Marilyn may I but in to your conversation Rox is about 1 and 1/2 hour from
Fife today , a hundred years ago at least a day, my parents are from Rox
and about 45 years ago I spent many happy holidays in Fife.
I wish I could remember who with, but they were relatives
regards Alex
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From: "Marilyn Nagy"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] Quietness of the list.
> Roy
>
> Sounds like a great idea t
I own the book if anyone wants a lookup. Indexing isn't the best, but if
a fact is in the index, it will be found....just takes awhile.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "ALLAN FORSYTH"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] The Border Reivers
> I dont' know about elsewhere, but in Ontario, Canada, I was able to
borrow
> "The Steel :Bonnets" on Interlibrary Loan.
>
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christin
Dear Roy,
Thanks so much for this very interesting input. Were the Reivers a group of
people or a family name - I've not heard of them before. It's sounds like
the Borders weren't a very safe place to live! I have an Armstrong
commencing with a ggggg-grandmother!
Thanks again,
Christine
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Perkins
To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] Border Reivers
>Hi
Hi Debbie,
There is an index available for the 1851 Census (Castleton) from
Graham Maxwell Ancestry Research Services,
12, Latimer Road,
Annan.
Dumfries-shire.
DG12 5JP.
or ancestry@maxwells.freeserve.co.uk
It's priced at #5. Any problems let me know and I'll get you a copy while
I'm in Castleton this weekend.
Regards
Roy
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From: "Debbie Dickson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: [SCT-ROXBURGH] C
I have seen many men wearing a Kilt, about High Streets in smaller towns in
Scotland. Possibly they may have worked in the tourist area, hard to tell.
Also, I was told that a Kilt, has become the Evening ( male), dress of
choice.
Certainly one sees the Kilt more often now, than even 20 yrs ago, & may be
it is a cultural statement.
The Kilt appears to be worn with more pride, than those souls wearing jeans
falling below the natural waistline, frayed, & either baggy, or too tight
for the person wearing th
Tartan Day was first a Canadian holiday, not American.
On December 19th 1991, in response to action initiated by the Clans &
Scottish Societies of Canada, the Ontario Legislature passed a resolution
proclaiming April 6th as Tartan Day, following the example of other
Canadian provinces.
America followed suit on March 20th 1998, when Senate Resolution 155
(S.Res. 155)
"This resolution recognizes the monumental achievements and invaluable
contributions made by Scottish Americans "
I'm sure the Canadian ve
Goodafternoon to all.
I am researching my grandfather and his family.
George Glover married Margaret NESBIT, born 1863 I Hawick.
Walter George GLOVER , married Isabella Scott in Hawick.
Walter born 1881, Isabella b. ?
Walter's father was George Glover born 1860,
Walter had one brother, Robert born 1880.
Walter and Isabella Moved toSaskatchewan aprox 1910 with his family of 3 boys and a daughter Jessie. My Mother and her youngest brother John Cameron Glover were born in Canada.
Other family names or
Absolutely correct about the arbitrary (300 / 400 whatever) timeframes.
We can assume those of Viking descent from 800AD and those of Norman
descent from 1100 AD were there and made things plenty hot before the
term *Reiver* became popular.
Some violent entities were on that border 500 AD onward and the Romans
knew them all too well.
Vikings, (Norse and Danes) and Normans came later, but after 1000 AD for
a hundred or more years there was plenty going on with the border. Even
the Normans who swallowed En
Hi List,
Found this wonderful old Lieutenancy Book showing the names of the men
who were balloted to serve in the Militia 1797-1802 in Roxboroughshire.
It's on line at
http://www.scan.org.uk/researchtools/lieutenancy.htm.
Some of the images are difficult to read.
Images of a few other documents from other areas of Scotland also
available.
Hope you enjoy it and happy hunting!
Andrea in Mallorca - sunny at last!
Hi Christine,
Just for your further information John Byers, 'Liddesdale', 1952 mentions
one Richard Thomson who was Minister of Castleton in 1604.
Regards
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Percival"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] The Border Reivers
> Dear Roy,
>
> Yes, I would like some help please. I checked some of our State libraries
> here in Australia to see if they had the book, but I came
A hundred years ago people could have used the railway for most of the
journey, but I reckon it was quite pricey. Still, the journey would be just
a few hours.
In days gone by a fit young man could walk from Selkirk to Edinburgh in a
day, and many did. Not now of course, due to roads and development of the
landscape.
Judy
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>From: "Alex Elliot"
>To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] Quietness of the list.
>Date: Wed, May 8, 2002, 12:15 am
>
> Ro
Thanks for the tip...I will try it in the morning.
Sandy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Dickson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: [SCT-ROXBURGH] WARK family of Jedburgh
> Hi Sandy,
>
> I also am researching from abroad (Australia) and am also new to this
forum.
>
> Have you tried www.scotsorigins.com for your research? This is the online
> facility for the Scottish B D & M office. They charge for accessing th
Hello List
If there is anyone who maybe able to help with the following I would be =
more than grateful.
I am looking for the following :-
1851 Census
Mary Elliot / Robison with her mother Margaret Elliot / Robison =
unfortunately I do not have a father/husbands name.
Andrew Middlemist ( Basket maker) married to Christy Bog/Boog with at =
least 1 child Thomas (16)
1861 Census
Thomas Middlemist (Private in the Dumfires Militia later a tailor) =
married to Barbara Jamieson with children Andrew (5)
Be
Hi everybody,
Although I have been lurking on the list for sometime now, this is my first
posting.
I am researching the ancestral family of Andrew and Isabella (nee Bell)
Clark who emmigrated to Australia from Hawick in 1858 on the 'Shooting
Star'.
I have traced back to Andrew's grandfather and my 4th great-grandfather,
Robert Clark (?Clerk) b Abt 1745 in Bowden, Roxburgh, m Abt 1763 to Margaret
Wilkie who was b Abt 1749 also in Bowden. Robert and Margaret had William
Clark b 10 March 1777. William ma
Each week the Southern Reporter carries an old phottie for readers to
comment on. This week's subject was a row of four men resting on huge
woodaxes.
The location is Longnewton Forest (just north of Ancrum) and at first glance
the picture looks modern - two of the men have very long hippy-type hair.
But the caption states that the date was 1946. The reason that Alexander and
William ROBERTSON have long hair is because of their Jewish faith.
Alexander (it says) was a famous runner.
At a guess these two men
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] Glover, Nesbit, Scott
> Hi Marcia,
>
> I'm interested in the Stavert's, particularly Andrew Sravert and his
I do not have access on this comp. ( am at work) to my Stavert Research, but
I will gather it and send it to you.
I had , in the beginning, thot perhaps that was a misspelling of Stewart,
then someone sent me verification that indeed it was Stavert.
What do you know of the name?
Marcia
Hi Christine,
Ho I've already asked Neil and he isn't aware of a connection, though
obviously there will be one somewhere.
Regards
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Percival"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] The Border Reivers
> Dear Roy,
>
> Just wondering if Neil Byers (who is/was a member of the Borders list) is
> related to John Byers. Were there any other references to Thomsons in the
> book y
Dear Roy,
Thank you for all this wonderful information. I'm rather curious the
sources which were researched to find out this information. I've actually
borrowed some books from our local library on the history of Scotland. We
don't have great resources - I live in a country area of New South Wales -
the population is around 25,000 which is pretty good by country standards, I
guess.
Once again,
Thanks ever so much.
Yours,
Christine
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Perkins
I am looking for descendents of Francis Cowan and Jane Tait. Francis was
born in Castleton in 1815. Jane died before 1881. They had at least 3
children - Andrew, John and Margaret. All these children were born in
England. Francis was at Friarshawmoor, Bowden in the 1881 and 1891
censuses.
Andrew married Helen Martin in 1880. They had at least 3 children - Helen,
Francis and Jane. Helen is my great grandmother. Andrew's wife Helen died
in 1888. Andrew remarried Bessie Oliver. They had at least 4 c
I dont' know about elsewhere, but in Ontario, Canada, I was able to borrow
"The Steel :Bonnets" on Interlibrary Loan.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Christine Percival
To:
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:09 AM
Subject: [SCT-ROXBURGH] The Border Reivers
> Dear Roy,
>
> Thanks to your little bit of history about the Reivers, I managed to find
a brilliant site on the Border Reivers. It's a summary of many books
written on the subject and includes Bor
This book review appeared in the Sunday Herald on 24th March. - John
THE BORDERS
A history of the borders from earliest times by Alistair
Moffat (deerpark press, #19.95)
Reviewed by George Rosie
EVER since Scottish popular history was hijacked by a dotty version of
Gaeldom, the Borders have slipped down the storytelling agenda. Compared to
the miles of film, hours of television and radio and hundreds of books that
have been devoted to the Highlands it's as if the Borders had always been
some dozy little b
Hooray for your comments
" In the 21st century, when we promote
Scotland in the USA, we call in the bagpipers and dream up something called
Tartan Day."
Every time I have flown on a plane which left the Glasgow airport for North
America or flew too the Glasgow airport from North America , there has
always been some kilted big beer bellied man amongst the passengers. The
frequency of kilt sporters on airplanes never fails to amuse me, for, save
for buskers on High Street in Edinburgh, I cannot remember
True, the Normans and later Anglo-Saxons with their war horses couldn't
follow the short horses with the big feet. They were at home in the
swamps and the big horses were not.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Perkins"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SCT-ROXBURGH] Border Reivers
> Hi Don,
>
> I agree that most 'general historians' put that sort of arbitrary
1200-1600
> time frame on the 'reivers'. 'Reivers' really means not
Hi all,
I think it's a great idea to generate discussion on relevant topics.
My own personal interest is: Does anyone know some of the local history of
Roxburghshire for the last few hundred years. I know one can glean a few
ideas from the Stastical Accounts, but it doesn't describe military
tensions; the relationship with England, battles, etc.
Yours
Christine
Australia
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From: Roy Perkins
To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com