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1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
In a message dated 7/22/2007 5:37:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, Alanmill10@aol.com writes: I recently had a look at my FTDNA webage was amazed to find so many Dochertys and similar variations that are very close to my type. There were other NW Irish Surnames. I guess it is difficult for me to rule out the possibility and that at least some of the R1b1c7 group in Galloway could have originated from NW Ireland. I certainly don't see this group being part of a later wave of Irish settlers
2. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] FTDNA Haplogroups [1]
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ewing" Green type face just > means "tested." It means "tested by FTDNA". My haplotype has been SNP tested out the gazoo and is not green; in the I1a project which I believe is under the control of FTDNA for the color coded haplogroup column at least, I am red "I" --- which is certainly a safe, albeit dumb, prediction. Ken
3. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
I'd like to pose a question for the DNA experts that is probably lurking in the minds of many who are R1b1c7. How and when did the DNA come to Scotland? And why are so many Galloway and other border/lowland families R1b1c7? A secondary but related question might be how old is the DNA? If R1b1c7 originated in Ireland as the experts state, then it must have migrated to Scotland at some point, perhaps gradually over time. When this might have occurred would obviously depend on how old the
4. [DNA-R1B1C7] Advanced Test for Northwest Irish [1]
Although John McEwan is waiting for additional evidence, preliminary tests of 464x for people of possible Leinster ancestry seem to show that a test result of ccgg may well be an indicator. Those of us who are R1b1c7 may not need additional proof, but it would be interesting to determine whether 464x test results can be used for other geographic origins. Have any other of you R1b1c7s been tested for 464x, and if so, would you share your results? I tested as ccgc. Paul Burns
5. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Haplotype results [1]
Terry Strasser said, "...I myself edited the "unknown" haplogroup to R1b1c7 for this cousin on Ysearch. The resulting record was 'R1b1c7 (tested);' the only test(s) this sample had undergone with FTDNA was the 37 markers." I think FtDNA should fix this confusing feature of YSearch. Even though we have no doubt that the person in question is R1b1c7, the fact is that he has not been 'tested' for this, which would require checking to see if he is M222+. I am not so sure it makes a big difference, because the
6. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
We believe that "Ewing" was first used as a surname in the eleventh century or so in the Lowlands of Scotland by some of the people who had descended from the Dumnonii, Brythonic Celts of Alt Clud, later known as Strathclyde. There is some reason to think that some of the first Ewings may have been centered around the southern end of Loch Lomand in the northern part of that region, on the north side of the Firth of Clyde. This area was taken over by Gaels in the eleventh century and came to be known as Len
7. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1B1C7 Project Participation [1]
I joined the R1b1c7 project because my Y-DNA test results seem to fall in the R1b1c7 haplogroup. I have not been SNP tested. There are currently five other members of the Howle Y-DNA project that have essentially the same test results as I do, but none of these have been SNP tested either. Would having these five members join the R1b1c7 project be helpful to the project? If so, I will ask them to join. Thanks. Tom Howle
8. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 55/Strasser [1]
Dear Terence: Thanks for the response. The paper trail is with a fourth cousin, listed as R1b1 on FTDNA, "unknown" on Y-Search. His ID on the latter is WRTHK. My brother, not the cousin's brother (just to be clear!), is a confirmed R1b1c7, and he and the fourth cousin are exact 37 marker matches. My brother's ID on Y-Search is DHU7W. We all share the same surname (Coyne). I can place my immigrant ancestor's probable sister in County Westmeath in 1830 (baptism), but there is a family tradition on the
9. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Haplotype results [1]
David, I've taken your suggestion--on reloading to Ysearch from the personal page of the cousin in question, the haplogroup designation was automatically reset to "unknown." This, I agree, is a very confusing feature of Ysearch. Has anyone on this list actually called FTDNA's attention to the problem this is causing? I mean, anyone at the administrator level? Terry --- David Ewing wrote: > Terry Strasser said, "...I myself edited the > "unknown" haplogroup to R1b1c7 > for this
10. [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
Hi Jeff , >> Nonetheless many American histories recount the stories of Lord Baltimore and >>William Penn, etc, but totally neglect the stories of the thousands of people >>who came to their colonies. > >Ahh but that would be the job of the family genealogist/historian. >General histories are by nature general, so only high profiled individuals even >get a mention. Not really. A general history should be the history of generally, ALL, not a cameo of a few priveleged individuals. In addition to recoun
11. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] FTDNA Haplogroups [1]
Ken Nordtvedt said, "My haplotype has been SNP tested out the gazoo..." Good Heavens. I knew there was DNA there, but imagining the collection procedure evokes images that are not a pretty sight. ;) Ken's point is well taken. I think it would be swell if FtDNA would arrange to display the actual SNP testing results for those of us interested in confirming for ourselves any judgment to be made about haplogroup or subclade designations, and also to allow folks to report SNP results from elsewhere. Even if t
12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in McKenzie DNA project [1]
So far, with only ONE exception all haplotypes that look like they might be R1b1c7 have tested M222+. I have sorted the outlier as Pre-M222 on the project page www.ftdna.com/public/R1b1c7 . Furthermore, no haplotypes have tested M222+ that couldn't be predicted as R1b1c7 based on STR values. I would say that with 37 markers or more available to study, R1b1c7 is the haplogroup that is probably LEAST in need of a SNP to confirm membership. The STR values are that distinctive. Can you print a link the McKenzi
13. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
In a message dated 7/25/2007 3:08:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, lmerle@comcast.net writes: Actually DNA research has proven it, according to one man who has published the research. Also they are not related to the Anradan kindred, the McSweenies, yada, yada, but apparently to the Ui Neills. This I'd like to see. The MacSweeneys aren't the only Anradan kindred. Also included are the Maclachlans of Argyllshire, Lamonts and McEwens of Otter. Anradan is said to be a son of Aodh Athlaman, the
14. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
In a message dated 7/21/2007 2:30:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, mccampbell@consolidated.net writes: I also refer you to number 89. Muireadach (III.): son of Eoghan (Eoghan, or Eugene, or Owen was a son of Niall Mor). Muireadach was married to Earca, daughter of Loarn, King of Dalriada in Scotland, and by her had many sons and daughter, two of them are especially mentioned: - Muirceartach Mor, and Fergus Mor, both called "Mac Earca." From this Fergus Mor descended the Kings of Scotland, an
15. [DNA-R1B1C7] Why did these languages supersede [1]
Just remember that Indo-European refers to a language group, not a people. Paul Paul keep in mind The only real open issue is, Why did these languages supersede the earlier languages of Europe (except in Basque territory)? Was this supersession accomplished by chariots, agriculture, or trade? In other words, why did an Indo-European language become more convenient or desirable than a native's own? common since tells us the language came with the migrates from the stem of the source.that do
16. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland [1]
Hi David, i'm intrigued, what line is 'Gilbert son of Duncan' then of and what evidence is on Google to support it. Alan In a message dated 29/07/2007 09:35:06 GMT Standard Time, grierson@melbpc.org.au writes: Alan, Please disregard my last, I've had time to do some more research on Google, there is quite a lot of material there. It would appear that, despite the Gilbert - Duncan progression, that "our Gilbert son of Duncan" is of a different family. Regards David Grierson
17. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Updated mutation colorization table. [1]
Thanks. I will fix that in the next table update. Every now and again FTDNA refines its haplogroup projections. 74569 was still projected R1b1 when I put the first version of that table together, and I took the information straight out of their data base. David Wilson On 7/30/2007 2:10:47 PM, Betty Stokes (jstokes@houston.rr.com) wrote: > 74569 Carnes has been designated R1blc7 by FTDNA > There is only ones Carnes in the study that I have found and the > information > matches. > > Betty Stokes for Har
18. [DNA-R1B1C7] A List of Deported Convicts and Vagabonds : Ulster Ancestry [1]
A List of Deported Convicts and Vagabonds : Ulster Ancestry http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ua-free_Convicts-and-Vagabonds.html -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~ Blacksheep Ancestors in your Family? Blacksheep@rootsweb.com mail list http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/
19. [DNA-R1B1C7] History as we know it [1]
Linda, you make some well thought out points. My reference was to the "general' trend of history as taught, vs history as learned. What people 'learn' is based on their personal interests, and comes usually as a follow-on to formal education. Schooling can only be a starting point, and it is self interest that motivates learning to a depth that is considered to be 'knowledgeable.' It often takes many years to get to an understanding the motivations, and reasons we seek. 'You can lead a horse...'
20. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in McKenzie DNA project [1]
Hello All, My McKenzie family is represented by 3 DNA kits in the Mackenzie/McKenzie DNA Project. I have taken my brother's DNA kit to 67 markers and also had his sample SNP tested. He came back as R1b1c7, but does not have the Niall emblem as he is a GD of 1 on the first 12 markers that determine who gets the Niall emblem. The project co-administrator has been working on a fluxus chart for the Mackenzie project and found a current grouping of 8 DNA kits near the results of my family and 2 DNA kits that
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Haplotype results [1]
I just upgraded my reading to 67 markers, where it used to say R1b, it now says R1b1c7 (tested), does that mean they actually ran the test, or does that mean that it is still assumed? -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~ Blacksheep Ancestors in your Family? Blacksheep@rootsweb.com mail list http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/
22. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 1, Issue 62 [1]
> > Lineage R1b originated prior to the end of the last ice age where it was > concentrated in refugia in southern Europe and Iberia and is the most common > in European populations. It is especially common in the west of Ireland where > it approaches 100% of the population. This haplogroup contains the Atlantic > modal STR haplotype. > Gene > > > First off, we are talking about "island populations" where the genetics are constrained by the inability in general to leave the Island. It is a clo
23. [DNA-R1B1C7] Updated mutation colorization table. [1]
http://www.m222.net/R1b1c7-color-mut David Wilson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM
24. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Advanced Test for Northwest Irish [1]
Yes, I had the 464X test some time ago and show the same pattern Paul does: ccgc. Most if not all R1b1c7 individuals are likely to have the same 3c/1g pattern, though the order of appearance might differ based on the numerical value of the g-allele. Perhaps a word of explanation is in order for those who don't know what this 464 "X" test is all about. About three years ago, when there was very little established differentiation among R1b1c haplotypes except what could be suggested through STR clusters, Th
25. [DNA-R1B1C7] Galloglas? [1]
Hi Nextdill, The book to read on the Galloglass is "Scots Mercenary Forces in Ireland (1565-1603)" by Hayes-McCoy. It is the most thorough treatment that I am aware of and everything else I've read (including histories of Ireland) refer to it. (Not histories like the "Irish Annals", of course!) If you read it you will learn that no one really knows who they were. We know where they came from. They came from the western Isles and no doubt the western coast. They are the usual guys living there at the time.
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