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1. [R-M222] The Niall Mór Headstone [1]
The Niall MC3r Headstone Erected at St. Mary of the Visitation Church, Killybegs, Co. Donegal. Article by Moira Mallon, Killybegs, Co Donegal. Committee Member County Donegal Historical Society. First Published in 'Dearchadh -The Ardara View', 2004-2005. (We are grateful to heraldic scholars and historians who have given us permission to publish their work.) Niall MC3r McSwyney (Mac Sweeney) was, according to the Four Masters, one of the most eminent members of the Clan McSwyne of Banagh, o
2. Re: [R-M222] SNP Test [1]
Is there any way to link the SNP info in that DecodeME/23andMe file with a testee's DNA markers? There's only one McGinley on Ysearch (37 marker test). This is a Donegal family; earliest reference about 1250 A.D.. Lots of 12 marker R1b1c7 McGinley samples in the Trinity spreadsheet. _http://mcginleyclan.org/index.htm_ (http://mcginleyclan.org/index.htm) John In a message dated 11/2/2008 6:38:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, dcw@m222.net writes: One other M222+ individual has to my know
3. [R-M222] Please disregard my question about my DNA matches. [1]
The FTDNA software won't duplicate the results of the other day.aaarrrggghhhh Cheers? Dick
4. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Yes John, I have read your hypothesis before on the possibility of M222 starting on the continent and hope I can be one piece of the puzzle someday. I have also found the same Latin form and have been through all the similar Irish phonetic forms with this thread before. The Irish forms were pretty much rejected out of hand as there is no historical precedent of the surname in Ireland so I am concentrating on the surnames in Brittany and will just go from there. As I said before, if I can prove a DNA link
5. Re: [R-M222] SNP Test [1]
I think I'd hold off a while on SNP tests. Two R1b1c7 (David Wilson, Paul Burns) have just said they ordered the DecodeMe or one of the other tests last week. Maybe something new will come from that. John In a message dated 11/2/2008 3:10:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, equisand@equiformratings.com writes: Would it make sense to have an SNP test? If so, would it be best to wait till FTDNA offer the L21 test? **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5
6. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
7. Re: [R-M222] SNP Test [1]
Actually I got my 23andMe results Friday evening. There are no new SNPs that distinguish M222 people from the next step up the tree, but I had just over 200 "no calls" out of nearly 2100 Y-chromosome SNPs tested. So there is still room for a new SNP to sneak in. One other M222+ individual has to my knowledge tested with 23andMe -- the name is McGinley. Leaving out the "no calls," he and I matched on every SNP where we both got a reading. These results are available in an excel workbook (large! -- 4+ megs)
8. Re: [R-M222] Yet another revised haplogroup name for the M222 branch [1]
I should have posted the link to the updated page: http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR08.html Also, check out this graphic, which shows the position of R-M222 in the second tier of the right-hand (red) group: http://dna-forums.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=1242 If no image comes up, you will have to subscribe to DNA Forums and log in to view it. There is no cost to join, and since it is a forum rather than a list, your mailbox will not fill up with messages irrelevant to your interests. If
9. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
In a message dated 11/29/2008 5:41:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, equisand@equiformratings.com writes: This seems quite relevant to me in considering for instance the DNA of purportedly Dalriadic descendants. In particular, the roughly 10% R1b1c7 found in Clan McDonald would seem to be about what one would expect if they were originally R1b1c7. I have some questions about the 10% of McDonalds who are R1b1c7. How do we know which McDonalds they are? McDonald was also a common surname in Irelan
10. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Hi Steve I agree that social behaviour changes over time, but I seriously doubt whether mankind's natural functions have changed much over the centuries. But yes, it is a difficult thing to nail down and my calculations were intended to be illustrative - I make no claims that they are definitive. What they illustrate, I believe, is that the assumption of a continuous passing down of a blood-line in a family over many generations is badly flawed, and is likely to lead to spurious conclusions. Good luck wi
11. [R-M222] Yet another revised haplogroup name for the M222 branch [1]
In the new ISOGG tree, the proper branch label for M222 is R1b1b2a1b6b. FTDNA is still using the recently established label R1b1b2a1b5 for M222. As knowledge of SNPs and new branching points in the Y-DNA Tree expand, it will be harder and harder to keep all researchers and tree keepers completely informed. That is why there is a growing tendency to refer to branches of the tree by their major alphabetic identifier and the defining SNP -- in the case of this group, R-M222. A SNP's relative position on the
12. [R-M222] Can anyone help me understand this? [1]
This is VERY strong statistically, but now that I've stumbled across it I don't know enough about DNA to understand what it means. My DNA is 4 distant from the NW Irish modal at 37 measures. The difference appears to be strongest at DYS385b where I have 12 repeats instead of the standard of 13. (the others are: GATAH 4 is 12, CDYa is 38, and CDYb is 38). Curiosity arose because I sorted the entire sample of FTDNA (100,000+ public records) to the NW Irish Haplotype modality, allowing a distance o
13. [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Does anyone in the group have a view on NPE frequency? For purposes of the exercise, the definition of NPE includes teenage pregnancies where the mother either never marries, or marries someone other than the natural father of the child). Sandy Paterson
14. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Hi David I was hoping that your medical background may prompt you to provide some answers. However, > As for your calculations about the Dal Riata, you must consider that in the case of most NPEs in this group, the biological father and the owner of the surname would both have been in the Dal Riata group. > In some cases, yes. In most? Initially, perhaps, but not for many generations. Thereafter I'd suggest it would be the other way round, with by far the majority of NPE biological fathers being outside
15. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Hi All I found one estimate that the number of adopted people in the USA is somewhere between 6m and 10m, so 3% of the population may be about right. What I'm trying to estimate is that proportion of males who have a surname different to that of their natural father. Apart from adoption, it can happen when the family surname is passed down a female line. This happens in a young pregnancy where the mother doesn't marry, and the child is given the mother's maiden name as a surname. Another way a child can
16. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
----- Original Message ----- From: "John McLaughlin" To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency > I have read your hypothesis before on the possibility of M222 starting > on the continent > > That's not my hypothesis. That's what O'Rahilly had to say (Early Irish > History and Mythology). I have mentioned it in connection with R1b1c7 > because it's a widely known theory in Irish pre-history. According to > O'
17. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
I see what you mean Sandy. Don't bother with the project yet. I only have one tester other than me and he just sent his sample in. I am talking to other lines like Lammerich from Germany and Lomenech from France. Ran into a couple of coincidences, I have Lomenech and Lamouric's in Brittany, France in the 1500s and Lamineck (my line)/Lammerichs in the Lauterecken area of Germany in the mid to late 1600/1700s. A connection to Bretagne would probably help the thread in pinpointing one of the European M222s
18. [R-M222] T Krahn's Chart [1]
Thanks. Thomas's chart came up with the corrected address. Now to figure it out. FYI, I have a Leinster Cluster member who was SNP tested to be R1b1b2. He is a 67/67 match with a more recent testee who FTDNA has classified R1b1b2a1b. I asked FTDNA if I could not change the former to the latter, but the answer was nope--he tested too early. I suppose I could enter him with the a1b addition in red. Paul
19. Re: [R-M222] To NPE or not to NPE [1]
When John brings Eochaidh Feidhleach to our attention he quoting how our ancestors viewed their/our ancestors. It is a fascinating subject that I cannot do justice accept mention that reference to three is an amplifier in Irish and women mention are most likely goddess of sovereignty. So I would suggest that Eochaidh Feidhleach and immediate descendants are mythical characters and that are historical ancestors burst forth at the being of the first millenium AD. If you are interested in the myths of our an
20. Re: [R-M222] Ewings [1]
Hi Paul Thanks for that. A very strange thing happened today. I received an e-mail from someone in YBase. I am apparently his closest match, so he contacted me. He is quite new to DNA so I helped him along a bit. But to cut a long story short (although I suspect the story is about to grow), I think he may be a relative of yours. He is a Steve Dunn, looks R1b1c7 and has DYS449 = 32. How Dunn becomes Conroy or the other way round escapes me. But I thought I'd check for Dunn in YSearch and found you instea
21. [R-M222] SNP Test [1]
The following is the distribution of the sum of marker scores amongst those with 67 marker tests in M222+ Sum Number 1004 3 1005 3 1006 8 1007 8 1008 18 1009 25 1010 24 1011 15 1013 14 1014 18 1015 9 1016 6 1017 3 1018 2 1019 2 My own alleles sum to 1019, one of the 2 shown above. As such I seem to be at some kind of extreme in the M222+ project. Would it make sense to have an SNP test? If so, would it be best to wait till FTDNA offer the L21 test? Sandy Paterson
22. Re: [R-M222] Conroys/Dunns [1]
Sandy, I am Y-Search DFG6F, and have added the following to my family history: Patrick Conroy was my grandfather, born in County Laois, Ireland. Country Laois was formerly called: County Laoghis, County Leix and Queen's County. There are 3 main areas of Ireland with Conroys, they are: Galway/Mayo, Roscommon and Laois/Offaly. The Conroy clan in County Laois is supposed to have originated when a fellow by the name Conn Dunne, ran to warn the O'Moores that the English were invading. He was thereafter given th
23. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Sandy listed some of the ways a man can end up with a different surname than his biological father. - adoption - using the mother's surname when the mother is unmarried - misattributed paternity - pregnant by a different man at time of marriage - adultry during marriage - father unknown Here are some other ways a man can have a different surname than his biological father: - changing family name to the name of the wife in order to receive an inheritance or garner social
24. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
In a message dated 11/30/2008 7:38:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, stevelominac@hotmail.com writes: A connection to Bretagne would probably help the thread in pinpointing one of the European M222s to a time and place that may be able to help some of them with their ancestors or perhaps even a starting point for the M222 itself (yeah I know, blasphemy). This little monastery town in Brittany is some 1400 years old. That might not be so far fetched, Steve. About a year ago I was researching
25. Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency [1]
Here's another reason (in my husband's family): Parents' acrimonious divorce; mother dies; father remarries and moves across country. Since the mother's family name had ended when a baby boy died, this boy was adopted by his mother's twin brother at the urging of the grandfather. This adoption was done at the age of 13, and the boy consented. However, the state where this happened in the '60s seals its records, and had he been younger, this only child may never have known. So, a name lives on with the DNA
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