Hola Jeremy, yes I would like history of Scots Church and members. I am
having trouble downloading attachments. Could you send me hard copy. I will
send stamps and cost of photocopying. Thanks Lois.
Lois Maddox
9 (D) Langthorn Close
Frampton Cotterell, Bristol BS36 2JH.
Having trouble contacting Lorna Bateman on e-mail - Andrew Lewis tried to
send message re Pickles family. No answer for 6 weeks. Is she o.k.?
Have you anything on the Lomas Church where I was Baptised?
My brother Edward was Baptis
Hi Jeremy,
Although I see no Lloyds on the document you very kindly sent me...many
thanks...It is interesting to see the various Liverpool agents and brokers
listed.
My lloyds moved from Middlesex,London to pre 1842 Montevideo and then between
1847-9 they went on to Buenos Aires until approx 1862 before settling back in
England at Liverpool.The father of the family was a shipsteward by the time
he appears on UK census in 1871 Liverpool.He had 3 children in Montevideo and
2 in Buenos aires (possibly mo
Is there any way of finding out more on this gentleman who was residing in Punta Arenas with his children in 1876 according to the British List. He is my Gt.Gt.Gt Grandfathers brother, I have been searching from him for two years. Any connection would be appreciated.
MRSJ.T.MOCE
P/NORTH N.Z
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> "pablo vidal" wrote:
> thanks for all your requests i'm looking for diego boe et margaret preston,
> who had left England with 7 or 8 children to Argentine in the early 1800s.
> i know it is not a good information, but as my mother didn't know her
> biological family, it's very difficult to us to have good information
> (town, date of birth, etc.) my family is in Buenos Aires (my mother make
> her own research) and, i'm living
Although I do not know or have not heard the name
Helsby, it is nice to know that there are some people
out there who have similar interests!
As for the mines of Bolivia, I, too am seeking info on
the old mines. My Italian grandfather, Enrique La
Placa, whose daughter married my grandfather, Frank
Edward FAWCETT in Bolivia, (my grandfather was with
the Antofagasta/Chile Railway), went out to Bolivia as
a mining engineer for either San Jose mine or Potosi
mine between 1896 and 1905. I have had no luck in
On 6 May 2001, wrote
>Is there any way of finding out more on [George S. King] who was residing
in Punta Arenas
>with his children in 1876?
Hello Jacqui,
Good question ! My answer is "Yes, probably, but it may be difficult".
In his paper, Martinic cites various primary sources -- none, however, at
the level of individual immigrants. You might start by checking the parish
registers for El Sagrado Corazon (1866-1928), and the registers of the
Registro Civil (1885-1932), both of whi
From Alan Longbottom @Pudsey
An Item re Peru
From Catalogue of the Library of the Surgeon General USA.
Probably now held at the NLM. Catalogue available on line.
AUTHOR Yule, A
DATE 1868
TOWN Lima, Peru
TITLE1 Sketch of the Lima Hospitals
NOTES See Medical Times & Gazette. London 1868 ii 613
----- Original Message -----
From: Margie Peters-Fawcett
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: [SOUTH-AM-E
For those of you interested in the Monte Grande Colony I took this
extract recently.:-
Extract from Casa Familia - spatial biographies in the 19 th
century PhD Thesis
by Diana Hernando. University of California. 1973.
The Lawrie Family (pages 166-249 inc).
The thesis contains considerable details of the lives and
activities of three generations of
this family starting with James Lawrie who emigrated to
Argentina as a member of the
Scottish Monte Grande colony.
James and Anne were part of th
Podrmas enviarme ese archivo?
Soy descendiente de uno de los colonos legados a Buenos Aires en 1825 en el
Simmetry, Hugh Robson.
Gonzalo Carbajal
At 17:01 23/05/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>James Dodds' monumental account of the establishment of the Scottish
>community in Argentina during the 19th century includes a list of the names
>of the 117 subscribers to the building fund for the first Scots church built
>in Buenos Aires. It forms a useful roll call of Scottish immigrants of the
>period of the 1830s. If
I have recently joined this list and have already found the British in South
America Database very useful. I will post to this list a number of extracts
that I have made regarding Brits in Brazil, mostly from PRO files.
BRITISH CONSULATE - PORTO ALEGRE - CORRESPONDENCE REGISTER 1881-1916 [FO
589/1] - notes re British residents etc 1881-1898
7 Jul 1881: Roland NEW, resident Porto Alegre. Apptd attorney father Herbert
Mew, Evesham Worcs. Assocd: Armishaw New & Co, Liverpool; G W Armishaw &
Co, Porto Al
Further to earlier references to burials at the British Cemetery at Para
(drawing on PRO file FO 743/13), further information emerges from some
documents on file FO 743/12 (capitalisation of surnames and [...] is
editorial). There are many inconsistencies here and with the other list -
but the following is as written.
a) note of 20 Mar 1855 from Para Hospital announcing the death of a pauper
British subject, Peter O'NEIL.
b) typed note dated 1905 of tombs in the English Cemetary: James CAMPBELL,
Archibal
Soy descendiente de los primeros colonos escoceses que llegaron a Buenos
Aires an la dicada de 1820.
Tengo algzn material que puede ser interesante a quienes estin buescando
informacisn.
Gonzalo Carbajal
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
gonzalo@dirpro.com.ar
A few more names from the British community at Para in 19th century have
emerged from ongoing research:
John GAY: shot at Para by an Indian in the 1835 Cabanagem insurrection -
body recovered and interred by crew of HMS Racehorse on 20 Jul 1835.
William MILLS: shot at Para in Aug 1835 - body recovered and interred in
English burial ground on 16 Jul 1836, also by HMS Racehorse crew.
Three English evacuees from Para to Maranham in Jul 1835 wre impoverished
and were given modest funds from the British Consu
I have come across the following information in Mulhall M. G. and E. T,
'Handbook of the River Plate Republics', 1869. It was giving useful
information for would-be settlers from Britain in the River Plate republics
in the late 1860s and 1870s.
'A list of the businesses in Buenos Aires owned by the British there'.
If any one would like a copy in RTF format, please request it at
jeremy@howat.karoo.co.uk .
Jeremy
James Dodds' monumental account of the establishment of the Scottish
community in Argentina during the 19th century includes a list of the names
of the 117 subscribers to the building fund for the first Scots church built
in Buenos Aires. It forms a useful roll call of Scottish immigrants of the
period of the 1830s. If anyone would like a copy of the file in RTF format
(text format can alternatively be sent if requested) send me an email at
jeremy@howat.net .
At Rio de Janeiro on 26 May 1836 "sixty six British Residents comprising,
with very few exceptions, the whole of the British mercantile body in this
City" presented a memorial to the British Chargi d'Affaires (William Gore
Ouseley) concerning the appointment of the British Chaplain. Earlier, the
British residents had signed a petition on 23 Jan 1836 seeking
representations against a new police power to require a "permission to
reside" against payment of a charge and under threat of imprisonment,
contrary
Margie,
You may be interested to know
There have been 8 enqiries for Peru over the past 2 years and I have 256
items of data for Peru
This compares with 60 enqiries and 3133 data items for Argentina
Best wishes
Neil Hampshire
The Brits in South America database at http://www.bisa.btinternet.co.uk/
keeps a record of all postings to the Roots South American Emmigration
Mailiing List
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From: Margie Peters-Fawcett
To:
Sent: Wednesday, M
Mateo Martinic (Instituto de la Patagonia) has made a detailed study of the
various immigrant groups among the early population of the Magallanes
territory, Chile. During the period 1870-1890, Swiss and British arrivals were
the most numerous, accounting for almost half of all immigrants (141 and 137
respectively, from a total of 598).
His list of British immigrants is given below. Surnames are arranged
alphabetically, and "British" first names have been translated. In some cases,
occupation and/or the nam
I have come across the information below in Mulhall M. G. and E. T,
'Handbook of the River Plate Republics', 1869. It gives useful information
for would-be settlers in the River Plate republics in the 1870s, and for
today's historians.
Argentine weights and measurements of distance and ground area:
1 arroba is equivalent to 25 lbs
4 arrobas equals 1 quintal
20 quintales equals 1 ton
80 arrobas equals 1 ton
2000 lbs is equivalent to 1 ton (therefore a Spanish ton is 240 lbs less
than an English ton)
1 var
Hola Graeme:
respondo en castellano porque mi inglis es muy malo.
te paso resumidamente la lmnea descendiente:
1. Hugh Robson - Jane Ferrish (o Farries)
2. Hugh Robson - Jane Rogers
3. Elizabeth (Bessie) Robson - Josi Manzano
4. Bessie Manzano - Ernesto A. Devoto
5. Marma Susana Devoto - Jorge Carbajal
6. Gonzalo Carbajal
Soy de la 6* generacisn. Csmo es el nombre de tu esposa y cual es su
relacisn co
Hi Margie and others
I am actually looking for the name HELSBY in Peru and Bolivia, probably no
descendants there now, but you never know. Three Helsby brothers were well
known photographers in South America in the period circa 1840 to 1860, doing
the Daguerrotype photos. They eventually set up a studio in Valparaiso but
had photographed Peru and Bolivia, perhaps some of the earliest photos ever
taken of Bolivia.
I also believe a Helsby (not too sure if one of the three brothers) had
interests in silver
Hola Gonzalo
In message <5.1.0.14.2.20010529222904.00a70220@dirpro.com.ar> you wrote:
> Hola Graeme:
> respondo en castellano porque mi inglis es muy malo.
Mi castellano es muy, muy malo.
> te paso resumidamente la lmnea descendiente:
>
> 1. Hugh Robson - Jane Ferrish (o Farries)
> 2. Hugh Robson - Jane Rogers
> 3. Elizabeth (Bessie) Robson - Josi Manzano
> 4. Bessie Manzano - Ernesto A. Devoto
> 5. Marma Susana Devoto - Jorge Carbaj
Hello Graeme,
Yes I am still subscribing to the list, but have come out of retirement
and will continue to be pressed for time for a few months. I know from
contemporary correspondence that Jane Robson was married to my great great
uncle James Tweedie RAMSAY (not RAMSEY) but I too have two candidates for
which Jane Robson! The most likely would have been only 13 at marriage!
All this from unreliable memory, but I will get back to doing some proper
research as soon as I can.
regards,
Arthur Thomson.
Graeme
Is there any way I can find anything on the Kings in the list for Punta
Arenas. The George S and probably the others, are my Gt.Gt.Grandfathers
relations. I have been searching for a long time for this family. Anything
would most appreciated
MRSJ.T.MOCE
P/NORTH N.Z
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From: Campbell-Grace
To:
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:29 PM
Subject: [SOUTH-AM-EMI-L] British Immigrants: Magallanes, Chile (1870 to
1890)
> Mateo Martinic
There are few records of the British community in Para, Brazil. A British
Cemetery was established there in about 1815 and the last burial is believed
to have been in 1885 - it seems to have been used also by other foreign
Protestants in the city, and even by some Jews. In a slim file in the UK
Public Record Office (FO 743/13) are some papers about the cemetery - mainly
raising money in 1908 for restoration work - but also a little sheaf of
pencil notes which appears to list some of the burials there, p