I believe I have the right county for this time period--early 1800s. Please
correct me if I am wrong.
Muddy Creek or Union Cemetery as I understand is near Kernersville, NC. In a
quote from another researcher from a book about this area "The church
continued until the late 1800's but many of its original members had migrated
to the midwest by 1850. Today there is no church, but the cemetery continues
to be used by the Hopkins and Whicker families." I do not know what time
period "Today" indicates
I'm becoming weary with names and dates, and would like to learn more about
the daily life of my ancestors who lived in this area from the 1780's to
1840's. Of most interest would be the type of homes, clothing, social
activities, everyday life of families both rich and poor. I suppose most
people lived on farms as it was a rural area in that time and only a few
would have lived in villages, but who lived a better life? Or was it more a
matter of difference than of quality.
What I'm asking then,
I am searching for parents and siblings of Andrew J. THOMAS b. 1819 in North
Carolina. He married Patience ABERTSON in Stokes Co. 1848. A
Harmon(Harman, Herman?)MILLER signed his marriage bond with Andrew.
Andrew and wife Patience and baby John Franklin THOMAS are found on the 1850
Forsyth Co. NC census(Salem Township). (Forsyth Co. was formed from Stokes
Co. in 1850)Also in the household are Nancy age 14 and John O. age 21. Who
are they? Siblings to Andrew? Niece & nephew? William THOMAS that die
Group,
I have found Albion's Seed compelling and it gives a student of history and
genealogy a good philosophical base for thinking about their Chesapeake
ancestors. Almost all my family lines can be traced to this area of
Virginia. Another good source is James Horn's Adapting to a New World:
English Society in Seventeenth Century Virginia. I bought both copies from
Amazon. The sources listed in both books are worth having in themselves.
Good reading. Dan
First of all thanks to all who responded. And secondly, I didn't mean to
start a war here. I really only have time to read one book right now, and I
wanted to find the one that covered most of the information I sought.
Judging by the fact that several people suggested Albion's Seed, and what I
read about it at Amazon, I don't feel anyone was hyping it and am sorry if
any of this has offended anyone.
Jill Knitl
Hi All,
I want to thank the people who took the time to write and share their
enthusiasm and knowledge about books that are interesting and historical.
It's far more useful to me to get recommendations from someone who has read
the books than to blindly buy them without knowing. It's also far more
enjoyable for me to read e-mails about good book recommendations than to
read time-wasting complaint letters without any recommendations.
Thanks again,
Jo
Many of you will be pleased to learn that in some instances "Albions
Seed and The Road to Salem is available from the library. If your
library does not have a copy of either, ask for them to get it for you
on inter-library loan. I did so.
R Barton
Jill,
While not N.C. specific one of the finest books I have ever read on
the subjects you mention is titled ALBION SEED by David Hackett Fischer
(hope I'm spelling his name correctly, my two copies are both out on loan,
again!) published by Oxford University Press. The paperback copy is about
$20 (it's over 1200 pages long).
Has to be one of the most amazing books I've ever read. Loaned a
copy to my brother a few years back when he was with our embassy in Panama.
He loaned it to the ambassador who, in
Hello Nita & list,
I put the following message on the list several months ago,
but it's worth running again. It's been a while since I went to this
site, but I'm pretty sure the Railroad maps showed features such as
rivers, etc.
The Library of Congress has a website that has a huge database called
American Memory, Historical Collections.
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/finder.html
Go to site above, click on Maps. There are maps for Cities and Towns, some
aerial.
All the ones I looked at can be zoo
Jill wrote
> I'm becoming weary with names and dates, and would like to learn more about
> the daily life of my ancestors who lived in this area from the 1780's to
> 1840's. Of most interest would be the type of homes, clothing, social
> activities, everyday life of families both rich and poor. I suppose most
> people lived on farms as it was a rural area in that time and only a few
> would have lived in villages, but who lived a better life? Or was it more
> a
> matter of difference than of quality.
>
Harold wrote -
> I'm sorry but the Albion Seed letters today seem like hype to me. It was
> too set up. One day someone puts in a request for realism and bingo,
> within
> a few hours Albion Seed is offered. Come on!! Are we being taken or not.
> Maybe its a good book, but why promote it this way. I don't like to be
> taken and there is too much of this on e-mail. Harold
>
Hi Harold - I am the first one that posted to Jill's request. My prompt
reply can be explained by the fact that I happened to b
Thank you for the info. I had seen your earlier messsage and book marked
the site, but absentmindedness set in.
Will see what I can find.
Thanks again
Nita
Hello;
Can anyone tell me where I might find an older map (late 1800's) Stokes County showing rivers and creeks. I am trying to locate a 58 acre tract that belonged to my gr grandfather. The deed and/or survey mentions Mill Creek and" adjoining the propertyof William Walls, Wade Hicks, Lewis Chandler".
Of course theymention two dead white oaks and a small white oak. Little humor there. ha
All help appreciated.
Nita Pearce
nnpear2@rmi.net
Dunno abt the hype. I've been reading the book for a while now. Got it for
the local history/culture focus for, inter alia, Tidewater Virginia. The
book is well written, informative and an easy read (for a history book).
I've gotten more than my $26 worth out of it.
PS. I bought the book earlier this year - much before this e-mail thread
began!!!!!!
John Speight
Lilburn, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: Clifford J Ocheltree
To:
Sent: Thursday, O
Harold,
Sorry to offend with my personal enthusiasm. When I responded to
Jill I had not yet seen the other recommendations. Perhaps the book is just
that good.
For the record I'm not related to the author nor do I work for a
bookstore or the publisher.
Cliff Ocheltree
At 9:56 PM -0000 10/14/99, Harold Kelley wrote:
>I'm sorry but the Albion Seed letters today seem like hype to me. It was
>too set up. One day someone puts in a request for realism and bingo, within
>a few hours Albion Seed is offered.
Hey, Harold, it really is that good! I've read it twice, so far, and I'm
far from finished with it. It's a wonderful book simply to read and enjoy,
but the scholarship is superb, as well. In fact, it was first recommended
to me by a well-respected American historian at the college where I teach.
Check it out for yourself at the library and see if you don't agree.
To the List: If you all have missed "The Road to Salem" by Adelaide Fries,
you have a treat waiting for you. Dr. Fries, a Moravian scholar
I found a copy of volume 8 of the Records of the Moravians in North
Carolina yesterday in a used bookstore. This volume covers the 1823-1837
period.
Please contact me privately if you're interested.
Elizabeth Harris
state coordinator, NCGenWeb
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/
I'm sorry but the Albion Seed letters today seem like hype to me. It was
too set up. One day someone puts in a request for realism and bingo, within
a few hours Albion Seed is offered. Come on!! Are we being taken or not.
Maybe its a good book, but why promote it this way. I don't like to be
taken and there is too much of this on e-mail. Harold
Does anyone know whether or not there is a reference in the book Seasons in
Stokes, by Darrel Lester, to the marriage of Thomas Joyce and Elizabeth Smith
in 1748?
Thanks,
Barbara
Hi everyone,
Thanks again for all the info. Just thought I'd let you know I ordered
Albion's Seed and The Road to Salem from Books a Million. There's one very
close to us so thought I'd give it a shot. They didn't have it in stock, so
I ordered online and they are cheaper than Amazon, Borders, and B&N if you
join the Millionaire's Club which costs $5 a year. If you live near one, or
buy a lot of books online, it's a big savings in the long run.
Albion's Seed was $18.72 and The Road to Salem was
Mystery solved, I think. Both Elke Hall and Wade Motsinger concur that she
is probably Elizabeth HOEHNS, wife of David HEGE (1777-1815). If so, her
parents were Johannes HOEHNS and Anna Maria SCHOR.
It would appear that the alternative, that she's the daughter of Henry HEGE
and Barbara LEONARD, is incorrect. Henry and Barbara's daughter Elizabeth
is probably the one with dates 1768-1867, married Charles BERRIER in 1796
and moved to Lincoln Co. TN 1812.
Thanks, everyone, for the quick response!
Elizab
At 3:08 PM 10/14/99, Clifford J Ocheltree wrote:
>Harold,
>
> Sorry to offend with my personal enthusiasm. When I responded to
>Jill I had not yet seen the other recommendations. Perhaps the book is just
>that good.
>
> For the record I'm not related to the author nor do I work for a
>bookstore or the publisher.
>
Neither do I, and my response to the list was purely spontaneous; Albion's
Seed is a book I thought of immediately in answer to Jill's question.
I'll even add another one, Laurel U