To be continued............
Records for Ireland
People always comment on how there are so few records remaining for Ireland
because of the fire in the Four Courts in 1922. Yes, many records were lost
at that time and it was terrible - but there was an awful lot of material
which wasn't stored in the Four Courts.
People on the newsgroups are always wondering why their families moved from
Ireland to England, they wonder about how the famine was the main cause of
movement out of Ireland. Well, it was and
I was trying to find out recently what it's like in bookshops in the States
re finding Irish books......I mean here, if I go into a bookshop - we have
tons of them, all over the place - shelves and shelves of them, covering
everything, fact to fiction. *But* if i was to look for a'specialised'
book on another country - then it'd be a different kettle of fish - i might
be lucky and it might be a best seller and sitting there - I might have to
wander through a sozen bookshops looking for it - or, I might hv
Hi Jane,
Thank you for the book lists you are putting on line. It is so hard to find
good Irish books here. The best library I found for Irish books was at the
Mormon Library in Salt Lake City. It was very good but they do not do
interlibrary loan or anything. You have to go to Salt Lake City to view
them. They had them separated by Irish counties and then the general ones.
But thanks for your lists maybe I'll find one to help me locate my Laois
DUNNEs.
Never did find the Dunlaoighre group on
Don't I sound as though I know how to work them when I say to you 'go to the
archives and find my old posts on the 'book list.....'
I don't!!
now - others do (I think) - and they always say check out the
archives....and so....
I'm a sheep - but it makes life so simple..........
only there's loads of people asking me about how to access the archives.....
and I can only tell you what I try myself - and I'm one of these people who
when driving a car knows how to get from A to B - but if you ask me abo
sorry to post to the list,cannot reach you.
Your mail is being tended to by
a gentleman at hotmail..Same initials.
jo
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Hello;
I 'm posting for the first time to this list. I have a friend
who thinks her family came from Laois and the family name was
Fitzzachary. Does this name sound
familiar or is it even common in Laois?
pete greene
Great grandfather James CLOONAN married Margaret HOWARD.
They had a daughter, Sarah, born in Offaly C1830.
She and two siblings, Laurence and Mary migrated to Australia about 1850.where they died.
I would be grateful if anyone with knowlege of these two family names could help me.
Regards,
Margaret & Kevin Cloonan
Bendigo City, Australia. E Mail cloonan@netcon.net.au
The Militia
Records similar to those of the army. The PRO in Britain has material for
most Irish counties
Customs & Excise.
People were posted away from areas where they had friends and relatives, and
family were also transferred. English Officers might have spent time in
Ireland and vice versa. Children would say they were born in one country or
the other and not think of themselves as being from that country.
Coastguards:
Records for nominations for appointments began in 1816.
Police:
We all know a
HORATIO ? follow that!
Contact sought with anyone searching LAOIS/LEIX.QUEENS
for the GEOGHEGANS
especially Horatio residing @ parish of Abbeyleix 1859
I also have my eye on Rodolphus @ Clonenagh 1861
they've got to be related
new website up for the misnamed Millenium
join me ?
Josi
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Quite right
being born in a stable,...
doesn't make you a horse!
josi
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doesn't know what they are about - please go to the archives for the
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Books' and 'The Book List'
Thanks,
Jane
1 941.5 /Irish Conference ../The town in Ireland, edited
b../1981
2 941.5 file://Ireland unfree, essays on the history of the
Iri../1981
3 941.5 /Breathnach, Diarm../Almanag Eireannach, Diarmuid
../1981
4 941.5
Dear Jane,
You did it again. Thank you for all the information on Irish names. This
would have really helped me years ago when searching for my GGM named "Nora"
didn't know at the time it was really "Hannora".
I am a member of "ISTG". We are a group of people who are transcibing the
immigrant passenger lists and putting them on the net for all to reference.
I would like to send a copy of your "Christian Irish Names" to our list as a
guide for our transcription. I'd appreciate it if you let me
My apologies to anyone on a few of the lists I have sent some of the
Dioscescan info to today...for the multiple posts you are receiving and the
length of them.
It was always my original intention to try and sort out each county so to
speak - the parishes associated with that county from each Diocese........
but I never got round to it.....
because while I am familiar with the geography of a lot of places - I amn't
with everywhere and it was just too much to have to go tracking down those
places that I d
Ballycarney COI - Wexford
Watkins:
Erected by /Esther Wathins Powell of /Cinncinnati, Ohio, USA in memory of
her /parents grandmother & brother/William Watkins aged 63/Margaret Watkins
aged 58/Nancy Boles Tackaberry aged 104/Thomas Watkins aged 63/also John
Watkins aged 93.
No dates. Late 19th century type stone
Rahanavannagh: Co. Laois/Queen's
McDonald: In/Memory of /Winnifred McDonald/who died 22nd April 1860/Aged 46
years./Also her husband/John/died 16th Sept 1892./Aged 83 years. /Their son
William./di
Hello Laois Listers,
My gg/grandmother Margaret SHELLY was born in 1799 in Aghaboe Parish,
County Laois. She lived in Barna townland and was married to John
Farrell. She
eventually emigrated along with her 4 children to
Baltimore,Maryland,USA, ca.1855
She died in Baltimore in 1869.
Does anyone know if the SHELLY surname was a common one in the Borris-
in-Ossory/Aghaboe area during the early 1800's?
Tom Farrell
Sheesh.........reading thru this.........I only think belatedly!!
The Tithes would've been done in the mid 1800's.......
and Barnasallgh here - that wouldn've been Barna..........
Maybe your John Farrell..........choice of Sen (john Farrel (they don't
mention sen.) or John Farrell Jun.......
small world......
Jane
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From: Jane Lyons
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: SHELLY SURNAME
> No Shelleys in Aghaboe f
Most people seem to like the fact that I'm doing this - so I'll continue.
For some - they say it didn't come through - I've not put it as an
attachment onto my mail but pasted it into the body of the mail. I know
that the lines are breaking up and that some bits of the reference are being
highlighted by my IE5....I think the highlighting doesn't go thru to
everyone as it may be something to do with the qualities of IE5 and the fact
that URL's come up highlighted. The mailer may be reading parts of teh
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For anyone who has joined any of the lists these are being sent to and
doesn't know what they are about - please go to the archives for the
newsgroup and see my postings of 7th and 8th of November: Subjects 'Irish
Books' and 'The Book List'
Thanks,
Jane
1 941.5 /Curtis, Liz/The cause of Ireland, from the
United../1994
2 941.5 file://Reconsiderations of Irish history and culture,
s../1994
3 941.5 /Gallagher, John/Connacht, a heritage to explore,
../1994
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The following is from a book I have. It may be a bit difficult for you to
follow - but persevere :-) if you want to.
People are always looking for info onthis parish or that parish for all over
Ireland. Various genealogical guides list records whcih still exist for
this place or that place -. People look for records of Civil Parishes - it
is said that Civil parishes equate to COI parishes - that's not absolutely
so from what i read - but - another topic.
So - people are sent to various sites to check o
No Shelleys in Aghaboe for the Tithes that I can make out....
This in one I have
Skirk Shelly John Skeirk Ossory
and i'm transcribing gravyeyards in the county - admittedly Aghaboe has some
very old ones and I've only looked at easy to read stones there....but no
Shelleys. No graveyard in B in O itself.and no Shelleys in other graveyards
around.....
here are some Farrells - from gravestone transcriptions
Farrell John Joseph 1965 Maryboro Rd.,Mountrath Clonenagh outside Mountrath
Farrell Annie 1969
GENERAL POST OFFICE IRELAND
Established by Act of Parliament, 1st of August, 1784
1820
Post masters General
Right Honourable Earl O'Neill, K. St. P.
Right Honourable Earl of Rosse
The mails for England leave Dublin every evening except Sunday, and are due
in Dublin every day except Wednesday.
Letters for Ireland and Scotland are received until seven o'clock.
All Double, Treble and other Letters Packets whatever pays in proportion to
the respective rates of Single Letters. - Packets chargable by Weight p
Talking to my sister last night - she's big into set dancing. It's
something which has seen a huge revival in Ireland...
I never knew the differences in all those dances we learned as children, all
those steps......but they were fun.
Anyhow.....it seems that different parts of the country stick with their own
kinds, I can't remember the various locations for wach one.
The reel type - they're usually from Co. Clare; Polka's - they spread from
Cork, thru Wexford, up the country...you don't dance a polka i
Baptisms and marriages were recorded in either Latin or English. Never in
Irish. Generally where English was more common English was used and Latin
was in Irish speaking parishes. Only the first names were translated into
Latin, surname and placenames were not.
Latin Name: English Equivalent/s
Anna: Anne
Carolus: Charles
Cornelius: Cornelius, Conor, Neil
Demetrius: Jeremiah, Jerome, Jerry, Dermot or Derby. (Demetrius is a
Latinised form of the Irish name Diarmaid which had been incorrectly
anglicised a