On Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:51 PM, DNACousins@aol.com wrote:
>
>You also alluded to a population bottleneck -- I've read several papers about
>this, and the current thinking is that European populations are so similar to
>each other that they probably all descend from a fairly small number of
>people. I can't find my references right now, but I'll keep my
>eyes open.
>
Here's a reference to the European population bottleneck...
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,43231,00.html
Actually, Eurasia is a somewhat more constrictive term when used by
geographers, particularly British geographers, who usually mean that
part of Europe eastward from the eastern Polish border to the western
border of China encompassing Russia, The Ukraine, Mongolia and the
various -stans (Uzbekistan, Kazahkstan, etc.) of the central Asian
steppes. The division of Siberia in this scheme is wholly arbitrary as,
of course, is the use of the Ural range as the Europe-Asia division
line. Germany and the Balkan st
In a message dated 07/19/01 7:38:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
kduerinck@core.com writes:
> Ann, amazon.com has the paperback abridged version (which I own) for about
> US$27.65. But in checking it out, the paperback is 428 pages, while the
> hardback at US$205 is 1088 pages. Santa, I would like the hardbound for
> Christmas, please--add it to my list.
>
Your chances might be better if Santa shops for used books -- I have used
abebooks.com and bibliofind.com from time to time.
In a message dated 07/03/01 6:22:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BWGood@aol.com
writes:
> What am I missing here? I went to the Calculator site, entered the DSY
> numbers, but when I got to the page for entering alleles, the numbers
> offered
> are higher than my numbers. I assume that GeneTree and Family Tree cannot
> be
> compared to each other?
Family Tree DNA has a combination of public and proprietary DSY markers, and
their report lists what they call "normalized" values, not the actual number
Ann & Bill:
We are still seriously looking at this; right now we are
leaning toward known, non-proprietary alleles and STR's
as elements of the surname relational data (pun intended)
While this is admittedly limited, it gets the ball moving
forward...
Bob Durham
Agenus, Inc.
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From: DNACousins@aol.com [mailto:DNACousins@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:52 PM
To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-Chromosome Databases
In a message dated 07/17/01 10:41:53 A
If an experiment is done properly, it should be repeatable. The technology of
generating this kind of information has been worked out and is highly reliable.
Still, there is always the chance of an error creeping in. I would hope that
some of the more unusual findings would be retested. In fact, if I were
overseeing a project such as one of these, I would insist on retesting some of
my more interesting or unusual lines.
Dick
DNACousins@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 07/08/01 8:33:25 PM Pacific Da
Hi,
I talked to Ugo back about a year ago, and as mine was a special case, he was
interested.......I'm hunting for my birth father, also have medical reasons...Wanda
Orin Wells wrote:
>In the case of the Kincaid Clan there may be a problem with having a single,
>what do they call it, haplogroup? If my understanding of medieval
practices are
>true, that very often the people of the village took on the surname of the
lord
>of the manor (as did many black slaves here in the US when freed) - after
all,
>he owned the land - they all worked and fought for him under his banner -
then
>you could very well have a plethora of haplotypes within the clan. And since
>the poor tend to reproduce more
Those of you who do hear the program - if it goes as follows, it is already in
printed form:
"We can sometimes identify the actual man or woman whose personal name became a
surname several centuries ago. A thirteenth-century Oddi de Gasegill is likely to
be the ancestor of all the Oddys/Oddies, and evidence suggests that Dionisia, a
formidable woman who once lived in Linthwaite in the Colne Valley, is the
ancestor of the Dysons. If we can trace a family tree back to the Middle Ages and
if we map the distri
At 01:59 AM 7/2/01 -0400, Bonner, Gregg wrote:
>I would like to know how one knows there is a non-paternity event arising
in the 1500s.<<
If records exist, sometimes this is revealed in the Parish records. I have
seen this.
To start with we are not silly enough to believe that there is only one
ancestor for all the Wells running around. There were a pot load of them
in England even in the 1500s and before. Our project is trying to make
some sense out of the ones we can identify and then seeing if we c
Peter,
I hope you're right! I'll be very interested in the results of your surname
research along with the others. This is a new frontier in learning about the past
without having to rely on the possible misinterpretations of historians - God
bless 'em. I hope that we don't misinterpret the DNA, too. But tell me this:
how come there are a gazillion Stewart's (Stuart - spelling interchangeable)
around when the male line of the originators of the name died out well over one
hundred years ago? There are n
In a message dated 07/10/01 6:58:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bhorne@juno.com
writes:
> All of the son's generation are dead.
Well, I'm afraid the DNA tests available today would not be able to help you
in this situation. The eighth generation male did not pass on his mtDNA or
his Y chromosome to the illegitimate daughter, and there are too many
generation gaps to pick up the kind of nuclear markers used for paternity
testing.
Jen,
thanks for participating in the Molecular Genealogy Research Project at BYU.
My name is Ugo Perego and I am in charge of the sample collections for the
project. I am writing to you on this list so that others may receive
correct information about the process of collecting blood samples and more
specifically about the Orange County collection.
In order to collect samples we rely heavily on local organizers. This means
that wherever there is a genealogical group willing to host a sample
collection
Greetings Leo,
You were asking of possible web hosting opportunities for your DNA
project. There are two groups that I am aware of which advertise free web
sites. I have not used them, so I cannot say how well they do the job, but
you can investigate them if you wish. For the privilege of using their
free hosting you must put up with their advertising banners that run across
the top of the screen. You are also limited in your page formatting with
the freebies. They are MyFamily.com and Geocitie
David, see my webpage on DNA storage methods which deals with 3 media: 1)
blood, 2) buccal swab, 3) hair: http://www.duerinck.com/archvdna.html
Hope it helps,
Kevin Duerinck
Des Plaines, Illinois
USA
http://www.duerinck.com
kduerinck@core.com
Hi..hate to be a party pooper..but how accurate are these tests? Has anyone
verified accuracy by comparing results from two labs? Can the results be
replicated?? Just curious....Bettie
Yaaaaaaaag!!!!
"Bonner, Gregg" wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion - let me try it again.
> For the following I will use the 2nd diagram (the one with all the ovals
> colored in) from here:
> http://www.mumma.org/DNA.htm
> A parsimony tree is a tree which is constructed in such a way as to minimize
> the number of mutations required to explain all the data. People generally
> like parsimony trees based on the argument that mutations are rare, and
> hence you will want to minimize the number of them that you
This is in a way true for rootsweb, or really pretty much any place.
Certainly at freepages, you can create the HTML locally and upload. They
have a nifty little file manager gizmo and upload utility. Of course, you
can edit online, if you really feel it necessary to remove that comma, etc.
And in principle, it should have no size restriction. I have frontpage, but
never use it because my page is designed more to be, like, here is the will,
here is the census record, here is the register report, etc.
I am
Thanks to Gregg for the explanation of projects and generations using the
Mumma project. Heavy stuff but this explanation was relatively easy to
follow.
Thanks
Anna Henderson Chavelle in Seattle
I'd appreciate greatly any information on the origins of the Penton surname.
I have not been able to find any definitive information. Thanks in
advance.
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I have published a very minimal personal genealogy web page at;
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At present it is very simple and unsophisticated. I have included my Oxford
Ancestors Y-Line DNA test results, and am hoping that someone, somewhere
with an identical haplotype number set, and that they will see my page and
make contact
with me.
Give me your opinions on the web page and tell me what I should and should
not have on it. This is just a simple personal web site provided at no extra
cost, b
I have to agree this results has also puzzled me. There has always been the
thought that Thomas 1735 could possibly have been a cousin, but the other
Moses line is pretty well documented (unless there was an "in family"
adoption which we are unaware of) so I assumed this was a probably mutation.
It sure gives us another possibility to look at, doesn't it? Thanks for all
of your support.
Joy
In a message dated 7/7/01 7:46:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
DNACousins@aol.com writes:
>
> I'm musing about