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1. Missing watermen. [1]
Yes I agree with Vernon Bell, that many thousands of watermen simply disappeared from the Thames whilst "pressed" into Navy service. The series of books "History of the Watermens Company" by Henry Humperhus states hundreds of examples when watermen and lightermen were simply told that they would be serving in the Navy. This is an obvious answer as to why so many men never obtained their freedoms. In 1796 a survey was conducted which shows the following interesting results. 2196 barges used in the coa
2. Thanks for the interesting data! [1]
What an enjoyable and interesting lot of data, after naming all the boats Rob, which one is the barge with sails please?? Loved the picture of Westminster Bridge and the Watermen, it shows their uniform and boats very well, and such gentlemanly courtesy. Thanks, Jan Robb...Hedges Lightermen..Limehouse.
3. Re: Fighting Elizabethan watermen [1]
I think they were violent times - even Shakespeare and some of his men were up before the courts for fighting at one stage!! Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: Fighting Elizabethan watermen > Hello Listers , It seems that the watermen employed directly by the rich in > the 16th century could be pretty violent . Here's an excerpt from a site which > gives more about the whole dispute: > >
4. Re Thanks [1]
Meant to say I'm away for a couple of weeks, have unsubscribed from all other lists, but just don't want to miss anything on this one, so interesting and informative. Jan Robb..N.Z.
5. fish out of water? [1]
Being new to the geneoligy and family tree thing, I am a lttile stumped as to where I should get started, and what records I can access and would appreciate any helpful advice and tips. So far I seem to be kicked out of everywhere I try as servers are down, and records are unavailable. I have accessed the 1901 census which has proved to be helpful, but I am trying to find out how I can access and perhaps copy information about my great great grandfather. He was called Edward Barber and was a trinity pi
6. Maritime links [1]
Hello Listers , This link is very useful if your waterman or offspring left the Thames and became a sailor: http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/Site.html Best wishes to all Listers, Robert Hillier
7. Re: Royal Waterman's Almshouses, Penge [1]
Hi listers My ggrandfather , Jimmy Nelson, was a lighterman as was his son-in-law Tom Warham (for a short time). My ggrandparents lived in the Almshouses and I visited my ggrandmother there many times until she died in 1948. Ggrandfather died about 1935 before I was born. To live in the Almshouses you had to be voted in by your peers. You were then entitled to free accommodation and free coal. If there was a shipment of flour or dried fruit you also got some of that although I'm not sure why. My 92 yea
8. Images of documents? [1]
Hello Listers I am so grateful that this list has been set up as it has rekindled my efforts to trace my lightermen ancestors (three generations of GRIGGS living in Deptford or around about the Tower of London), and also to Rob Cottrell for re-visiting the affidavit books and advising me of the place of baptism of my 4xggrandfather's which he had previously found unreadable - East Donyland - I ask you! Apologies to anyone connected with the district but I had never heard of it before. Did you get some n
9. If you get Unsubscribed [1]
Hello Listers , If you can read this you are still Subscribed . If you find that the List stops arriving in your mail , you've been automatically Unsubscribed by the RootsWeb Robots because mail sent to you hasn't got through , repeatedly . This will happen if you don't empty your mailbox and it gets full , or if you take a break and do something clever with your mail system which the poor old Robots can't cope with. So.......if you find yourself Unsubscribed , it's time to Subscribe all over again .
10. Re: Registers for Barge owners etc [1]
Angie, I don't think so. You or a researcher needs to get to the originals at the Guildhall Library, London (MS 6309) or order in the microfilm of the original record at an LDS Family History Centre. I won't be going back to that particular film in the near future but if you or others post your interests I'm happy to make a small list and keep an eye out as I do my searches. I have a note in my file next to the #1067075 entry that this film was "all skiffs": Register of Boats 1839-1910; Index to register o
11. Pennell-Law-Davison [1]
Hi List I have several lightermen in my family including James Goodchild Pennell who married Sarah Elizabeth Green on 30th July 1820 at St. John at Hackney. Also various members of the Law family, Middleton and Alfred John Davison who was born 22nd May, 1846 at 19 Wellington Row, Hackney Road also his son Henry etc. A friend is also researching Jennings and Hammock who were Watermen. Should be delighted to hear from anyone who is connected. Elaine Wiltshire.
12. Re: Silver Badge - HILLIER and CROFORD [1]
There is also another possibility for a silver badge, besides that of a waterman's badge or the winner of Doggets Coat & Badge Race. Roughly 10% of watermen from the late 17th to the early 19th centuries were employed in a part time capacity as firemen by some of the major London fire insurance companies and as part of their uniform they were required to wear large arm badges of solid silver bearing the emblem of the company they worked for and their own individual rank number. These insurance company fire
13. Barges [1]
How can I find out what barge my ancestors were working on ? Thanks in advance & hopes Anne --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/03
14. Re: Silver Badge - HILLIER and CROFORD [1]
Hello Robert. WILLIAM HILLIARD won the famous Thomas Doggett Coat & Badge race in 1736. His prize for winning the race would have been (besides cash) a silver badge and originally an orange coat. It would not have been normal for the normal waterman to have and wear a silver badge when plying their trade at the various stairs and causeways along the length of the Thames. I know I have tried to upload the ammended list of winners of the race to your site without success. Besides the winners the uploa
15. Re: What did a waterman do on a Sunday? [1]
Thanks Rob, that brings things so alive. It's nice to see that the slow progress of constructing public buildings isn't a new thing! Kevin. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: What did a waterman do on a Sunday? Hello Listers , In case you were wondering , Robert Southey tells us:E XCURSION TO GREENWICH (from Robert Southeyb
16. Seeking FLEMING [1]
Hi Listers, I've just spent a wonderful hour reading all the archived posts. I'm looking for my FLEMING ancestors who are pretty thin on the Company ground. They were at Battersea, Wandsworth, Vauxhall, Bermondsey and Deptford. I can only get two generations with any certainty in early 1800s but I come across other Fleming references that don't seem to have served apprenticeships and I can't establish relationships!@! :)) Only other connected surname in the company thus far is Robert JOHNSON. Ruth Rat
17. Registers of Barge owners etc [1]
Thankyou Ruth for posting the transcript of the entry re John Fleming in the Barge Owners Index. This was exactly the sort of info I suggested might be able to be shared on this list a few weeks ago. I didn't know these existed so it leads me to another avenue for research. In appreciation, Ann C Best, Wellington, NZ. PS If you come across any Samuel GRIGGSs (there were at least three generations of lightermen bearing that name) I'd be grateful to hear of them.
18. Westminster Bridge before it was built [1]
Hello Listers, You may find that your waterman ancestor plied for hire from Westminster Bridge before Westminster Bridge was built! Do not despair : it looks to me as if the name might have been a joke name . Here is an excerpt from a guide of 1722 ( before the bridge was planned): Remarks on London: Being an Exact Survey of the Cities of London and Westminster, Borough of Southwark, and the Suburbs and Liberties contigious to them, shewing every Street, Lane, Court, Alley, Green, Yard, Close, Square
19. Silver Badge - HILLIER and CROFORD [1]
Hello Listers, Information please: I have a waterman's will of 1754 in which he refers to his Silver Badge. Was this a waterman's badge ? Were they always , sometimes , never made of silver?? Any information welcome. Does anyone have in their family any waterman mementos , like badges etc? Extract from will........ I William Hillier Senior of Kew in the Parish of Richmond in the County of Surry Waterman ...............Also I give to my daughter Mary Croford my Silver Badge .........................
20. Re: A scene at Vauxhall Stairs [1]
This is a different painting to the one Vernon originally pointed us to!! Still, it all adds to the tapestry of life as a waterman. Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: Re: A scene at Vauxhall Stairs > I think Ruth means: > http://www.lclark.edu/~jhart/mezzo1775/scenevauxhallstair.jpg > > Also if you remove the last part and just enter: > http://www.lclark.edu/~jhart/mezzo1775/
21. Benjamin LILLY [1]
Hello listers. I am new to your list, but have been subscribibg to various others for some time. Firstly, congratulations to Robert Hillier for his excellent subscriber introduction page. I have not had time to visit all the listed sites, but intend to. My Waterman interest is Benjamin Joseph LILLY who is described on his son's Wedding Certificate (Parish of St Andrews West)in August 1885, as a Waterman and Lighterman. His son was a fireman, perhaps he saw what was coming to his father's trade. Apart from t
22. An early sighting of Westminster Bridge [1]
Hello Listers, This is the last I'll say about Westminster Bridge tonight < grin>. The use of this as a placename definitely goes back well before the building of the first Westminster Bridge - here it is in Samuel Pepys' diary for April 1667: Thence by water at 10 at night from Westminster Bridge, having kissed little Frank, and so to the Old Swan, and walked home by moonshine, and there to my chamber a while, and supper and to bed. (The Old Swan would have been the Old Swan Pier , another watermen'
23. Re: Royal Waterman's Almshouses, Penge [1]
I'm interested in this because on the 1881 census my William and Mary LEFORT (he's a retired barge builder) are living in Almshouses in London, Middlesex. The adjoining addresses are Queens Head Rd and Essex St. The almshouse occupants seem to be from all sorts of trades so probably they aren't specifically for river workers, but does anyone know where this would have been? Jeanette (NZ) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 20,
24. 105 more lightermen and watermen from Bermondsey [1]
Hi More names below. Regards, Jo Thomas Pollen William Wogan James Long William Lucey Alexander Jacks James Bates Joseph Bates Adam Syms William Pratt William Palmer George H Syms Joseph Gould Joseph Rose John Rose Charles Rose Robert Smith William S Granton Fracis Inglesley William (Dakers) Thomas Williams William Vennor Robert Jacks John White Thomas White Charles Simmonds Henry Simmonds Alfred Ross Samuel ***oes Isaac Terry William J Marsden Thomas Hearn Edw
25. FW: STILL and ETSER Families [1]
-----Original Message----- From: Terry [mailto:terry@kestrelbooks.com] Sent: 24 May 2003 23:41 To: eng-thameswatermen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FW: STILL and ETSER Families -----Original Message----- From: Terry [mailto:terry@kestrelbooks.com] Sent: 21 May 2003 21:32 To: eng-thameswatermen-@rootsweb.com Subject: STILL and ETSER Families Hello all, My name is Terry Rowan and I am researching my mothers fathers family STILL(S) My Grandfather Arthur STILL was born 1881 in Barking, Essex. there address in 1

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