In a message dated 1/6/2009 12:46:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, pconroy63@gmail.com writes: P. 80 Belgic tribes from SE England led by Gann (Commius) and Sengann invaded along the Shannon estuary in W Ireland where Ptolemy located the Gangani. Dela, grandson of Gann, invaded through Ath Cliath Magh Ri *- EDIT: aka Clarinbridge -* in Galway Bay. He made Turoe/Knocknadala in central Galway the core of his kigdom where Ptolemy located Regia e Tera (REGIA E TE[mh]RA, Capital at Turoe) and NAG na TAL
11. Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity [1]
John, You say: > We've had little participation in our McLaughlin DNA project from native Irish. To date I think about 3 of 80 actually live in Ireland. That brings up another point worth mentioning, which is that Ireland has a population of about 4.1 million and Northern Ireland about 1.75 million, so together they have less than 6 million. While this site on the Irish Diaspora - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_diaspora - estimates that the Irish Diaspora population is about 80 million. So if diasp
12. Re: [R-M222] R-M222 Value of 390=24 [1]
Hi; MacLysaght says it's from Fermanagh and Donegal. Cheers, Dick -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CountryUnplugged@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:13 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] R-M222 Value of 390=24 Paul did you happen to come across Dunbar in that Ulster search? In a message dated 1/2/2009 9:20:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: I ran two variat
13. Re: [R-M222] Common markers in M222 [1]
14. Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222 [1]
John, on the subject on Niall of the Nine Hostages modal. Are there families names clustered near this central modal (i.e. DYS values) and others like the Ewings who are clustered at a distance from it? As for Connacht, when was it named for the Connachta? I understand the older versions name is Csiced Ol nEchmacht the land of Fir Ol nEchmacht an was so called until the early historic era (c.5th-7th centuries A.D.). The province change name due I understand due to the rise of Connachta, however when was
15. Re: [R-M222] Common Markers in M222 [1]
Mitch, let me add a ditto to your email. All this switching around is confusing. I probably should order another snip test of some kind but I am not sure. Von Hamrick Winston-Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 8:00 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Common Markers in M222 Hi all, o?= The haplogroup numbers seem to changing rather rapidly these days and I am getting lost in the research. Can someone please answer a few quick questions to bring
16. Re: [R-M222] R-M222 Value of 390=24 [1]
Paul, I'm one of the Ferguson you mention and another is my cousin Ross. We have yet another cousin Bruce who is DYS390=25. Our genealogy is known and from that I can figure that DYS390=24 characterized the haplotype of our most recent common ancestor. I mention this because we are an example of a family wherein due to a recent mutation we find both 24 and 25 for DYS390. Myself and Ross have ancestry tied to county Cavan. The other two Ferguson that you noted trace back to counties Mayo and Leitrim. Cheers
17. Re: [R-M222] Were the Scots Irish [1]
In a message dated 1/11/2009 2:34:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnross@gci.net writes: My question is given Vince Vizachero's (admittedly outdated) map http://www.vizachero.com/images/R1bClades.pdf is there really no evidence of R-M222 between Germany and Scotland? I have a fair amount of German M222 matches in my own spreadsheets. QVDQ9 Brune Germany YZWJ9 Baker Bingen-on the Rhine, Germany WCZUU Lominac Lauterecken, Germany German Project (FTDNA) Willauer Germany German. Proj.(FTDNA)
18. Re: [R-M222] genetic distance - and the nonpredictive nature of statistics [1]
In a message dated 1/12/2009 9:19:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, hld41@bellsouth.net writes: Please be cautious in inferring absolutes in statistical data. It would take hundreds of data points to construct a "good" statistical picture, and the results would have a calculated, quantified measure of fit. Harold, I'm sure you're right about this. We don't have enough data to be sure of anything. We're not even sure of what a lot of the data we do have represents. I tried to get a list of M222
19. Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222 [1]
John, Check this out: http://www.handofhistory.com/photos/displa...bum=1&pos=1 *Celtic Manapi, Morini & Atrebates were driven SW into Belgium, N France & S Britain. The Morini lost Kassel Morinorum to the Manapi who renamed it Kassel Manapiorum. The Atrebates lost Thuroit and established Thouruanna & Ait Regia (Atrecht) near Belgium's upper Door River. Advancing Roman legions forced the Belgae to devise and erect an elaborate Belgic defens
20. Re: [R-M222] M222 "Studies" [1]
In a message dated 1/16/2009 4:52:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: All I can say at the moment is that there was plenty of M222 in the Galway-Mayo-Roscommon area, and that tends to confirm that M222 was present in the Connachta before brothers Niall, Brion, and Fiachra went their separate ways--if there is any truth to that story. That is so difficult to say. Most historians seem to accept Laegaire son of Nial as genuine. O'Rahilly thinks Nial himself was genuine
21. Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity [1]
The distribution is normal-ish except it has to peaks at 4 and 6. GD of 5 seems under represent if the distribution of GD is be a perfect bell curve. Could there be two normal distributions centered on GDs of 4 and 6 (of equal weight)? A normal distribution centered around a GD of 5 I am thinking that is less than a thousand years? So I am confused? I know some of the direction of this 'Mean' GD of 5 has been identifed in previous emails; with certain differences to central M222 modal in DYS values co
22. Re: [R-M222] M222 "Studies" [1]
Bernard, There were forced population movements much later than this. I grew up in Eastern County Laois, in an area that was "planted", aka colonized, FOUR (4) times! Starting with the Leix-Offaly plantation of Queen Mary Tudor in the 1500's and ending with the "Luggacurren evictions" from 1887 to 1909. The latter planters, were mostly Scotch-Irish from Northern Ireland, with an Anglo-Irish minority from elsewhere. This is not to mention incursions of native Irish clans, Vikings and Normans into the area.
23. Re: [R-M222] Origin of M222 [1]
In a message dated 1/10/2009 2:32:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, equisand@equiformratings.com writes: That's my feeling too. In fact I'd go a step further than that. I think Argyll and NE Ireland were the same 'place' for quite a while. I get the strong impression from the BBC program that Scotland only came into existence as what we now call a 'country' some time later. So I think we may be wrong in trying to reason in terms of different countries when thinking about M222 origins. You might want t
24. [R-M222] M222: regional tilt of DYS391=10 [1]
Though the sample sizes are low enough to disclaim certainty (and the methodology not bulletproof), I believe I found an interesting geographic distribution of the DYS391=10 marker in Ireland. I went through ysearch.org and collected the data for individuals that tested positive for the R1b1b2a2e clade or were within 6 markers of the 25 marker Niall modal entry M5UKQ and had a locale listed that could be placed in an Irish county. I eliminated duplicate names within a county where the markers were consist
25. Re: [R-M222] Blood of the Irish [1]
Hi Billy It seems that online viewing is restricted to those geographically situated in Ireland. However, it seems that DVD's will be made available once the live series has been completed. If you are interested, you can enquire by e-mail of librarysales@rte.ie Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of countryunplugged@aol.com Sent: 05 January 2009 19:22 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Blood of the
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