Archives Search Engine

Body:
Subject:
From:
(email address of poster)
List:
(limit search to one mailing list)
Date:
(e.g. 10 Jun 2005, Jun 2005, or 2005)
   Search tips

Searching for: +path:dna-r1b1c7 +(+date:jun +date:2008)
Viewing 1-25 of 39 matches from 36,018,260 documents1 2 | Next
1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Thanks for the help, David. The results in question are from my cousin on my mother's side. A male descendant of my mother's father. I'm R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) and I have enlisted a couple of my cousins who are direct descendants of my maternal grandfather and great grandfathers to be tested. Good idea?   I guess I'm confused about the line "currently published", sounded like he might fit into a new category down the road that has yet to be created. Adding the "e" (M222) gives more of a focused locatio
2. [DNA-R1B1C7] Linda ,your post [1]
Hi Dan, So far, no death threats for my post! This is encouraging.....between my ability to accidentally insult anyone and our Ulster paranoia, it's a rare day indeed!! Most of your surnames (Gallaghers, McCools and Maquires) seem to be Irish in origin, but the Moor, as you noticed, is a problem because you got your English Moores -- could be locative (placename), Old French, or come from 'dark' -- ie a Moor, and your Gaelic Moores. In Scotland it can be locative (placename) or Muir or the Gaelic Mor
3. [DNA-R1B1C7] sectarian division in Ulster of r1b1c7? [1]
Dear Yair, Paranoia is our usual mental state here. As you were born in Jerusalem you understand that! Except that in Jerusalem it was probably not hard to tell the difference between an Israeli Jew and an Arab based on cultural clues. It's a lot more difficult in Northern Ireland. Much more complex. So more paranoia. More concern about 'who' it is 'we' are. Many polemics and much bad "science", down to today, has been spent digging barriers around the much diminished ethnic identities in Ulster. In the
4. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Is this list active? [1]
Nothing new for a while. On 6/4/08, yair wrote: > > Is this list active? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
5. [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Hi all,   New SNP results just in for a different ancestor and I need some clarification. He isn't R1b1b2e, like I am.   Results are R1b1b2, "and negative for all currently published mutations downstream of M269."   This is a man from Lebanon, a Christian.   What does this tell me? Isn't R1b1b2 a European haplogroup? Do I need to wait now for new mutations to be discovered to see where he fits? Does that mean retesting? Is this unusual? I appreciate any insight you can give. Thank you,
6. [DNA-R1B1C7] Who are the R1b1c7? [1]
Are we in the Halopogroup R1b1c7 (R1b1b2e), the Connacht? The descendant of Conn of Hundred Battles (be he Fact or Fiction). Also should be rooting for Queen Maeve against Cu Cuchlainn and the Ulaid? Thanks, Bernard. _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchcashback
7. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Ysearch does not allow surname searches right now. But I saw a NW Irish M222+ haplotype in the Conroy project. Is that you? If so, I would expect there to be tons of NW Irish M222+ 12 marker haplotypes with the 10 at 391 instead of more common 11. Who, if any, of this clade the Levant fellow is related to is an open question. But the haplotype I saw in the Conroy project has some other markers (beyond the first 12) which are so unusual, they should be measured for this Levant fellow, and if they
8. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
DYS456 and DYS449 are good places to start to look for serious matches, especially the former. In SMGF I found 40 haplotypes of the NW Irish type but with 10 at 391. Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden had some of them, although Ireland still really stood out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Conroy" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie > Ken, > > Here it is: > http://www.ysearch.org/se
9. [DNA-R1B1C7] Linda ,your post [1]
Linda, Very nicely stated . I have observed many of the same things in my Derry R1b1c7 Gallaghers, married into McCools and Maquires . My grgrandmother Moor remains a mystery . Havn't done MT-DNA as yet . I found it also to be true in my research of my wife's McAdam line of Monaghan and Derrynoose ,Armagh . They went to P.E.I. on a Father MacDonald ship 1841 . The McAdam DNA of Derrynoose does not match the Scot. Gregor / McAdam DNA as previously thought . It is R1b1c7 . Dr. Brendan O"Grady [
10. [DNA-R1B1C7] Puzzled [1]
David, It was clarified somewhat on the Irish-DNA list. Apparently the Modal for the Niall green shield is 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29. What continues to puzzle me is that my testees who matched that modal were "predicted R1b1" on their Haplogroup page, while BTJWR, who is 390=24, and SUZ7K, who is 389ii=30, were "predicted R1b1b2e." FTDNA must have some doubts that Niall was M222+. Paul
11. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Puzzled [1]

12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Mitch asks: "I'm R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) and I have enlisted a couple of my cousins who are direct descendants of my maternal grandfather and great grandfathers to be tested. Good idea?" Well, sure, Mitch. It is a good idea to get a few folks tested in any line you might be interested in, but remember that since these are relatives in your maternal line, there is no expectation that their Y-DNA should look anything like yours. As for testing "cousins," in the Ewing project I really try to get third or more distan
13. [DNA-R1B1C7] Is this List Active? [1]
Well, its a l ittle early for me to report, but in the interests of keeping the list active--early last month I tested four Byrne and Beirne from southwest Donegal. So far, the 12-marker results for two of them have been returned, and both are R1b1b2e. One, whose ancestors are from around Glenties, has the usual 390=25 385b=13 392=14. The other, who is seventh generation Glencolumbkille, has 390=24 385b=13 392=14. This second profile is that of my own Sligo origins family. Paul Burns
14. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Mitch, I have a match with a Genetic Distance of 1 at 12-Markers in Syria, the guy is R1b1b2 as well, and describes his ancestry as Arab. I have 3 thoughts about this, in order of most likelihood: 1. There were many thousands of crusader knights in today's Israel, Lebanon and Syria in the Middle Ages, so they probably left some descendants. 2. That some Roman legionnaires might have been recruited from Britain, and stationed in the Levant and left descendants there. 3. That some of the Neolithic farmer
15. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Ken, Yes, that would be me - as you see I am NOT related to other Conroy's, and if you read the blurb in Ysearch, you will see why. You say: > But the haplotype I saw in the Conroy project has some other markers > (beyond the first 12) which are so unusual > Oh really? Which ones and why? Cheers, Paul On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote: > Ysearch does not allow surname searches right now. But I saw a NW Irish > M222+ haplotype in the Conroy project. Is t
16. [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 Studies [1]
Dan, This is not my project, and I cannot answer your question about where you can see recent R1b1c7 studies. I am not aware of any. the only info I have is about my own Byrne/Burns/Beirne members who are R1b1c7 (some with all of those three spellings). Paul Burns
17. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Ken, I'm not sure what you're getting at - care to elucidate? Are you suggesting that no explanation is necessary? Do you have an explanation for people with a haplotype common in North Western Ireland, having fairly close matches in the Levant? Cheers, Paul On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote: > Probably none of these scenarios apply. Unless your GD = 1 Mismatch on 12 > markers is for an EXTREMELY strange R1b1b2 haplotype, there probably is no > meaning to
18. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Thanks David for your thoughtful and detailed response. Very helpful to my understanding of this interesting, complex and often puzzling subject. --- On Fri, 6/13/08, David Ewing <davidewing93@gmail.com> wrote: From: David Ewing <davidewing93@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:48 AM Mitch asks: "I'm R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) and I have enlisted a couple of my cousins who are direct descendants of my maternal gr
19. [DNA-R1B1C7] Mail being interfered with. [1]
Paul, This is the text that should have appeared in the previous message: As I understand it, the algorithm looks only at positions 1 - 12. I have a number of similar "peculiarities" in my study. I have a number of Greers who are predicted to be R1b but whose markers on positions 38 - 67 are pure M222+, and certainly not R1b mainstream. Unfortunately I don't have access to their pages, and so must derive the predictions from published data. However, my 2nd cousin, who is identical to me on positions 1
20. [DNA-R1B1C7] sectarian division in Ulster of r1b1c7? [1]
Is there a sectarian division in Ulster of r1b11c7? It is obvious that r1b1c7 pertains to the native Irish but many of them joined the Plantation in Ulster and others may have been r1b1c7 in Scotland. Is there a great difference along sectarian lines of r1b1c7 lines? What about the Scots-Irish and Irish-Catholics in America. How do they compare? I have seen it assumed (probably by mistake) that the Scots-Irish have an even higher rate than others and find this hard to believe but if true deserving of f
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Is this List Active? [1]
Paul , I have been busy and lost track of the R1b1c7 studies . Where can I see latest info. ? Dan Jenkins -- R1b1c7 Gallaghers of Derry and Inishowen > From: pabloburns@comcast.net> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:44:36 +0000> Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] Is this List Active?> > Well, its a l ittle early for me to report, but in the interests of keeping the list active--early last month I tested four Byrne and Beirne from southwest Donegal. So far, the 12-marker results for two of them ha
22. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
I read an excellent book on the third crusade by James Reston Jr called "Warriors of God" and currently reading one on the fourth. One of the themes is that subsequent crusader armies were pretty disgusted with the way that previous armies had settled into the middle eastern way of life and had kind of forgotten the reasons they made the Crusader pilgramage in the first place. There was a 30 year difference between the 2nd and 3rd crusade and Richard the Lionhearted was quite angry over this development. F
23. [DNA-R1B1C7] Is this list active? [1]
Is this list active?
24. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] General Question from rookie [1]
Hi, Mitch. It is not at all unusual to find someone in R1b1b2* that is "negative for all currently published mutations downstream of M269;" indeed, the number of folks in this group probably exceeds the total of all of those who are positive for any of the downstream SNPs. You don't need to wait or do more testing to "see where he fits:" this is where he fits. [Notice the asterisk--this means "M269+ and negative for all currently published mutations downstream of M269," whereas R1b1b2 without the asterisk
25. [DNA-R1B1C7] Puzzled [1]
FTDNA's algorithms. or whatever they are called, continue to puzzle me. I just received 37 marker returns for a project member who is a 37/1 match with another. The latter has been SNP tested and is R1b1b2e (Northwest Irish). FTDNA will only allow that the new man is "Predicted to be R1b1." Yet they awarded him that little green "Niall of the Nine Hostages" shield on his Personal Page. I recently tested five men who reside in southwest Donegal. They have been reported by FTDNA as follows Identity FT
Viewing 1-25 of 39 matches from 36,018,260 documents1 2 | Next

CPU seconds used 0.519921