Anne Sprentz said:
"In my research, I have found that my last name has had several different
spelling variations. It is now Sprentz, but it was Princz for several
years and spelled that way by most relatives who came to the US. However,
I have found relatives in Hungary who have verified my ancestor as being a
relative and they have always and still do spell it Sprencz. This is very
important when researching in Hungary. Sprencz and Princz are two totally
different names. The relative I have found in th
In a message dated 4/22/04 12:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
csanki@kooee.com.au writes:
> our family name is supposedly
> CsankY, not csankI,
>
> Hi Sharon,
>
> Went thru some of my Nemes books and found slightly different spellngs than
> yours. I listed them below. Are any of these possibilities? If so, I can
> elaborate.
>
> Also listed a Heraldry website that makes reference to "protected names".
Csaky 1560 (?) ill. 1655 A Magyar Genealogia Structuraja, page 17
Csakanyi (herepei) 1100 "
My Hungarian Mother and her family insisted on serving spinach and eggs for
dinner on Holy Thursday.
It was simple...hard boiled eggs and fresh steamed spinach.
I have up dated it to an omelette which I fill with spinach and cream
cheese.
Does anyone know if this is a Hungarian tradition, an Eastern European one
or??
Elizabeth V. Cardinal
evc1369@comcast.net
Geza,
Yes, the issue arose in my mind because so much has been made over the last
century or two about distinguishing between pure Magyars and those who are
really of other ethnic backgrounds--German, Slovak, Croatian, etc., but
were only Magyarized." Of course there is no pure Magyar blood" going
back to the original tribes. It just occurred to me that it would be
interesting to learn how many who consider(ed) themselves Magyars could
really be traced to the early Magyar settlers. The reading I
I believe I am posting this to an email list that my father closely followed and some of you may be familiar with him. His did a lot of research into the history of the Banat region specifically tracing the Muth family line.
My father, John Muth passed away suddenly at his home in Columbus OH this weekend (April 25, 2004). Everything indicates that he suffered a massive heart attack. He was 69 years old.
He is survived by his mother Barbera (Elizabeth) and brother Michael, his two sons, Jon and Jeffrey
If anyone is researching a Maria Varga, born April 30, 1882 in Sirok Hungary, I would be interested in hearing from you.
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Researching:
Pallai, Palinkas, Gaspar, Rubi, Adam, Vazsily, Kriztian, Firkala, Plucsinsky, Dzurnak, Kupcik, Hozza, Lauf, Almassy, Marhevka, Potanko and Dinda in Hungary
Barber, Cummins, Pierce, Page, Van Alstine, Quackenbush, Stephens, Hargrave, Moffett, Sorrells, Cuthbertson, Lonon and Wilhoit from sea to shining sea
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<< If SASE means "Self Addressed Stamped Envelope" mail
> can only be sent from a country with its own stamps.
> People in Romania cannot mail an envelope back to you
> with stamps from North America. If you have a contact
> in Romania who can send you stamps, only then will
> that idea work.>>
Can you not use one of the internal stamps/coupons I often hear people talk
about?
If you can't then why would it offend someone if you sent them a self
addressed return envelope?
Elizabeth V. Cardinal
evc1369@
Correction,
Sorry, the Csanky Family was listed on Nagy Ivan's CD and not in the 1925-26
Nemesi Evkvnyv.
Joseph M. Nemeth
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] COA meaning
> In a message dated 4/22/04 12:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> csanki@kooee.com.au writes:
>
> > our family name is supposedly
> > CsankY, not csankI,
> >
> > Hi Sharon,
> >
> > Went thru some of my Nemes books and found s
Edith,
You are right, this is confusing. It says that the girl was born in 1872
and baptised in 1869. I hope someone else can explain this...
But look at it more carefully. The top line says "year, day and month" --
can't your data be regrouped so as to make more sense? What are in the
other columns, if any?
Geza
At 17:40 2004.04.24.Saturday, Edith Marino wrote:
>Dear List -
>
>I was just faxed a birth certificate and I'm confused. Could someone
>please tell me what the following means?
>
>
Just received info on where my husband's great uncle was born. Have some
of it figured out however don't know it all & would like to confirm the
rest. What I was sent is:
Fenges litka (not sure if it's one or 2 words)
Szabloce Megge ---- figure that's Szablocs Megye (a.k.a. county)
Maggar orszag --- think his one is Magyar orszag or Hungary country (bad
translation on my part)
*Massive* thanx in advance as this is a really huge break for me. Sure
beats the hemp lead, eh Joe?
Sheila
Be warned. Don't believe everything you find on that website.
Geza
At 19:39 2004.04.27.Tuesday, you wrote:
>I would like to draw everyone's attention to a website I just discovered:
>http://www.hunmagyar.org/hungary.htm.
>
>
>
>There is a great deal there which should be of interest, including history,
>ethnographic maps, and some of the best, most beautiful photos I have seen
>on the web. They include many of Hungarians in costume and dances from
>specific areas of Hungary.
>
>
>
>Janet
>
>
I read an article not too long ago...don't remember if it was on the net or
in the paper about some DNA testing now being done that can determine the
racial make up and even the ethnic makeup of different people.
If memory serves, it can identify only a small sampling of ethnic
backgrounds.
Perhaps a search on the net would yield some information.
Geza is correct in that we all descend from the first man and
woman.....though I think they were from the Garden of Eden and thus we are
all related some how o
Indeed there is a good one--Csardas, by Diane Pearson. You can find quite a
few copies of it at amazon.com. A native Hungarian gave a five-star review
of the book which follows several families from pre-World War I to the
Communist era. I read it years ago and am rereading it now. I appreciate
it far more now, having learned quite a bit about Hungary in the interim.
Janet
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From: Mrngstar2@aol.com [mailto:Mrngstar2@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 7:59 PM
To: HUNGARY-L
Elizabeth, you've intermingled answers from two
different people, creating something that was never
implied.
1)My answer was simply in response to your advise to
use a SASE.
2) Of course you can use international stamps/coupons
with an addressed return envelope if you choose.
3) I'd say an addressed envelope is acceptable. I
send one with every request for information I ask for
and if it's to someone within my own country, then I
will add a stamp. When I was in England last fall, I
returned with sev
Leslie,
The following is a quote from the website of the National Archives of Hungary
(Magyar Orszagos Leveltar), located in Budapest--go to
http://www.natarch.hu/mol_e.htm, click on Family History and then More Information, then Parish
Registers.
Quote
The microfilm collection of the National Archives of Hungary holds the
duplicates of parish registers from the localities of the present territory of
Hungary, created by the historical churches - the Roman Catholic, Greek Catholic,
Greek Orthodox, Ca
John Dittrich wrote:
>I have been given the name of the village where my Grandfather was born, TOPOLYO BOINOTI, but cannot find it on any maps that I have. Can someone verify that the village was real, and possibly where it is. I tried the Banat Village List, but it does not show there.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help received
>
>John Dittrich
>St. Catharines, ON
>
>
Hi John,
I'm really (wildly) guessing here but it looks like your Topolyo
Boinoti might be Italian for Topolya, county Bacs-Bo
Thank you Janet for a wonderful article. I have relatives who lived in New
York during that time period and gives a sense of atmosphere to how they must
have lived.
I now have some more informed questions to ask!!!
I hope this list will continue to pass on this kind of informal information
especially from those who have first hand knowledge of what life was like for
an immigrant. I have none surviving to pass that info on and the younger
members are not overly interested. So I have to find out fr
Duplicates of all b,d,m's from the kingdom of Hungary prior to the Treaty of
Trianon are kept in Budapest. Check with the FHL to see if the town you are
interested in has been copied. Only after the Treaty date would you most likely
have to go to the Romanian records. I believe these are both church and civil
records.
When I was in Vienna I went to the Rathaus (city hall) to see about getting
copies of my grandmother's birth certificate. I was told in no uncertain terms
she was not Austrian. Seems sh
Hi Everyone,
Just to let everyone know that a searchable list of Hungarians that
Migrated to Australia between 1946 and 1957 is available at
http://members.iinet.net.au/~tpsoft/hung/search.html
the database contains over 9 thousand entries.
Regards
Tom
I would like to draw everyone's attention to a website I just discovered:
http://www.hunmagyar.org/hungary.htm.
There is a great deal there which should be of interest, including history,
ethnographic maps, and some of the best, most beautiful photos I have seen
on the web. They include many of Hungarians in costume and dances from
specific areas of Hungary.
Janet
In a message dated 4/9/2004 6:48:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dg43@tampabay.rr.com writes:
> I have been trying to access the Bremen Site but keep getting a message that
> the page cannot be found. The url I am using is from an e-mail by Marika
> April 5.
> http://db.genealogy.net/maus/gate/shiplists.cgi?lang=en
>
Dear List,
It appears the link I sent doesn't work any longer. It will not work from my
favorites either.
I tried using another approach, but it also doesn't work:
http://www.routes.de/l
Matt Tremmel wrote:
>Is there anyone on this list that know the origin and
>details about this book?
>
>My grandmother paternal grandmother was Franciska
>Schimpl so I'm probably related to the author.
>
>I would like to get a copy of this book. Is it
>published? Are there people from Elek on this list?
>
>I'm researching:
>Tremmel, Durst, Schimpl, Hack, Wittman, Niedermayer,
>Krausz, Dietz
>
>Thanks, Matt
>
>
Hi Matt,
here is the address of the author; you can order it from him. Did
not find an E-
Janet, What a wonderful article. Thank you for sharing it with us. Marlo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Kozlay"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:28 PM
Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarians in New York
> I just by accident ran across a fascinating article about the Hungarian
> community in New York which was published in 1924. You can see it at
> http://www.oldandsold.com/articles06/new-york-city-68.shtml. The American
> writer's observations of thi
Where is Barbara located? I live in the DC metro area and I know of two
possible resources. Let me know if I can help.
In a message dated 3/20/2004 2:33:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lesjosa@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> Barbara wrote to me privately but I thought rest of the list might like
> my answer.
>
> Hello,
> I was wondering if you knew of any Hungarian Language classes in the
> area? My father is from Hungary and we have just spent the most
> wonderful 6 weeks in the most beautiful country and I