Many times you will find a term defined in a specialty dictionary
http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/search/dict-search.html
However, I also like to check alternative dictionaries at
http://www.onelook.com. Sometimes the meaning becomes clearer in different
contexts. For example:
Word of the day (found in the Richards article
http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~macaulay/papers/richards_2000.pdf, which I posted
yesterday in a message without a header [bad Ann])
autochthonous -- originating where it is found, in
>Listers,
>
>Perhaps someone can answer my question. A number people on the
>WHITNEY list are discussing DNA testing to confirm relationship to a
>common ancestor. All the discussions I've seen seem to center on
>inheritance of the Y chromosome from the father's lineage.
>
>My husband is a WHITNEY descendant through his mother, via her father.
>
>Would testing *prove* my husband's WHITNEY ancestry?
>
>Thanks,
>Theola Walden Baker
>
Theola:
About the Y chromosome. Do some reading on it. I suggest the
This page is not dated, but I believe it's current. Drs. Harry Ostrer and
Michael Hammer are conducting a DNA study of migration patterns and
historical communities. They are recruiting from members of the Jewish
Genealogical Society, but some of the points they make are of interest to all
of us. They say "This window for studying Jewish history from the genetic
record is closing as rapid changes occur in Jewish demography." That applies
to many other ethnic communities as well. I also found the layou
At 08:20 PM 1/24/01 +0000, Alan Savin wrote:
>This could well turn into a landmark study.<<
That, of course, is not the objective. But if we can help BYU refine the
marker analysis for their project and it provides significant value then we
will be happy to have helped.
>>Incase you do not realise I have been signed up to the Wells list for a
few months now to follow your progress.<<
Ahh. YOU are the alan@savin.org. You are among about 150 I know are there
but out of whom I have not gotten responses t
DNA banking has a number of different benefits...
1) People with large estates like to have their DNA available for testing after
they die. This can be used to either help protect their estate, or for convenience
to those that may need to prove their beneficiary standing. Many times the DNA's
location, and consent to testing, will be mentioned in the Last Will and
Testament.
2) Having DNA available from members of the family that have had cancer helps to
calculate probabilities of predisposition to the sa
Native American Genealogy
Only The Names Remain, Volume 4: Goingsnake District - Sandi Garrett. This
volume,
linking the Drennen Roll and the Guion Miller Applications, is a valuable
addition to the
growing body of genealogical works devoted to researching Cherokee ancestry.
Article 9
of the Treaty of August 8, 1846, between the United States government and
the Cherokee
Nation called for "a fair and just settlement of all moneys due the
Cherokees under the
Treaty of 1835." The Drennen Roll was compiled in 1
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if DNA testing can determine what your birth father's
ancestry is? I'm new to the list. It may have been decussed before. I don't know.
I would like info. tho' if possible. Thank you, Wanda
LarkinP@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks to the 'skeptic' for pointing out that there are different degrees and
> many
> types of proof.
>
> "Scientific" proof has other requirements, (capable of experimental
> replication is just one)
> "Genealogical" proof is more a 'preponderance of the evidence'
Say can you post or send me the letter that you sent potential test
subjects? Yours seems to have gotten good response or maybe there's alot
of momma's out there.
At 04:14 PM 1/22/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Yesterday I received the final test results for the 1st phase of my Mumma
>Surname DNA testing project. The results are shown from 30 participants
>along with my conclusions. They can be viewed at:
>
>http://www.mumma.org/DNA.htm
>
>Doug Mumma
>
>
>==============================
>Visit Ancestry.com
Dammit! I thought preserving my head in liquid nitrogen was enough. Now I
have to put mom and dad too!
At 08:51 AM 1/30/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>For me it is a matter of showing others my ancestors were who our family
>says they were. The government policy for American Indians has always been
>-- and in many ways -- still is -- genocide. First it was simplye kille
>us. Then it is "assimilate" them. And NOW it is "ignore the assimilated
>ones, and pit CDIB carded Indians against those uneligible for C
Hi All
Some questions have arisen lately about the non-standard nature of the
alleles reported by Family Tree DNA . I appreciate these questions as they
give me an opportunity to answer the questions and provoke, I'm sure, a
lively round of exchanges which will be to the betterment of us all.
Our studies reporting of the allele results is somewhat non--standard. In
fact there is no standard for Y chromosome testing, which I expect is some
years away. Let me explain it this way:
On the female side
Thanks, Linda Chesson, for that very moving (and very typical) story
about your grandmother. In my posting I inadvertently forgot to
mention the thousands of Indian children who were taken from their
parents, or orphaned, and ended up bereft of their natural culture.
The "lucky" ones were adopted (a popular saying of the day was
"kill the Indian to save the man" !). Others ended up basically as
house servants (slaves) in white homes, even at the tender ages of
three and four. For their descendant
I agree with John German that DNA testing can provide
direction when the paper trails stop. It, therefore is a
new research tool of incomparable value, though it will
never be the answer to all of our questions.
In fact if Pence is on this list, I can show him a valuable
use of DNA testing in a Pence-related line, i.e. the descendants
of Mary Pence and John Nicholas Link of Augusta County, VA.
DNA testing could show the relationships, if any, between the
LINCK/LINK families of Baden and Hessen, German
You would need permission of a Judge in that jurisdiction but since you won't
have the proof that you are the only legal heir the judge should not grant
your request ,in my humble opinion. The grave of a man that claimed in life
to be Jesse James was opened in Texas last year
(My oldest daughter lives in Granbury TX)
http://www.granbury.com/~ancestor/z/biog/JamesJesseExhumationOrder.htm
http://www.virtualtexan.com/news/doc/1047/1:VIRTEX4/1:VIRTEX40707100.html
Without a court exhumation order one could
In a message dated 01/25/2001 2:02:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ORWells@bigfoot.com writes:
> For a time all countries were blocking such work. Now we see one caving to
> let "R&D" happen. IMHO it will only be a matter of time before someone
> tries it, even if secretly, just to see if they can. No amount of laws and
> regulation is going to prevent it.
Out of lurk mode for one comment...in my personal experience...if we can do a
thing we WILL do a thing. It's only a matter of time until we are a
>===== begin text of Richard Pence's message posted to soc.genealogy.methods:
>The author said that Prince Philip was a "descendant" of the last
>Czar of Russia (I don't think so, am I wrong?)
Richard, you're sort of right -- Philip *is* a descendant of the last Czar
of Russia, but that last Czar was Peter the Great, who changed his title
from Czar to Emperor ("Imperator" in Russian) on 20 October/2 November
1721. The author of that article used the wrong title for Nicholas II.
The
I will take this one from Mr. Bob Durham ...
Hi Lois, we have had some experience collecting samples from people that have
been deceased for 50 to 70 year. 200 years might be easier to do, and would be an
interesting task. Our experience has dictated the following procedure ...
1) Contact the cemetery with the name and date of death. They will pull the
records and give you an opening and closing cost (usually $300 to $400).
3) You may need to replace a vault, if the person was buried in one. This cost
cou
Hello,
I am a newcomer on this list. So please forgive me, if my question sounds stupid.
I found out, and possibly it4s only occasionally, that within my family sometimes
even very far relatives have a certain similarity. As all of them are porters of
the same name, I am wondering, if there is a possibility, that the male Y
chromosom is responsible for this effect. Am I totally wrong or has anybody made
a similar observation.
Regards
Rolf from Germany
>Let me cite an example of why I think there is value in the current
>technology and promise for near term improvement and why I think it is, and
>will become even more so, a valid genealogical tool and therefore the
>results can be constured as genealogy.
>Over the years I have established a database of some 6,000 researchers of
>various Wells families. We know that there were at least 20 separate and
>apparently unrelated Wells founders of American families in the Colonies
>from as early as 1620. Other
Hi,
One more question, it would diffinetly determine if your genes were all of
the same family, wouldn't it? Our family intermarried so much, I'm wondering if
my birth father was related to us. Thanks a lot....Wanda
"Orin R. Wells" wrote:
> At 11:23 PM 1/24/01 -0500, Wanda Shepherd wrote:
>
> > Do you believe if enough families participate, that a person could tell
> what their Birth family is? <<
>
> This would depend on the number of samples from the different families. I
> think we will be able t
In reply to your commment re restrictive DNA reporting, I want to say that
I too, have been some troubled by non-standard reporting. It is NOT a good
thing to have ANY kind of lab-imposed limits upon reporting, and non-standard
reporting appears to me an excellent euphemism for "partial reporting".
AND.......I have just spent the last hour drafting what I hope was a lucid
reply to one of the Genealogy Lists to which I belong in re Genealogy
INFORMATION (names, dates etc., never mind the DNA!) being re
At 08:29 PM 1/23/01 +0000, Alan Savin wrote:
>>Richard Pence's message posted to soc.genealogy.methods:
>>And, thirdly, it seems to me if the technology does take us to the
>>level where we can determine whether this person or that person was
>>an ancestor of a given person then we are in the world of a new
>>science that is emphatically NOT genealogy.
>
>But would it not still fit most people's defintion of genealogy, and
>therefore still is?
I come down on the side of Alan here. Any method of showing
Ann,
Richard has indeed pointed out several errors in his message, which I think I
can clear up.
First of all, concerning Prince Phillip of England and the remains of the
Romonov family:
What was found in the graves in Siberia included a family unit, consisting of
both parents and three daughters. The age of the remains, their location and
the ages of the people at the time of their death was consistent with them being
the Romonov family. This was confirmed by DNA testing of the mitochondria.
Prince P
Some really dull reading unless you plan on patenting a human This is the
latest from the US Patent Office as of Jan 5 2001
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2001_register&docid=
01-322-filed
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2001_register&docid=
01-323-filed
Here is the patent search site
http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
~Paula~
At 11:23 PM 1/24/01 -0500, Wanda Shepherd wrote:
> Do you believe if enough families participate, that a person could tell
what their Birth family is? <<
This would depend on the number of samples from the different families. I
think we will be able to identify the Wells line in the case of the Males.
Where we will be led on the maternal side is anyone's guess right now.
>>Or their birth father?<<
I doubt it unless the father just happens to participate and we get lucky.
I also can not tell if in the
In response to Vance Hawkins comments, and I hope this isn't too
far off the DNA subject.....
I understand your frustration and anger over the truly absurd criteria for
registration with many tribes, including Cherokee. Although my lineage
is a matter of record, I'm having a rough time coming up with the
hard-copy documentation. That's why I'm having my DNA tested.
To understand the emotional distress this situation puts a lot of us in,
it's helpful to look at it in a historical context.
Most of you