He ranks a bit pre-medieval, but regarding "Old King Cole"...
Back in October, skeptic Stewart Baldwin stated that Old King Cole "was
based on the pseudohistorical king Coel Hen, who was said (falsely) to have
been the maternal grandfather of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great."
He more-or-less dismissed his existence. He noted that "it has been claimed
that the genealogies going back to Coel Hen were based on reliable oral
tradition, but that argument was persuasively undermined by Molly Miller in
h
Can someone tell me how to pronounce the surname of Robert de GIMEGES,
found in VCH Huntingdonshire, died before 1210-12? Thanks, Dolly in
Billings, Montana
Richard Barney posted:
>I am another non-expert trying to find my roots. At one time in the 1930' s
>there was a rather complete (true?) record but it was lost. I am trying to
>locate a Lord Alfred Heneley that must have lived during the 19th century in
>as much as my grandfather was named for him. (grandfathers last name was
>Wilson). My Grandfather had a general store in Norrie, wisconsin. in the
>late 1800's.
Under normal circumstances, when a man is named "Lord Firstname Lastn
Mark anthony Rodriguez wrote:
>I had previously posted this note on the Prodigy Genealogy Board which is
>quite good. Unfortunately, no one had a reply this time.
>
>Does Martin Luther have any descendants extant? Are there any male line
>decendants using a variation of Luther as there surname?
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From: mpalmer@netcom.com (Michael Palmer)
Subject: Martin Luther's Descedants (was: Alt-Lutheraner/Old Lutherans)
Message
Steven Benedict Lavallee just posted :
>I recently received a copy of a recently-published book,
>LES COMTES DE TOULOUSE ET LEURS DESCENDANTS, LES TOULOUSE-LAUTREC,
> by Jacques-Ren'e Magn'e and Jean-Robert Dizel (Editions Christian,
> Paris, 1992).
>
>It traces the male-lines from Fulgaud (Foucault), who lived ca. 830,
>up to the present time. I would guess it is still available
>(Editions Christian, 5 rue Alphonse-Baudin, 75011 PARIS).
>It has a rather impressive bibliography.
Sounds like this could b
I have found several corrections with the lines that I have previously
posted. The most important relate to two families, Osorio and Guzman, and
the families with which they intermarried.
Guzman: (only marriages to be corrected are shown)
Rodrigo Nunez de Guzman, m. Goto Gonzalez de Lara
Pedro Ruiz de Guzman m. Mafalda ______
Nuno Perez de Guzman
Pedro Nunez de Guzman m. Urraca Garcia de Villamayor
Juan Perez de Guzman
1. I had concludes that the marriage of Rodrigo Nunez to Goto Gonzalez was
chronologi
The following material is excerpted from Homer Beers James Genealogy, Vol 2.
MORTIMER (MORTEMER)
The family of Mortemer derives its name from Mortemer (Mortuo-Mari) in Pays-de-Caux at the source of the Eaulne River. The castle of St. Victor-en-Caux was the chief barony of the family, which is said to have sprung from a marriage of Walter de St. Mart
in and a niece of the Duchess Gonnor. It was possessed by Roger de Mortemer in 1054, on which date he was one of the commanders of Duke William's forces at
I must have missed something. I thought there was an El Cid descent
through Louis VIII's wife Blanche of Castile. I'd also like to know who
the "delightfully nasty" Drahomira is.
Jeff Chipman
jchipman@mail.orion.org
Jim Stevens posted:
> I ran accross another couple possibilities in my research.
>
> "Colonial and Revolutionary Lineages in America" shows him as the son of
>an unnamed daughter of Ivar, the son of Ragnar Lodbrok. His father is
>given as "The Earl of the Hebrides".
Unless I miss my guess, this "Colonial and Revolutionary Lineages in
America" that you've cited several times is the huge multi-volume work
published by the American Historical Company between 1930 and 1968. Am I
right?
In a previous article, fmitchel@amug.org (Frank Mitchell) says:
>In article <49l808$phb@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, taf2@po.CWRU.Edu (Todd A.
>Farmerie) wrote:
>
>> >She was daughter of Edward's first wife (I don't have her name handy) and
>> >full sister of Aethelstan. However, she married him in 926, only a year
>> >before her husband's early decease in 927, and there are no known
>> >descendants. (Olaf Cuaran could hardly have been born after 922/3 (my
>
>In my notes I have Edward's first wife as Ecgwyn
In article julius@vir.com (Juliusz A. Dabrowski)
writes:
> I am looking for records of a count/graf von Rinheim or von
> Rheingraf marrying a Polish lady possibly by the name of Prawda in
> the pre-XIIIth century middle ages. I have found records of the
> Rheingrafs but none of their wives as for Rinheim I have found no
> records at all. The Rheingraf or Rinheim crest should bear a
> lion. All help will be greatly appreciated. Even if it is
> confirmation of what I know so far.
Tracey Robinson (THR925@AOL.COM) wrote:
: I'm directing this to Todd Farmerie re: his response to this thread on
: 95-12-01 at 02:47:34 EST. Specifically, regarding Edmund II "Ironside" and
: his wife Ealdgyth, I have become confused about what sons have been referred
: to as possibly having been twins born about 1015. Could you please
: elucidate? I show only Edward Aetheling as son of this marriage; who is the
: brother and did this brother have descendants?
: On another subject, and at the risk of as
Glad this is of interest - but there's not much more I can add. The cornish
language is a very specialised study - place names ditto!
By early, Padel means 'pre-Middle Cornish' - so I'm not much wiser, except
perhaps this = Middle English, i.e medieval, post conquest.
As to the date of the name, what do you think this means?
Once the name of the place exists, people might use this as a surname at
various dates afterwards
Good luck
Having hit on most of the significant corrections that I have
available, I will take this oportunity to tie up some loose ends. Beware!
All of what follows represents my own analysis of the 15th & 16th century
sources, and not research of modern historians as has been presented in the
past. I may well be entirely erroneous, since I do not have available the
contemporary charter evidence that serves as the basis for correction of
these pedigrees, and can only perform a superficial analysis.
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One line from Helen of Galloway to Charlemagne is as follows:
1. Charlemagne King (2 Apr 747 - 28 Jan 814)
& Hildegard of Linzgau Countess (758 - 30 Apr 783)
2. Louis I "the Pious" of Aquitaine King (Aug 778 - 20 Jun 840)
& Ermengarde of Hesbaye (Circa 778 - 3 Oct 818)
3. Lothaire I of Italy King (795 - 29 Sep 855)
& Ermengard of Orleans (Circa 800 - 20 Mar 851)
4. Louis II le Jeune Holy Roman Emper (822 - 12 Aug 875)
& Engelberge of Alsace (Circa 826 - 890)
5.
In a previous article, steppi@baldar.clark.net () says:
> Which Wladislav of what country had a daughter named
>Richilda who married Alfonso VII of Castile? My notes
>say he was Wladislav II, King of Poland, who died in 1159,
>but this does not fit in with with the scanty info available
>to be. The closest I've come is Vladislav II, King of
>Bohemia, who ruled from 1158! Actually, I hope it IS him -
>I do so long to add the delightfully nasty Drahomira to my
>tree. Cheers, Judith
>
At 11:30 PM 12/12/95 GMT, you wrote:
Dear friends,
>
> Scottish Rhyme of the Purvis Family, vassals of the Earl of March,
>who's name was given to the Burgh of Purveshaugh, Berwickshire, Scotland. Per
>vias rectas, by right ways: "Befa, befa, what'er befa, there'll aye be a gawk
>in Purvis-ha."
I find it most interesting that I received the translation about 24 hours
before I received the question!! Yes, this is obviously not Gaelic but
Scottish English, and the translation I received yesterday wa
Tracey Robinson wrote:
>
>On another subject, and at the risk of asking a question to which the answer
>is obvious to all but me, what does the abbreviation "dsp." stand for?
>
>Tracey Robinson
In trying to verify some old claims of nobility,
I discovered that some of my Magna Carta baron ancestors
were entitled to the epithet "d.s.p.", which I even6tually
discovered is a Latin acronym for "died without issue".
Their children must have been very fortunate to survive
as their parents had no
In a previous article, rgsuser@aztec.asu.edu (RALPH G. SMITH) says:
>
>Does anyone know of research on the descendants of Rodrigo Diaz
>de Vivar, known as "El Cid Campeador"? He was, of course, the
>warrior who wrested Valencia from the Moors during the 1000s. I
>understand that the name "Diaz" at that time simply meant "child
>of Diego"
>
In terms of descendants, he had three children, a son who died in early
manhood without issue, and two daughters. Jimena was married as a child to
the prince of Aragon
See CJB:
On a related topic, I yesterday received a copy of the Charles Evans
festschrift from the Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy.
This contains a paper by D. H. Kelley on "The House of Aethelred" which reviews
in great detail the arguments for all doubtful stages of the descent of Harold
II from Aethelred I which I posted yesterday, and comes out in favour of
accepting the descent. It also contains some additional proposals on this
family, e.g. the relationship of St Dunstan, t
Hi All,
I am looking for information on the Sosa's of Castille. They served the
Spanish court in Valladolid and were also present in Cordoba. Any
information would be appreciated. Please e-mail Alsos@aol.com
Thanks
Alfred
Chris Bennett wrote on Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:50:52 PST
the following:
>Edward the Atheling, b 1016, s of Edmund II Ironside, king 1016, >and
Ealdgyth,widow of Sigeferth, lived most of his life in exile >in Hungary
and Russia, d 1057 shortly after his return to >England to be accepted as
heir of Edward the Confessor, m c1045 >Agatha, prob. d of Liudolf,
Margrave of west Friedland and >uterine elder br of the Emperor Henry III,
b c1025 d after 1070,
The article, "The Kings of Wes