How far from the original meaning this word has strayed!
http://www.bartleby.com/61/12/P0661200.html
pundit
SYLLABICATION: pun7dit
PRONUNCIATION: pn4dt
NOUN : 1. A source of opinion; a critic: a political pundit. 2. A
learned person. 3. Hinduism See pandit.
ETYMOLOGY: Hindi pait, learned man, from Sanskrit paita, learned,
scholar, perhaps of Dravidian origin.
OTHER FORMS: pun4dit7ry NOUN
The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition.
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:34:56 EST RBRICKROOM@aol.com writes:
"Those marriage regulations are more valid than jumping the broom then?
Just a little levity."
Levity is the whole idea behind jumping isn't it? It's gravity keeps
our feet on the ground.
Richard Turner.
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The word "turn" takes a full page in my best dictionary. It is supposed to
be from Latin "tornus," which is a lathe, but you can bet it didn't begin
with Latin.
You have picked a fun word. One could write a book about the word "turn."
Matter of fact, two people I know HAVE.
Read "Hamlet's Mill," by Giorgio de Santillana & Hertha Von Dechend.
You'll get a rough idea how ancient the idea of a mill is. Then read some
Cavalli-Sforza about the age of the proto-Indo-European tongue.
I'll wait here...
Clementin
At 02:48 PM 11/06/2000 EST, MayCousins@aol.com wrote:
>My brother, Richard, called this morning to tell me that his friend
>challenged his usage of the word, "copasetic" (?). I question it myself
>since I don't even know how to spell it. Our family has used it forever.
It
>means 'everything is OK, fine, etc." After Richard & his friend spent
thirty
>minutes with Funk & Wagnells, they gave up. But, I thought you all could
>help. Thanks! Ginny
Ginny:
It's "copacetic" - meaning "very satisfactory".
Hi, it's copacetic, and was used in the Jazz Age, the twenties that is.
Clem
-----Original Message-----
From: MayCousins@aol.com
To: OLD-WORDS-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: [OLDWORDS] "copasetic"?
>Boy, do I feel stupid!
>
>My brother, Richard, called this morning to tell me that his friend
>challenged his usage of the word, "copasetic" (?). I question it myself
>since I don't even know how to spell it. Our family has use
Can anyone tell me whether the term "turn" originated with the grinding of
grain at mills, or whether it predates that (or has a different origin)?
Thanks
Jo
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fence viewers: After about 1750, persons elected in each county of many
New England colonies and of PA whose duty it was to inspect all fences
and see that they were kept in good repair, e.g., 'If the fence viewers
found fences in disrepair, that owner could not recover for trespass by
the animals of others.'
An excellent book to use is 'What Did They Mean By That?' A Dictionary
of Historical Terms for Genealogists by Paul Drake.
Linda
HI Lisa,
A search on the Web using http://www.alltheweb.com produced
179 matches on "knights and ladies of security".
One said:
"The Security Benefit Association (originally the Knights and Ladies
of Security) followed in a similar tradition but broke from the
mainstream by allowing men and women to join on equal terms.
During the 1910s and the 1920s, the Knights and Ladies of Security
established a hospital, a home for the elderly, and an orphanage
all in a single location near Topeka."
Another
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>>ps---in my OED the earliest use is 1926, and orig unk, and the suggestion
is
>>that it's early Jive.
>
>Merriam-Webster says 1919. And, believe it or not, "copasetic" is an
>acceptable alternative spelling along with "copesetic".
>Elsi
Jive spellings, to be sure.
;-)
At 03:17 PM 11/06/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>ps---in my OED the earliest use is 1926, and orig unk, and the suggestion is
>that it's early Jive.
Merriam-Webster says 1919. And, believe it or not, "copasetic" is an
acceptable alternative spelling along with "copesetic".
Elsi
A creelman was a man who transported goods in wicker baskets (creels) hung
on either side of a horse like panniers. Transportation by packhorse trains
[usually 16/20 horses] was the usual method of moving goods -coal, lime,
wool etc - especially in hilly regions. It seems perfectly reasonable that
the name creelman became a surname, as the other name for a packhorseman did
, i.e. Jagger.
Hope this helps
Louis
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From: OLD-WORDS-D-request@rootsweb.com
At 10:07 AM 11/07/2000 -0500, Carey@Hazleton.net wrote:
>By the way, "copain" and its variants, pronounced +/- co-PAN, has the
>meaning, and flavor, of "buddy, friend, chum, pal, fellow" in the warmest
>sense---rather like "old top" or "mon vieux" conveys. Warmth. And while
>it's French, it probably ranged from ancient Latin to recent Creole, akin to
>compadre, goomba and all that...
Let's talk "goomba". A friend's grandmother was known as "goomba", but I
think they actually spelled it Gheumbaugh -- the
Hi ! Does anyone have any idea what the Knights and Ladies of Security
is ? Is it Mason's ? This was off of an obit for my great great
grandfather. Any ideas ?
Lisa
I tried to find it some time ago without results also.R
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From:
To:
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11 48 AM
Subject: [OLDWORDS] "copasetic"?
Boy, do I feel stupid!
My brother, Richard, called this morning to tell me that his friend
challenged his usage of the word, "copasetic" (?). I question it myself
since I don't even know how to spell it. Our family has used it forever.
It
means 'everything is OK, fine, etc." After Richard
By the way, "copain" and its variants, pronounced +/- co-PAN, has the
meaning, and flavor, of "buddy, friend, chum, pal, fellow" in the warmest
sense---rather like "old top" or "mon vieux" conveys. Warmth. And while
it's French, it probably ranged from ancient Latin to recent Creole, akin to
compadre, goomba and all that...
I detect copain, through the New Orleans connection, to copacetic and 'cope.
Clem
-----Original Message-----
From: Elsi
To: OLD-WORDS-L@rootsweb.com
compadre=goomba
compadre, coompare, goomba'
trust me
-----Original Message-----
From: Elsi
To: OLD-WORDS-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [OLDWORDS] "copasetic"?
>At 10:07 AM 11/07/2000 -0500, Carey@Hazleton.net wrote:
>>By the way, "copain" and its variants, pronounced +/- co-PAN, has the
>>meaning, and flavor, of "buddy, friend, chum, pal, fellow" in the warmest
>>sense---rather like "old top" or "mon vieux" conveys.
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Thanks for your reply Liz. I had searched and for quite a while before
posting and just found something just as I received this at
http://www.nfcanet.org. Thanks again for your reply, now I am on to
check out the one you found.
Lisa
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Boy, do I feel stupid!
My brother, Richard, called this morning to tell me that his friend
challenged his usage of the word, "copasetic" (?). I question it myself
since I don't even know how to spell it. Our family has used it forever. It
means 'everything is OK, fine, etc." After Richard & his friend spent thirty
minutes with Funk & Wagnells, they gave up. But, I thought you all could
help. Thanks! Ginny
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Marian Douglas"
To: NOTABLE-WOMEN-ANCESTORS-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:42:48 +0100
Subject: American women -- old marriage customs/rules
forwarded info:
From: Shirley Hornbeck
Subject: THIS AND THAT GENEALOGY TIPS
MARRIAGE RECORDS:
During the colonial period, the law required a true and perfect parish
register. After 1780, ministers were required to report all marriages to
the county court clerk whose
Dear All,
Goomba goomba, goomba's yeh.
Good lot of partners awt ther fer sure, Copacabana.
Gumbah yer.......... lets go too Havana where us speek
and smoke real Cigarra:-))
Not serious, fully, lets ave sum fun too. ;-))'s to you all and best
wishes,
Muy mums name was Elsie and she read ther ruddy OED and brawt us up on err
diction errie.
Best,
Mikey
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [OLDWOR
To Elsi, Clem and Bob,
Thanks for all the intelligence on this jive word! I forwarded your replies
to Richard, and he was delighted to have been vindicated! Everything is
hunky-dory now! Thanks again for you time & help. Ginny
My little dictionary gives four spellings and reports "origin unknown"
but generally agrees it means everything is OK!! Our family also has
used this for ages. Aye, Bob McArtor (Virginia)
MayCousins@aol.com wrote:
>
> Boy, do I feel stupid!
>
> My brother, Richard, called this morning to tell me that his friend
> challenged his usage of the word, "copasetic" (?). I question it myself
> since I don't even know how to spell it. Our family has used it forever. It
> means 'everything is OK, fine, etc."