I just noticed that Douglas Richardson has posted that Rev. Peter
Bulkeley and his sisters and niece are descended fron Sir Nicholas
de Beke and his wife.
I am surmising that he is using the supposed marriage of Randall
Grosvenor to Margaret, the supposed dtr. of Randall Mainwaring of
Caringham, which would have this descent through Margaret Savage.
Jacobus' points out that the Margarets in this family either have
spouses other than a Grosvenor or are not shown in Ormerod or other
sources as existing
Douglas Richardson wrote:
>
> Hi Kay:
>
> I based my recent posting on an article on the Grosvenor family
> which appeared in the periodical, Herald and Genealogist, 5
> (1870): 322-326, 499-507. The author in question appeared to
> accept the Grosvenor descent from the Mainwaring family as
> valid, citing a Harleian Manuscript pedigree as his source. The
> Mainwaring connection would give the Bulkeley family a descent
> from Sir Nicholas de Beke.
I am familiar with that article, as was Jacobus. In his
The Arderne family sprang from Northamptonshire and does not have an
actual connection with the Arden families of Warwickshire.
Am just returned from a trip and will try to see what I can do to help
the posters on Arderne and Arden when I have had a chance to catch my
breath.
Kay Allen AG
Kay Robinson wrote:
>
> On 7 Jul 2000 20:24:08 -0700, kavalentine@hotmail.com (kimberley
> valentine) wrote:
>
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I was wondering if someone knows if there is still an ancestral home for the
I would also refer the Gentle Reader to the 1990 or 1991 edition of Weis
& Sheppard's Ancestral Roots, p. 111, Line 98A:
"10A. Margaret Savage; m. (1) John Maxfield; m (2) Randle le Mainwaring,
3rd son of Randle of Over Peover, purch. Carincham, co., Chester, sett.
23 Hen IV; ob. 13 Edw. IV (1474). The (2) mar. lacks proof.
***
Line breaks due to inadequate proof of parents of 10B.
***
10B. Randle Mainwaring of Carincham,..."
So this line was in trouble,
The Complete Peerage is your best bet. Check Collins against CP.
Other sources you should acquire are George Marshall, James Beach
Whitmore, and Geoffrey Barrow. All titled eithe The Genealogist's Guide
or Continuation to the Genealogist's Guide. These will help you find
sources to search for the surnames which you are researching.
You should be able to find these through the LDS Family History Center
system.
Kay Allen AG
Jon Althouse wrote:
>
> I'm quite new to genealogy and completely new to medie