Good morning, list. I'm a new subscriber, tracing Hanratty and
Bulger families who lived in the Chateauguay Valley of
Quebec, along the route of the Fenian invasions. I've been
able to view MacDonald's "Troublous Times in Canada"
briefly at the MT State Historical Society, and it seems that
some of the Irish Canadian farmers along the route did
aid the Fenians, supplying them with jackets to wear in
place of their uniform jackets, hiding them in their barns and
farmhouses, etc.
My oldest g-g-uncle Ja
In a message dated 01/17/2001 10:51:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Evalou9999@aol.com writes:
<< I think your wish is that of most Irishmen. We all would like to think our
families were patriots and maybe participated in the Fenians when they came
to this Country.
Evalou
>>
Hi, Evalou. :)
Yes, it is my wish. I also wish to believe that my ancestors arrived in E.
Galway from Athlone, following the devastating battle at Aughrim in 1691. My
hope is to discover that I come from a long history of w
General O'Neill started a couple of colonies in NE.
O'Neill, in Holt County, is named after him. There is
a bit of material re: this town and John O'Neill in the
new issue of THE SEPTS (IGSI journal) which I just
got in the mail today. He spent most of his personal
fortune trying to help his countrymen resettle in the
west and mid-west. He worked hard to get them out
of the slums of the big eastern cities. O'Neill had ties
to Thomas Francis Meagher, another Fenian and
leader of the Irish Brigade during
In a message dated 01/19/2001 6:20:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Esco@cescoriza.freeserve.co.uk writes:
<< Would someone please explain what "donnybrooks" are..
Thank You
Christine >>
Rip-roaring fisticuffs.....Irish style...named after a town in Dublin county.
It can also be a verbal.....lengthy....battle.
Janice
In a message dated 01/18/2001 2:37:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Seamus_M_OTrehy@webtv.net writes:
<<
Perhaps we could have a discussion on ways to increase participation?
Assuming that it would be acceptable within the charter of the group, of
course.
Michael
>>
Sounds good to me, Michael. I'm on a few Irish lists and may generate some
interest if I mention this list. I would only mention it off list to a
selected few as there are frequently 'donnybrooks' on many of the Irish lists
I've been
Hi Fellow Subscribers...
Was enjoying the information I'd been receiving since subscribing to the
list about 3 weeks ago. However, suddenly all correspondence stopped
with "Nine Famous Irishmen" on 22 January. Just checking whether there's
simply been a lull in the conversation or if I'm having technical
problems with my system. Adding to my concern is that I've been unable
to connect to the site http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index since Julie
mentioned it - keep getting the message the site is unavail
I thought it might be of interest to the list:
GEAD MILE FAILTE ~~~~~ A HUNDRED THOUSAND WELCOMES
NINE FAMOUS IRISHMEN
In the Young Irish disorders, in Ireland in 1848 the following nine
menwere captured, tried, and convicted of treason against Her Majesty,the
Queen, and were sentenced to death: John Mitchell, Morris Lyene, Pat
Donahue, Thomas McGee, Charles Duffy, Thomas Meagher,
RichardO'Gorman,Terrence McManus, and Michael Ireland.
Before passing sentence, the judge asked if t
In a message dated 01/13/2001 1:11:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kathleenemerson@compuplus.net writes:
<< It has taken me several years research to piece together that much
of the story. Does anyone else have similar stories in their
family?
Kathleen.
>>
Hi, Kathleen. I subscribed to this list a few months ago....and yours is
the first message I've seen. I have not Fenian stories to share....am just
hoping that my GF may have been an Irish Patriot/Fenian.
Wonder where everyone is....and
Hello. I'm a new subscriber to the Fenians-L list and am seeking info
about a Fenian group organized in Mineral Point, Wisconsin. The group
was called Emmett Circle and according the the "History of Iowa County,
Wisconsin," published in 1881, it was the only branch of the Fenian
brotherhood operating in the state. It existed from 1870-1872 with a
membership of 24 judging from the amount of money raised by a $5 poll tax
reported in the volume, above. Its officers were John Commins, Center;
Alex Hefferman
THE FENIANS' ESCAPE
From Songs of the Irish in America, Meek
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Now boys, if you will listen, a story I'll relate
I'll tell you of the noble men who from their foe escaped.
Though bound with Saxon fetters in the dark Australian jail,
They struck a blow for freedom and for Yankeeland set sail.
On the seventeenth of April last the Stars and Stripes did fly
On board the bark Catalpa, waving proudly to the sky;
She showed the green ab
Yes, I don't care for "revisionist" history either, nor do I like
harangues from Irish people living in Ireland who call themselves
"experts" but really don't want to know anything about the
Irish-American, Irish immigrant experience. History didn't
stop when our people left the Irish shores. I am much more
interested in learning about the eras when my people lived,
and what influenced them, than in "getting to know" the Irish
people of today.
Kathleen.
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What eventually happen to General O'Neill?
Jack
Manxxxkit@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 01/20/2001 4:54:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Seamus_M_OTrehy@webtv.net writes:
>
> <<
> The U.S. Fenian movement went in another direction, so to speak; Canada.
> At Cincinnati, In 1865 a convention decided that an invasion of Canada,
> would be a formidable move in the ultimate goal of freeing Ireland from
> English tyranny. June 1866, found Gen. John O'Neill and 800 men
> crossing the Niagara and captur
My great grandparents emigrated from Tipperary in the early 1860s
and eventually moved to O'Neill, Nebraska in the 1870s to live the
rest of their lives there and are buried in the O'Neill Catholic
cemetery.
I recently learned that the ambassador to Ireland, Mike Sullivan, is
also descended from Irish immigrants who came to O'Neill. His
great grandfather left Cork around 1861 and were in upper peninsula
Michigan as miners, then, according to the publication, "Irish Roots"
4th Quarter, 2000, p. 8,
Look how we're all coming out the woodwork! Thanks for the wake up call. I've
been on the list for a few months, and still hadn't gotten around to check
the archive for what I'd missed. I'll do that now.
I live in the Washington, DC, area and am greatly interested in all things
Fenian, particularly if it involves my hero, General John O'Neill (and
particularly if it's any remembrance of him from someone, Canadian, American,
Irish or even British!!, who actually met him.)
yours in greater communicatio
Hello everyone! Hope someone will find this interesting, although you have probably already read it. Just joined Fenians-L.
Deb
Article from Military History:
http://www.thehistorynet.com/MilitaryHistory/articles/03963_text.htm
INTRIGUE
Combining Yankee grit and Irish pluck, the Fenians sent a whaling bark to rescue political prisoners from Australia.
By George Skoch
By all appearances, there was nothing unusual about the departure of the 200-ton whaleship Catalpa from the harbor at New Bedford,
Massac
In a message dated 01/20/2001 8:45:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bradleyjp@worldnet.att.net writes:
<< It is all so intriguing. I look forward to anyone's comments on My Fenian.
Julie >>
How lucky you are, Julie, to have so much documentation on your Fenian. His
story sounds somewhat like John Boyle O'Reilly who was transported to
Australia as a Fenian and aided in escaping by a Roman Catholic priest there.
He was smuggled out on a trading ship and landed in the Carolina's. He
travelled from there
In a message dated 01/30/2001 10:13:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ironbrigade2wisc@juno.com writes:
<< Anybody out there?
Cathy >>
Hi, Cathy.....we are 'at rest' I guess. Do you have a fenian ancestor to
share with the group?
What do you know of your ancestors?
BTW, welcome to the group. :)
Janice
Boston
Hi List,
Thanks for the summary, Michael.
My great-great grandfather's obituary states that he was "compelled" to leave Ireland in 1848 because of his involvement in the Young Ireland Rising. Can anyone tell me more about what "compelled" might have meant. Did he have to hide in the woods and sneak aboard a ship - in fear for his life? Would his wife have been able to travel with him? He was from County Kilkenny. What port would he have run to?
He immediately shows up in 1848 in Charleston, South Caro
Hello,
I too have been subscribed for several months.
How many people are currently subscribed to the list?
Perhaps we could have a discussion on ways to increase participation?
Assuming that it would be acceptable within the charter of the group, of
course.
Michael
In a message dated 01/20/2001 4:54:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Seamus_M_OTrehy@webtv.net writes:
<<
The U.S. Fenian movement went in another direction, so to speak; Canada.
At Cincinnati, In 1865 a convention decided that an invasion of Canada,
would be a formidable move in the ultimate goal of freeing Ireland from
English tyranny. June 1866, found Gen. John O'Neill and 800 men
crossing the Niagara and capturing Fort Erie. This force was soon
routed by U.S. troops, and the force retreated in the
Hi Kathleen and Janice
This list has very little activity. I tried to promote some about a year ago
but didn't have much luck. There was activity for a few days but then it died
out.
I am of the understanding that the list was started as a place for people
with interest in the Fenian's to post and share information.
I posted a couple of notice of Fenian Meetings from the old San Francisco
Papers.
I think your wish is that of most Irishmen. We all would like to think our
families were patriots and maybe
It's good to hear that there are many other lists which discuss aspects of
Irish history, past or modern. Please use them for that purpose. This list
is for people with an interest in the Fenian movement, as a very narrow
special interest group. Let's keep it that way.