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- 1. Desertion/divorce/ 
- I think I asked this before but I am darned if I can find where or when! Bear with me?
In England up to Divorce Act 1857, if a man deserted his wife and had no further contact with her and simply disappeared, he was considered to be dead after 7 years and she could then remarry.It was one way, a cheap way too of ending a rotten marriage at a time when divorce was almost impossible.
Did this apply anywhere in South Africa? 19thC/20thC?
- 2. Fw: School photo 
- Please ignore my previous e-mail...I should have checked it out before forwarding it...it's a complete hoax/joke played by a friend I am going to deal with off list!
Please accept my sincere apologies...I did think it seemed too good to be true...how right I was!
----- Original Message -----
From: Tombi Peck
Cc: Tony Warren ; Shirley Willis ; Grice Stella ; Linda Thacker ; Nicky Fuller ; Jane Langham ; Janet McCreedy ; Addie Clarkson ; Dot
- 3. Sunday Tribune, Durban, 31 July 2005. 
- BIRTHS: CRAWLEY-CINNOTT Darrylin & Joe 'n seun Tyr Baylon *22/07/2005 in
Middlesex England, kleinseun vir Robbie en Michelle.
HILL Chris & Debbie 'n dogter Erin Leigh *26/07/2005 in Uhmlanga.
LAUNSPACH Trevor & Nicola 'n seun Nathan Ferdinand *28/07/2005 broer vir
PATERSON Michael & Shirley se 1st kleinkind, Gregory Scott*29/07/2005, mamma
*ROETS, in Westville Hospitaal.
RALFE/SLADE Jimmy & Sally 'n dogter Cara Lyn * 18/7/2005 in St Annes in PMB,
suster vir Tayla Anne.
SHELLEY Brett &
- 4. Re: [ZA-EC] Cumberland HILL and his descendants 
- Oh dear. Trying to assist you and not making any significant impact must be
Have you retrieved these documents from the Archives yet? Maybe a brother,
son, cousin, nephew or father?
DESCRIPTION HILL, DAVID ALBERT.
DESCRIPTION HILL, DAVID.
- 5. Fw: Wills 
- Hi Everyone,
I passed the very helpful sailing list websites provided by you guys on to
my fellow researcher, my 5th cousin, Sukie Hunter...she responded thus...
We are anxious to find exactly when my great great grandfather, Herbert
Howard Browne (married Maria Susannah Wilhelmina Hart) sailed to the Cape,
and on which ship...as you can see the supposition is that he travelled to
the Cape in about 1840/41...so if anyone is reasearching their own family
journeys and you happen to see the name Herbert Brown
- 6. Patrick and also Jeffrey 
- Dear Viv
Thanks so much for the information you provided from your archives. I was about to post a request if anyone had any information on the children of Benjamin Patrick- he seems to have been a very busy man!!
Thanks so much for all this transcribing. Wow you are wonderful.
Does anyone on the list have a picture of Benjamin Patrick??? (Forever hopeful.)
- 7. Re: [ZA-EC] ADMIN - Searching EC's Archives 
- I'll have a homebrew to toast to you & all those that have taken the time to
it'ill be just about ready by then !!!
- 8. Fw: Birthday wishes 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marielle Ford"
To: "Eastern Cape"
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:17 AM
Subject: Birthday wishes
> "Veels geluk liewe maatjie, omdat jy verjaar! " (Afrikaans for Happy
Birthday to you!)
> Well done to everyone on the EC list for friendly and continuous
contributions and to our Commander in Chief for her tireless efforts!
- 9. Re: [ZA-EC] Warner 
- Hi Mike
Have you seen this transcribe that was posted by Peter Kirkman
<< Harold White WARNER b. 13 Sep 1897 Kokstad, d. 21 Dec 1973, near Qumbu,
m. 8 Apr 1925 Florence Maria JEFFERIES, b 18 Nov 1898 East London, d. 21 Dec
1973 near Qumbu. Harold White WARNER continued the family tradition of
working for Native affairs, and spent his working life as a magistrate and
- 10. Re: [ZA-EC] Ship "Northampton" info from Brit Maritime Records.... 
- Hi Coral,
Thanks so much - we must have been on this website at the same time! I
found it difficult to search but cam e up with this very same doc. I then
went into PMB archives, but there is hardly anything around the dates 1848 -
1860, unless I am using the wrong search words. I tried ship, shipping,
persons, lists, Northampton, e[i]mmigrants, and a few more. Not much at
all, nothing relevant. I think I should visit the PMB archives - maybe
there is more, just not on NAAIRS.
I also found KIMBELL's
- 11. Re: [ZA-EC] Happy Birthday 
- I just want to add my good wishes and thanks to you, Becky, for the personal interest you
take in your list members and the extra effort you make for each individual one of us.
This is such a busy and interesting list.
- 12. Re: [ZA-EC] Ship "Northampton" / KYMDELL 
- Hi Kathryn,
I found the Genesreunited site and tried to register but do not have a
credit card - by choice, and a cheque will take too long to reach them! My
curiosity is at a peak now to know whether Jan Hendryk KYMDELL has done any
Would you be so kind as to send him my e-mail address and ask him to contact
me or vice versa?
Thanks for all the help and advice.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathryn Bax"
- 13. Re: [ZA-IB] Photographers (was SAP;CMR) 
- On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Tombi Peck wrote:
> The photograph was taken by Leslie W. Ford in Queenstown. (that might
> be of interest to Ford researchers too)...
This reminds me: I have photographs (c. 1900-1910?) taken by "C. Birkett,
Cathcart". Has anyone any documentation for any BIRKETT in Cathcart?
- 14. Re: [ZA-EC] BRADFIELD 
- Another little snippet. During the Kat river Rebellion of 1851 Alexander
Mcgillewie was ordered to rgo with a Fingo force and Alice commando to Fort
Armstrong held by the rebels. John Bradfield's house was in flames and
Alexander managed to rescue only two books. Alexander and Lydia were then
living in Alice
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leanne Starkey"
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BRADFI
- 15. The Mercury, Durban, Thurs. 18 Aug 2005. 
- QUICKQUIP: "It is our responsibilities, not ourselves, that we should
take seriously." Peter USTINOV.
BIRTHS: DAITZ/KAPLAN Neil & Benita 'n seun.
DE BEER/SCOTT Jason & Fiona 'n seun Josh David *16/08/2005 in
Parklands. Grootouers Irene & Stuart, Lynne & Ted.
HATHORN/WALLACE Mark & Lynn 'n seun *15/08/2005 in Richardsbaai.
HERSELMAN Theo & Tania 'n dogter Emma *9/07/2005 in Parklands.
McKEOWN/WALLACE Jonathan & Jeannie 'n seun James Patrick * 14 Aug 2005 in
Westville. Eerste kleinkind vir Neil
- 16. Re: [ZA-EC] Bottcher/Feye 
- Hi Mike
Lets start with these two entries found in on the SA Archives website.
DESCRIPTION BOTTCHER, CHARLES FREDERICK W. LIQUIDATION AND
DESCRIPTION BOTTCHER, C
- 17. Extracts from Grahamstown Journal May - June 1851 
- Taken from CO53/17 National Archives, Kew, London. I
have no further knowledge of people mentioned here,
having merely transcribed the information from the
newspapers, but these entries were photographed at Kew
using a digital camera, some in better focus than
others, and transcribed at home, so if you are related
to someone mentioned I may be able to send you a .jpg
file of the entry on the understanding that it would
be for personal use and not for publication on a
website, which would violate my digital
- 18. References to living - right of reply 
- Thanks to all listers who commented on my enquiry about the rights and
wrongs of references to living people. Obviously different opinions and
no clear answer, but, I think, a useful expression of views.
Yes, I know that someone with malicious intent can readily find out
details about anyone these days, but my main concern was more about the
kind of information divulged. I was prompted to make the posting after
reading a message telling all and sundry about another suffering from
cancer and in a bad
- 19. Re: [ZA-EC] Ship "Northampton" / KYMDELL 
- Hi Val,
I sent you an e-mail...only just found the South Africa L site...I have
photographs of Richard George Tainton (got a bit of flash on it as it was
taken in a storeroom at the Amathola Museum in King, there is also one of
his wife Amelia Lockington Stanger (taken same place)...he was the eldest
son of Richard and Ann Tainton...he's my great great grandfather...I have
photographs too of his son Richard Allen Knowden Tainton and his wife Amy
Mary Rachel Lloyd (grand daughter of Henry James Lloyd and Re
- 20. Re: [ZA-EC] SHORT & KESTELLE 
- I have Eliza Emma KESTELL (b1837) , daughter of John
KESTELL and Jane KING, married to John SHORT. No other
details known. Can someone fill in the blanks?
Did they have any children?
Are there any KESTELL photos around?
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- 21. Re: [ZA-EC] THORNHILL 
- Hi Sha
I've been meaning to tell you that Loerie is closer to Gamtoos than
Thornhill. Not sure if there is an Anglican Church in this hamlet, although
there is a DRC. I know that Vic has transcribed tombstones in this area and
maybe can assist your further?
Vic is a subscriber of EC , but here's his contact details just in case.
Hankey is more inland and oranges and nuts are mainly farmed here. There has
to be a cemetery there too.
I don't have any historical information on the Ferry o
- 22. Reference to living persons 
- Hello all
A recent posting got me wondering about the guidelines and etiquette
concerning searching for (or mentioning) living persons. Im not an
expert, but I have seen plenty of family trees etc being put out for
public display or access, in which names are omitted, to be replaced
with Living JONES or Living VAN ZYL etc. This is a common-sense
approach to respecting privacy. Besides, who knows what debt-
collectors, or persons harbouring grudges are out there. After all
every message we post
- 23. Re: [ZA-EC] Morse-Jones Book look up please EVA, BARNES, PATRICK- REPLY 
- Dear Viv
re WILLIAM GRAY
Regret no, this is the first I have heard about him. Perhaps Coral Ann ???
Is there any further mention of William Gray in your book?
Have any other listers information on this gentleman??
> Do you or anyone else have more info [the family pedigree would be great!]
> on the William Gray mentioned below?
> Best regards,
> Viv Kymdell.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Foster, Coral A."
- 24. Re: [ZA-EC] BARNES & WEDDERBURN 
- Hi Norma
Have a look at this WEDDERBURN website.
One of the nicest family websites, but then maybe I am bias. Some of my
family links are here.
Then there is Paul's website which also has WEDDERBURN links.
Hope you find your link to BARNES.
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Sent: Monday, Augus
- 25. Re: [ZA-EC] School photo 
- I am so embarrassed...I could kill the person who sent it to me...he knew I
would fall for it!! Becky had a laugh too, and went on to say it was a jolly
good thing it wasn't a porn site!! I'd have had to go out and shoot myself!!
I won't do that again... not check out the site before I send the info! I
just thought it was SUCH a good idea!! I've recently been trying to see if
my grandmother's old school has pictures of her and her sisters....it had a
gastly name Queen Ethelburgha's in Harrowgate, Yorkshire!
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