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1. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DYF399X modals [1]
I'm 22t-25c-27.1t, just like one of David's Group 5 members. I think it is possible that 399X may be of some use in separating lineages in a complicated family, but I'm not sure it will help much in defining clusters of families or subgroups of R1b1c7. I view the marker somewhat the same way I look at CDYa and b, the fast mutators from FTDNA's third panel. I have not tried to compile any modal values for this marker in R1b1c7 because there simply aren't that many tests to compile. David's Ewing exemplars
2. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 or not R1b1c7? [1]
In a message dated 3/16/2008 7:06:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, dcw@m222.net writes: Stats for Fleury in the Irish surname lookup: Dublin 1 Dublin City 1 Galway 1 Kilkenny 1 Offaly 3 Waterford 2 Those stats are identical to the totals from the Griffith's Valuations CD ca. 1855. Most have come from that. I also found a Fluery in the Griffith's from Co. Louth. One of the early parish registers for Dublin (Church of England) has a listing for a Mr. Fleury in 16
3. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Interesting developments -- new SNP S116 [1]
In a message dated 3/23/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, dcw@m222.net writes: I want to make it clear for those who don't closely follow developments in the complex branching structure of the Y-DNA tree that this SNP does NOT say that R1b1c7 is part of R1b1c10, or vice versa. It appears that this SNP will divide what we now think of as the huge R1b1c haplogroup into two large though probably unequal divisions, with some known subhaplogroups going with the new branch and other haplogroups
4. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Ui Neill Modals [1]
Paul, I threw in a modal for the McGoverns from their DNA site. It's a little misleading because as they say on their site there are clearly two groups of McGoverns, related but different. And you won't pick this up from a modal. But it's almost identical to your Byrne modal, in that it matches the R1b1c7 modal exactly except for DYS 391 = 10 and CDYb = 40. About a third of the McGoverns have DYS 391 = 11. It seems like the O Byrne pedigree is placing them closer to the McDermots than the
5. [DNA-R1B1C7] Possible Link between R1b1c7 and R1b1c10 -- new SNP under investigation [1]
A Y-chromosome SNP identified as rs34276300 may unite the R1b1c7 and R1b1c10 folk, as well as some R1b1c*, within the broader R1b1c population. This SNP is one of hundreds tested by deCODEme, an Icelandic genetic testing firm. A handful of genetic genealogists have ordered this test, and the initial results suggest that it may reveal a useful marker to divide the R1b1c population into major subgroups. R1b1c9 individuals and an individual from Haplogroup G, much higher in the Y-DNA tree, share the C allele
6. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Sub-clades of R1b1c7 [1]
In a message dated 3/4/2008 9:09:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, davidewing93@gmail.com writes: John McLaughlin writes, "I have a question for any DNA experts who may happen to read this. Why have we been unable to find any markers that reliably divide R1b1c7 into recognizable sub-clades?" I think this is a well-framed and interesting question. I suggest that you post it on the RootsWeb DNA list for wider circulation, John. My impression is that there are more "experts" on that list than on the
7. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA - Pat Conroy [1]
Hi Paul, thanks for replying. I wonder how many Polish people who are emigrating to Britain and Ireland today descend from ancestors who emigrated to Poland? The old gene pool is really being diluted. Several years ago, I was studying a Milliken family who emigrated from Germany to America! Guess where they came from before emigrating to Germany? I appreciate your help. I really want to solve the problem identified below. Here is the first passage taken from the Book of Ballymote, can you
8. [DNA-R1B1C7] Fwd: [ASHLEY] Crosses the Blue Ridge Mountains via Ashley's Gap.- THE IRISH RD.. [1]
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9. [DNA-R1B1C7] Subclades of R1b1c7 [1]
John pointed out that the four R1b1c7 Burns I believe are a Sligo subclade have DYS390=24 and DYS460=12 or higher (modal values are 25 and 11 for those markers). I checked the R1b1c7 site for others, but only four others match those Burns values and none are Sligo. There are four others, a Dunbar (Dublin;), Fegusson (Perthshire), Doherty (Donegal), and a McGill (Scotland). Paul Burns
10. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Interesting developments -- new SNP S116 [1]
S116 is the name given by EthnoAncestry to the SNP that I mentioned earlier on this list under the identifying label rs34276300. At this point there is no need for any R1b1c7 individual to order this test. We have one known M222+ individual who is also positive for what we may now call S116, and I have ordered the SNP for myself just to make sure that the derived status in the other individual was not a testing error or fluke of interpretation. If we are both positive for S116, then it is a foregone concl
11. [DNA-R1B1C7] Ui Neill Modals [1]
I posted a few Ui Neill family modals on my Clan McLaughlin web site. I'd be happy to post more if I can find any. _http://members.aol.com/Lochlan/modals.htm_ (http://members.aol.com/Lochlan/modals.htm) John **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
12. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Interesting developments -- new SNP S116 [1]
I had to refresh my memory on R1b1c haplogroups. I imagine others might find it confusing as well. But the latest haplogroup tree on Ethnoancestry lists the following from M269 (R1b1c) and the sub-clades downstream of M269. I presume the new S116 SNP will cover everything downstream of M269. It'll be interesting to see how these groups fall out with the new SNP. What David is talking about is R1b1c7 and R1b1c10 in one group; R1b1c9 in another. And no one knows into which group the rest
13. [DNA-R1B1C7] Southern Ui Neill DNA - Pat Conroy [1]
Alan, Many Polish people descend from lowland Scots families who were invited to move to Poland in the middle ages. Poland needed a middle class -- people with skills. The king invited them. The first inkling of this I found in a book on Polish genealogy. It explained why in my hours of viewing Scottish parish records, I saw the occasional polish first name. This was before the counter reformation and the European wars. Much of Poland was briefly Protestant. See http://books.google.com/books?id=y0maSM-t
14. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Ui Neill Modals [1]
John, Attached for your interest and comparison is an Excel spreadsheet containing the three Grier(son)/Greer/Grear/McGreer modals I have derived. The 42 sets of data I have been able to find divide (in my view) almost equally into three haplogroups. Few have been SNP tested, but the virtually identical results in markers 38-67 are used as the basis for judgement in identifying the R1b1c7 members, in spite of FTDNA's lables, most of which are R1b. The earliest known ancestors in most cases are Irish,
15. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Scots in Poland [1]
Linda, There were tens of thousands of Irish in the employ of the Austro-Hungarian empire, a part of which was Southern Poland and the Galatia region of today's Western Ukraine. The many "Brown" generals, are but one example. Also Google "Schottenkloster" for links to the great number of Irish monastic settlements in the former Holy Roman Empire - part of which was Western Poland. Some of these were later populated by a mix of Irish and Western Scottish monks, right up till the 19th century. Cheers, Pau
16. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Sub-clades of R1b1c7 [1]
John, Don't know about sub-clades - but I would like to see some sort of geographic distribution of people - like me - who have near modal values for R1b1c7, except a DYS 391 = 10, rather than the more usual 11. At the basic 12-markers, I am GD=1 away from the bulk of the O'Dohertys, O'Reillys, Cowans and many more, due to this marker. So is their a geographic split between those that have a 10 value, versus an 11 value?? Cheers, Paul On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, wrote: > I have a
17. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 Surname Modals [1]
In a message dated 3/12/2008 4:20:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: As you know, I am going to Sligo and Donegal next month to search for additional DNA samples from Byrne and Burns who reside there. Only about six of the 23 members I include in my NW Cluster know where their ancestors came from. If we are ever to crack this R1b1c7 mystery, we all have to expand in Ireland. But that is stating the obvious. The problem is, how to locate volunteers. Paul I'm se
18. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Subclades of R1b1c7 [1]
In a message dated 3/5/2008 3:55:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: John pointed out that the four R1b1c7 Burns I believe are a Sligo subclade have DYS390=24 and DYS460=12 or higher (modal values are 25 and 11 for those markers). I checked the R1b1c7 site for others, but only four others match those Burns values and none are Sligo. There are four others, a Dunbar (Dublin;), Fegusson (Perthshire), Doherty (Donegal), and a McGill (Scotland). Paul Burns I tried the same
19. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Ui Neill Modals [1]
In a message dated 3/11/2008 3:38:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: John, Even though we cannot identify Byrne Rib1c7s by clan origins, you might consider including our cluster modal BJY9J on your chart. It is only one mutation away from the R1b1c7 modal--a 40 at CDYb instead of the latter's 39. Paul Paul, I added your O Byrne modal to the page. I just listed it under Connachta for the time being, which is probably accurate. I would have added more modals but in
20. [DNA-R1B1C7] The Chichesters (also known as the Donegalls) were English-based in 1870 [1]
Belfast Castle The Chichesters (also known as the Donegalls) were the English-based absentee landlords of most of Belfast. However, they came to live in the Ormeau area at the beginning of the 19th Century. When he remarried in 1862 the 3rd Marquis of Donegall decided to build a new house within the deer park on Cave Hill. He employed the architecture firm of Lanyon, Lynn and Lanyon to design a Scottish Baronial style home, similar in style to the newly rebuilt Balmoral Castle. The magnificen
21. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 or not R1b1c7? [1]
John, I have a Cannon member who is 11-12 at DYS385 but is modal on the rest of the 12 markers that he has. He is tested M222+ Your Fleury FXS2J appears to be off at 385b, 449 & 464 which may not be that bad if we are looking at 2000+ years. Also FTDNA may have other customers with those STR values that tested M222+ Gary Blakely -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:48 PM To: dn
22. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Subclades of R1b1c7 [1]
Would there be any more information on the Dunbar in Dublin? In a message dated 3/5/2008 3:52:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, Lochlan@aol.com writes: In a message dated 3/5/2008 3:55:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: John pointed out that the four R1b1c7 Burns I believe are a Sligo subclade have DYS390=24 and DYS460=12 or higher (modal values are 25 and 11 for those markers). I checked the R1b1c7 site for others, but only four others match those Burns valu
23. [DNA-R1B1C7] Interesting developments [1]
The following was part of an email sent out by Ethnoancestry. EthnoAncestry is pleased to announce the release of an exciting new > > Y chromosome SNP marker, S116, which appears to divide the R1b > > group. As yet, there are very few genotypes for this marker, which > > is found in the Illumina 1M panel (as used by deCODEme). However, it appears that the M222 and S28 groups are united in a > > new subgroup of R1b, while the S21 group is not within this clade > > defined by S116. This has very inter
24. Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Sub-clades of R1b1c7 [1]
In a message dated 3/4/2008 1:18:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, pconroy63@gmail.com writes: John, Don't know about sub-clades - but I would like to see some sort of geographic distribution of people - like me - who have near modal values for R1b1c7, except a DYS 391 = 10, rather than the more usual 11. I'm not sure a single marker like DYS 391 is enough to establish a geographical sub-clade. But I gave it a shot anyway in Ysearch. I took a minimal R1b1c7 haplotype (13,25,14,10,11,13 plus
25. [DNA-R1B1C7] DYF399X modals [1]
I wonder if anyone knows if modals have been estblished for DYF399X in R1b1c7. As many of you will recall, the Ewing project has a large (genetically) closely related group of men in several (conventional) kindreds not known to be related to one another. We have been testing some of these men for DYF399X, hoping to find a way to distinguish these kindreds genetically, because the 67-marker panel is just not doing it. I will paste a summary of our results below (though I wonder what will happen to the MS Wor
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