HI, IS NO ONE OUT THERE?
I SENT THIS MESSAGE OVER THE WEEKEND AND HAVE NOT GOT ONE COMMIT, WHAT THE
DEAL, SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW?
<< Hello Cousins,
I just recently found the following information and wondered where "we"
stand on this wife? I see by our last roll call that at least one of us,
claims Mary (by ?) as wife of our Jonathan. What do you more seasoned Rudd
researcher think, is there as possibility or can we prove her out!! I know
with her we lose the MM theory, but??
The follo
Dear Nancy:
I have often wondered if the "MM" was for Mary Metcalfe who married in 1745
Daniel Rudd, b. 1709/10 (Nathaniel, Jonathan). I know it is a wild guess, but
no one has ever come up with anything else as yet that I know of. Joann, I
can see you jumping up and down now, but I've always wanted to bring this
out in the open and see what the fall-out would be.
Hope you are all having better weather than we are. Severe storm predicted
in about 2 hours, and we've alreadey had two very bad storms with
Hi, Celia,
Thanks for all that wonderful information. I'm betting you are right
about the Mary Metcalf that married John Reed/Rudd. Wonder if we could
find more on a John Reed???
Joann
Celia Snyder wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been doing a bit of checking from several different sources.
> Here's some thoughts on Mary Metcalf.
Hello Cousins,
I just recently found the following information and wondered where "we"
stand on this wife? I see by our last roll call that at least one of us,
claims Mary (by ?) as wife of our Jonathan. What do you more seasoned Rudd
researcher think, is there as possibility or can we prove her out!! I know
with her we lose the MM theory, but??
The following is part of THOMAS BIRCHARD
in THE GREAT MIGRATION
IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ENGLAND 1634 -- 1635
by Robert Charles Anderson
G
Hi Nancy,
I don't know about anyone else, but my USP (UIUC) changed phone
numbers for dial-in purposes which caused some changes in the
configuration. It took me a couple of days to get all the
information I needed to get my computer at home changed [about 9:45
last night]. Just haven't had a chance to respond. Also wanted to
ask you about some Ryerson info - genealogylibrary.com has a book on
the Ryersons which includes some Rudds? I'll let you know what I
found.
Celia in Illinois
PS: Seems
Hi Bill,
Here's a belated great bit welcome to the Rudd Surname Mail list. We
have some common ancestors, so "Hi Cuz!"
My name is Celia Snyder and I have a "Descendants of Jonathan Rudd"
web site if you'd care to check it out. It needs some updating, but
what is there is fairly comprehensive. The address is:
http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~cgsnyder/WC_TOC.HTM
All the best,
Celia [in Illinois]
Celia G. Snyder (cgsnyder@uiuc.edu)
Champaign County Coordinator, ILGenWeb Project, The USGenWeb Project
http
Didn't the list also entertain the name Mary Morey as a possibility for
Jonathan's wife? I seem to remember seeing that name mentioned somewhere
linked to Jonathan. But I don't recall the outcome of the discussion (if
there was one).
Judy
Kevin - when I was at the Lee house, I was told that whoever owned it at the
time
of the Bride Brook Wedding stood up with Jonathan when he was
married. Can't prove it, but am quite sure I got it right. Still think it
worth a try.
Still would like to know if the local historical society who owns the
building, I
believe, have come up with anything new lately about the whole thing.
Dot DuMond, New York
Hi Cousins!
Since the subject has come up, I hope you don't mind my putting my two
cents in regarding Mary Metcalfe. Those of us who are "old-timers" to the
list remember that we had this discussion before, a long time ago, when we
first got going. I went to Connecticut and saw the dowry chest, took
pictures of it, and went to the state archives in Hartford to do some
research. I've actually SEEN Governor Winthrop's deposition on the Bride
Brook Wedding, in the original record book.
Family tradition
Kevin!
HI! Food for thought.
Erastus Harper Rudd is my Ancestor & I was scanning the
www.familysearch.org and found a Father for our Jonathan, hopefully, has
been entered. All the stats coincide, except it states our Jonathan was
born in Windam, CT
It states that his Father was Jonathan, Born abt 1597 in England, died
abt 1668 in CT. I have NOT checked the Source of the new info. The
Pedigree & Family Sheet matches our info.
What is your opinion?
Leora Rudd Penhorwood
_________________________________
Dear Dot:
So sorry about the weather, it's sunny and just right warm here in
Montague, MI.
As for Mary Metcalfe. I researched that question when I was in Salt Lake
City in Nov. 1997 and posted my findings here. Did you Miss it. According
to several sources the Mary Metcalfe, born 14 Feb 1918/19 in Dedham, MA to
Michael and Sarah Ellwyn Metcalf married Henry Wilson 24 Nov 1642. They had
5 children and so was busy in 1646 when she was supposed to marry our
Jonathan.
This is written in Metcalfe
Hi folks,
I've been doing a bit of checking from several different sources.
Here's some thoughts on Mary Metcalf.
I believe we have at least three (perhaps four) Mary Metcalfs
muddying the waters here:
The one most often associated with Jonathan Rudd was supposedly the
daughter of Michael Metcalf and Mary Fairbanks. They have her born
ca 1625 or thereabouts. The problem with this is that Michael
Metcalf was born 29 Aug 1620 and Mary Fairbanks 18 Apr 1622. I've
never understood why these folks ca
Dot--
I'm liking it so far, but prosecutors don't get rich! This one's not even
breaking even yet, but I'm hoping it will improve with time.
I hope no one took offense at my 'recap' of the Mary Metcalf issue. I
think Celia presented a concise summary of what we do know about the
possible Mary Metcalfs that have been uncovered, but I think it is still
possible that there may be some info out there that we don't have yet. I
would REALLY like to make contact with someone in Great Britain that could
do r
I'm assuming if it was Mary Metcalfe, that it was a differert one. Why
couldn't
it have been her hope chest and thus just the MM? I've seen the chest, and
only saw the MM.
Happy hunting!
Dot
I have seen Rudds everywhere for a year. No one wants to
claim kin. Do you know: Frances Rudd b. N.C. 1800. She
was in Lincoln County, TN by 1819, married to James Kyser.
In Lincoln County and in Bedford County James Kyser had
land transactions with Benjamin Rudd. I would guess he is
Frances Rudd's brother. That is all I know about Frances
except she was called Fanny and that is on her marker
in Texas, where they removed to claim a land grant of 640
acres in 1845. Rudd8@aol.com
Judy,
Yes we did talk about Mary Morey and I posted that question on the
Morey Genweb question forum (or what ever it is called) but I have got no
answer. Don't remember if we had any other research going on about her.
Nancy
Just for the sake of knowing, what are the details of the Rudd reunion?
Celia, Illinois
[you never know who might decide to show up - lol!]
At 2:39 PM -0400 5/24/00, Joann H. Nichols wrote:
>Okay, Dot,
>
>Here I am! I agree with you. I just don't think we'll ever discover
>Lt. Jonathan's wife's name.
>
>Hope to see you at the Rudd reunion in August.
>
>Joann
>
>Dumonddr@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Dear Nancy:
>>
>> I have often wondered if the "MM" was for Mary Metcalfe who married in 1745
>> Daniel Rudd, b
Hi, Jane,
It looks to me as if your line is in the UK, and Kevin's line comes down
from Jonathan Rudd, the emigrant to America in the 1600s.
Good luck,
Joann Nichols
Jane Jones wrote:
>
> Not unless they were from the first marriage which I know nothing about at
> the moment!
>
> His first wife died sometime before 1891 when he remarried Emily STREETS,
> my Ggran.
>
> My William Henry's father's name was Edward RUDD so it's not the same one.
> However, please give me a bit more background info as to
Hi, Leora and other Rudds,
The Jonathan who died in 1668 in CT was the emigrant. He is Lt.
Jonathan Rudd. He had four known children, two sons, Nathaniel and
Jonathan and two daughters.
Joann Nichols
penhrwd@juno.com wrote:
>
> Kevin!
> HI! Food for thought.
> Erastus Harper Rudd is my Ancestor & I was scanning the
> www.familysearch.org and found a Father for our Jonathan, hopefully, has
> been entered. All the stats coincide, except it states our Jonathan was
> born in Windam, CT
> It states that
HI Joann!
Erastus Harper Rudd, B 23 June1787, in Massachusetts, is my GreatGreat
Grandfather.
He died 27 June 1834, in Zions Camp, Clay, Missouri of Cholera. Was
buried near there, wrapped in a blanket, beside a small stream.
A few years ago my cousin sent me a clipping from the Kansas City Times,
2 Jan 1971, that he found in the Kansas City Public Library, that is
relative to the deaths of Zion's Camp member including Erastus Rudd. The
Article was written by David Harness.
It stated that skeletal remains
Hi, Celia,
Thanks for your reply. I have looked at the website you mention
previously, but last night I looked at the Ancestry.com website and
found them listed differently. I decided to pursue Almira, wondering if
she could be the Almina that I think is Silas' first wife. Silas ended
up in Rockford (he is Arlene Willett's ancestor), and had a new wife by
1850. One person has suggested that 46N might be Rockton. Guess I need
to look at a map! And rather than it being 4000 acres, it is 40 acres;
they
Well, glad to hear from you Celia, I was beginning to think you all left and
didn't tell me!!! So Mary Birchard is a very old "wife". Just asking, but
if she has been disproved, well I just ask because someone still had her
listed in her roll call and I found that info. in that new book (new to our
library)
I do have the Ryerson Genealogy 1916. And you are right there are Rudds in
it. I don't recall if I knew that or not?? But they are not in my
(husbands) line so I guess I forgot. I you or any
I'm the new kid on the block,Bill Levis.
Nathaniel Rudd,is my 6 times grandfather born i belive 1693 died 1772. his wife was Mary Post [Joanna Gregory ] dates that I have are 1692-1774.I don't know what these to dates apply to, Mary or Joanna. Nathaniel had a son Johnathan Rudd according to my data bank ,born 1733. He married Talitha Ormsby,and they had a daughter Nancy Rudd born 7-3-1765,and she married Elish Huntington 5-20-1784. Nancy died 6-27-1848.
Nansy and Elisha Huntington Had a daughter Talitha Hu