Hello Barrie,
I still don't understand what link you are talking about. The links for the
1841 Deaths are like:
1841D4-E-V-0177.tif
How does this link to two different scans?
If you search for the name 'Gordon' in December 1841 no links to the scans
are shown.
I am obviously missing something!
Regarding:
> Is it possible to assume that for the years/quarters specified in
> http://www.bms.me.uk/BMD/Special_Instructions.htm that the
> transformation rules have been applied to all transcriptions and there
Brian
The original email was saying a couple of things.
1. Adopt a standard file naming format (as your Syndicate does)
2. Use the files names as generated by speedBMD and WinBMD.
My assumption being if using WinBMD the full year and letter format would be used.
Unless I am missing something we are going to have problems when we start transcribing 1937 onwards
if using speedBMD since file names will be the same for both 1837/1937 transcription etc. This
applies particularly so in the event of the sam
Quoting Brian Smart :
> Hello Barrie,
> Surely all you have to do is decide which of the options the current system
> finds is the right one. I use a look up table. If you did the same you would
> know which one is correct as the surname being searched is available from
> the search criteria.
That is exactly what the offsets table does, where required.
It only comes into play where there is potential ambiguity in one or both
sides.
With more modern scans, where we avoid ra
Brian,
Actually what you are suggesting would be very difficult to program,
particularly to do so consistently and accurately.
There is a world of difference between what you are doing, which is
knowing what the answer should be then checking whether the result looks
reasonable, compared with what you are suggesting could be programmed,
which is to work out from the result what adjustment may or may not have
been applied.
In view of this we have adopted the much more straightforward approach
of telling t
Melda
I can't recollect ever see a FreeBMD document relating to the rule for adding 1000.
No, personally as I see it the files should not be transcribed as you indicate but as:
1841D4-A-D-0166.tif should be transcribed as 1841D4A0166.BMD (or the appropriate letter A to D)
1841D4-A-D-1166.tif " " " as 1841D4A1166.BMD (or the appropriate
letter A to D) and
1841D4-E-V-0166.tif " " " as 1841D4E0166.BMD (or the appropriate
letter E to V)
Wh
Dave
I know I shouldn't ask as my argument could be shot in the foot.
My brain cells are not what they were regarding official convention pre WinBMD.
By official convention pre WinBMD did you mean files were to be named corresponding to actual scan
name or by the addition of 1000 etc?
Allan Raymond
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mayall"
To:
Sent: 14 December 2006 22:49
Subject: Re: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 d
Hi All
As a mater of interest Scan2 has never used the
+1000 in fact this is the first I have heard of it. Even with
winBMD V 4 you could use the Alpha option, and we have always used
it for the cases of multi registers in the same event quarter. And
even for single registers where the scans had the Alpha shown.
At 01:33 PM 14/12/2006, you wrote:
>We have done a number of quarter with the +1000 numbering system prior
>to the requirement for alpha letters in the file names. Am I mi
Co-ordinator Colleagues
A further polite reminder due to continuing problems with duplicate registrations. Over the last
month I have had to deal with a number of instances of volunteers setting up duplicate
registrations. This causes additional work for both myself and hence eventually Co-ordinators when
they have to delete/enter volunteers details into their Syndicates.
New volunteers to FreeBMD register via the registration page at:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/join?coord=******
Our computer boffins hav
If a user has been removed they cannot use the old submitter id.
However, they can register again using the old submitter id.
Barrie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
> Jeff Coleman
> Sent: 11 December 2006 09:14
> To: FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-L@rootsweb.com; Allan Raymond
> Subject: Re: Prevention of Duplicate Registrations by Volunteers
>
> I had a recent situation where I was contacted by someone wh
My regular reminder to Syndicate Co-ordinators about the ongoing process to delete from the FreeBMD
database those volunteers who haven't uploaded any records even though they have been registered on
FreeBMD for 8 months or so.
Co-ordinators are advised in advance of any volunteer to be deleted from the database and given a
nominal two weeks in which to respond. (Note: Any Co-ordinator who doesn't wish to receive the
advance notification is quite welcome to advise me of this requirement, in fact it saves m
Hello Barrie,
Surely all you have to do is decide which of the options the current system
finds is the right one. I use a look up table. If you did the same you would
know which one is correct as the surname being searched is available from
the search criteria.
Regards
Brian Smart
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Archer
> Barrie
> Sent: 17 December 2006 00:58
> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com
>
Hello Barrie,
When I first started my syndicate I made everybody enter both the Source and
scan filename in the header. I was advised by the management that this was
incorrect and that only the Source should be entered. As a result I stopped
insisting that this be included.
Regarding the Source entry, I check every file to make sure that it is
included and is correct.
Regards
Brian Smart
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@root
----- Original Message -----
From: "Archer Barrie"
To:
Sent: 18 December 2006 00:15
Subject: RE: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 deaths
Precisely the point! I have now included the adjustment data for 1840
and 1841 from the information that you provided me so that after the
next update the correct scan should be located.
Barrie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syn
Jeff
I'm assuming your query is unrelated to "Prevention of Duplicate Registrations by Volunteers"?
I'm assuming you are referring to the deletion of volunteers who registered quite a while ago
(nominally 8 months) and never uploaded any records prior to their deletion?
In the latter case the appropriate Co-ordinator would normally have been consulted prior to removal.
It is quite exceptional for a volunteer to be deleted if I knew beforehand they were going to
transcribe for a Syndicate in the near futu
The Twelve Days of a Genealogy Christmas
On the twelfth day of Christmas,
My true love gave to me,
Twelve census searches,
Eleven printer ribbons,
Ten e-mail contacts,
Nine headstone rubbings,
Eight birth and death dates,
Seven town clerks sighing,
Six second cousins,
Five coats of arms,
Four GEDCOM files,
Three old wills,
Two CD-Roms,
And a branch in my family tree.
Best wishes,
This is an official convention that dates from the days before WinBMDm
-----Original Message-----
From: "Allan Raymond"
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:30:49
To:
Subject: Re: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 deaths
Melda
I can't recollect ever see a FreeBMD document relating to the rule for adding 1000.
No, personally as I see it the files should not be transcribed as you indicate but as:
1841D4-A-D-0166.tif should be transcribed as
Hi Brian
My original concerns are at:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/FREEBMD-SYNDICATES/2003-07/1058440261 (Naming Files Uploaded to
FreeBMD dated 17 Jul 2003 sent via Syndicates List).
Allan Raymond
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Smart"
To: ; "FreeBMD Syndicate-List"
Sent: 14 December 2006 16:18
Subject: RE: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 deaths
Hello Allan,
I am sorry b
Apologies to the list for lack of clarity.
Volunteer registered in June 2005, did not upload any transcription.
Volunteer was removed from volunteers list end of March 2006.
Volunteer registered again November 2006.
It appears from Allan's reply that had she wished she could have used the
same submitter id, but in fact she chose not to.
More detail of this case given to Allan off list.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Raymond"
To:
Jeff,
Please embedded comments.
Barrie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
> Jeff Coleman
> Sent: 18 December 2006 10:34
> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 deaths
>
> Upload Report already lists the first entry, page number,
> year and quarter
> for every scan file.
You mean transcription file not scan file.
> How realistic would it
I have mentioned on a couple of other occasions my personal concerns about inconsistencies in file
names, but not necessarily including the particular sort of instance below.
The problem mentioned below regarding two scans showing against the search for Gordon (lower case
not upper case) appears to have arisen where the file name does not accord with the scan name.
For example:
1841D4-E-V-0166.tif is the correct scan for the file containing Gordon.
1841D4-E-V-1166.tif " " " "
Hello Allan,
I now understand the original email, thanks for the explanation.
What I don't understand is why the system does not select the correct one!
It may need a programming change but it can't be that difficult as I check
the adjustment of the filenames against the first letter of the data to know
whether the adjustment is correct when I am sent completed files.
Regards
Brian Smart
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@root
Although it does not make any difference to the argument, it is actually
the +PAGE values that cause the problem (although in this case they are
the same as in the filename).
Actually, having the right value in the +PAGE (and filename) would still
mean that two scans would be found, however the correct scan would be
first. The only way to stop two scans being found would be to put the
initial letter in the filename, e.g. 1841D4G0166.
I assume the problem being addressed is that the transcription filename
Hello Allan,
I am sorry but I do not understand what the original concern relates to so I
can comment on your concern!
Regards
Brian Smart
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com
> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Allan
> Raymond
> Sent: 14 December 2006 15:26
> To: FreeBMD Syndicate-List
> Subject: Fw: GRO page connection all wrong for GORDON 1841 deaths
>
>
> I have mentioned on a couple of other occasions my personal
> concerns about in
Hello Barry,
While having a look at some quarters to see if a standard format has been
used for the filenames, I noticed that the system to download the
information on uploaded files does not sort on filenames when you request
that option. Have a look at Births December 1857 by the John Slann
syndicate. It seems to be sorting on the numbers at the end of the filename
with no regard for the letter.
Looking at a range of uploaded files it is easy to see that different
formats of uploaded filenames have been
I had a recent situation where I was contacted by someone who had
volunteered before but never submitted a transcription, and was then removed
from the volunteers list some months later.
Am I right in thinking that such a person would not be able to use the old
submitter ID because it would have been removed from the system?
Jeff