Hola Ramsn:
Solo recibm un menaje tuyo desde Italia y te contesti pero parece que no lo recibiste. Bueno, te decia que el saco no es importante, solo costs 175 dolares aprox. Lo que pass es que tratandose del Sumiya Camino Real pensi que lo regresarian de inmediato, sobretodo que lo reporti el mismo dia. Te lo encargui porque pensi que no te daria ningun problema. Pero ya dijalo por la paz.
Bueno, vamos nosotros a Tampico, como te habia dicho, el sabado 18 y regresamos el viernes 24 de este mes. Asi
Hola Ramon:
No te preocupes por el saco. No tiene importancia, Cuando te lo mencioni fue solo para que te lo enviaran a ti y lo guardaras tu. Es todo. El saco costs como 185 dolares, asi que no es la gran cosa. Pensi que por ser el Camino Real seria algo de rutina.
Bueno, espero que te haya ido muy bien en Italia. Del 18 al 25 de noviembre iremos a Tampico para estar unos dias con mi mama, aprovechando que no hay clases para las chicas.
El resto del tiempo, estaremos en casa hasta fin de aqo. Veng
Hi everyone! I haven't heard much on the Toca-L list for awhile so I
thought I would remind everyone of some of the resources available.
Clicking on the link below (or cut and paste the URL into your browser) will
take you to a page on RootsWeb that allows you to search the messages on the
mail list. Anything put on the list will be saved for future researchers.
Please be sure and add anything you may find - something small to you today
may be an important bit of information for a Toca cousin somewhere e
I lost my email send before , but the idea is as follow:
In "Familias Cubanas" books appear a Toca family in Cuba , this family is a
same that the family of Xavier Toca from Barcelona , and thanks to Xavier we
up-date the arbol.
In that case the first Toca we know D. Rafael Antonio de Toca y Echeguren
was married with Dqa. Ignacia Gomez y Hano.
They had two childrens D. Santiago Sebastian de Toca y Gomez and D. Rafael
de Toca y Gomez .
The point is that i found a new brother , D. Jeronimo de Toc
I don't have further information on Euphemie. I have some info on
Augustine. She apparently wed early. If she was born in 1843 per the 1850
census, then she was only 15 when she wed.
Marriage information from the New Orleans Genesis, vol. 1, page 47, Orleans
Parish, Louisiana, marriages appearing in New Orleans Newspapers and other
publications 1700's - 1900's. BERNOS, Louis TOCA, Augustine Nov. 6, 1858.
New Orleans Genesis also records "Jules Louis BURAS (BURAT) et Deseree
Augustin TOCA, Annee 1857"
We continue with the investigation of the Spanish Tocas and the French
Rendon Delilles:
Previously we found in the St. Louis Church records that Jose Toca was a
witness to his father-in-laws second marriage on 14 August 1802.
Unfortunately the next entry shows that Nicholas Rendon Delisle (@
Delille) died the following year on 1 December 1803. His age is listed
as 70. This would indicate that he was born around 1732 in France. What
I find interesting is that a 69 year old man was able to find a wife and
re
Good point on possibility of error. Not just clerk problem, I've seen
records that were written in quill pen ink that bled through to the other
side making the record difficult to read. I found the original Louisiana
Jose Alonzo Toca listed as "S" Toca in a respected and widely referred to
publication of census indexes.
I reviewed the microfilm copy of the 1810 census referred to and was able to
determine the "S" was really a "J", written in the flowing script of the
time and mistaken for the wrong letter
Hi everyone. Thought I was pass along a little census work I did on
Philippe Toca (my direct line desendent).
It is interesting that in 1850 he had moved from New Orleans and was no
located up river in St. James Parish (near Baton Rouge) and is listed as
a teacher. The census lists two daughters, Augustine and Euphemie. I am
having trouble tracing them. If anyone knows any history on them please
forward.
Thanks,
Glenn Toca
New Orleans
1850 CENSUS
NAME AGE GENDER
PHILIPPE 41 M
AMALIE (CREVO
From the St. Louis Church records:
One of the children of Jose Toca
Juan Domingo De Toca (parents: Jose Alonso De Toca, native of the city
of Santander in Spain, and Ysavel (Isabelle) Delille, native of
Marseilles in France, both residents of this city (New Orleans) baptism:
29 July 1802, born: 12 MAY 1802, PATERNAL GRANDPARENTS: Francisco
Alonso De Toca and Magalena Bermudes Barriga (Santander, Spain) MATERNAL
GRANDPARENTS:
Nicolas Ronde Delille and Marta Rembert, SPONSORS: Juan Sardina and
Margarita Du
>
> Going against my theory is the 1850 census showing no land owned by either
> brother. I just have no record or hint of an "Armand" Toca.
>
> Does "Armand" have a meaning in Spanish or French as a title perhaps instead
> of a first name?
Charles,
I don't think so, but will check. It seems that in those early days the
Clerks in the courts were notorious for spelling errors and sometimes
just putting what they wanted into the file ledgers. It is possible that
the clerk meant "Antoine." I'll check fur
Recently Charles posted to the list information about the Toca -
Leonard Duel. Below are the newspaper accounts of the duel (differs
somewhat from the Kendall account written many years later):
LE COURRIER DE LA LOUISIANE
NOUVELLE - ORLEANS, SAMEDI 22 MARS 1845
"DUEL"
"A duel was fought today between Mr. Gilbert Leonard and Mr. Phillip
(sic) Toca, both of the Parish of Plaquemines - weapons, double-barrel
guns. Mr. Leonard received the ball of his advesary on one of his ribs,
which was broken. The wo
In a social Book 1960? in a latin comunity in Miami appear :
Caridad Abril Viuda de Lopez-Toca
daugthers:
Chary Lopez-Toca
Teresa Lopez-Toca
Carmen Lopez-Toca
grand-daughters
Francisco Firmat Lopez-Toca
Mary Firmat Lopez-Toca
Reinaldo Firmat Lopez-Toca
Carmen Firmat Lopez-Toca
Ricardo Lopez-Toca
Teresita Lopez-Toca
Note: When the hispanic came to the United States lost the second Surname.
In some cases , when the persons doesn't want to loose the second surname
because is important or loved for them
Glenn, it would be great if you could do more research on this. I have
always assumed that the "plantation" may have been owned by Philippe's
brother, and as you discovered, his twin, Antoine. Antoine died/was killed
in St. Bernard Parish in 1852 and the 1850 census recorded him in St.
Bernard. On the other hand, Philippe was in St. James Parish as you show in
your other post. I had assumed that Phillipe obtained the property as his
surviving brother. The only other surviving brother was Joseph Alonzo
Great research Glenn! Of course, the more you give, the more I want....
Can you provide references to sources. I assume these are the St. Louis
Cathedral, New Orleans. Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records. If
you know the volume number, etc. that would be helpful. I can reference it
in my records until I can review the originals myself. Great stuff - it's
interesting to me how short life was in the last part of the 18th and first
part of the 19th centuries - how often people had to remarry
To the Toca List;
I ran across some information which may have already been posted so
please forgive me if you have already seen this. As we already know,
when Jose De Toca @ Jose Toca came to New Orleans (Nouvelle Orleans @
Nuevo Orleans) he married a French girl by the name of Isavel (Isabelle)
Rendon Delisle (Delille). Below is the information obtained from the
Saint Louis Church records:
REDON DELISLE (@ DELILLE)
Isavel Virginia (parents: Nicholas Ronde Delille and Marta Rembert)
native of Marseilles
To: Toca List
There has been some speculation about when we can place the first Toca
in America (New Orleans). I did some searching and so far have been able
to show through records an approximate time of August 1797. So far, this
is the earliest documented evidence of a Toca in New Orleans.
On 1 August 1797, Jose De Toca is listed as a witness at the wedding of
Jose Viola and Dorotea Segovia. The St. Louis Church records indicate
further that Viola is from Santander (I wonder if Jose and Viola knew
ea
I found a reference to the TOCA PLANTATION at the University of New
Orleans Library. It seems that in 1970 a graduate student by the name of
Louise Pauline Kaitenbaugh did a study of place names in St. Bernard
Parish for her thesis and mentions the town of TOCA.
Her information indicates that TOCA was originally a plantation owned by
ARMAND TOCA. Philippe Toca is listed as owner in 1848. The reference
cited for this is ETAT DELA LOUISIANE (1848).
Glenn Toca
New Orleans
I'd like to share all the information I have on who I believe to be the
grandson of the first Toca in Louisiana. I'm confident of much of the
information I've assigned to Joseph based on my research. However, I've
also assigned a body of research to him with less confidence. Some of this
information has been attached to him not because I have a definite
connection to him, but because it doesn't fit anyone else. I've copied my
notes below with some comments at the end. I'd appreciate feedback from
anyon
Children of Jose and Isavel De Toca:
Twins:
Antonio Phelipe and Juan Phelipe (later known as Philippe - the one
involved in the famous duel) born 26 May 1809 and baptised 26 July 1809.
Source: SLC, B22, 10 AND 11
FROM: Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records, Volume 9,
1807-1809, p.112
Maria de los Dolores, born ca. Nov. 1806, baptised ca. 23 June 1807,
died ca. 6 August 1807, at 10 months.
Source: birth: SLC, B20, 79
death: SLC, F6, 125
FROM: Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records,
A daughter of Jose and Isavel De Toca:
Luisa Margarita Thomasa
Born: 18 September 1811
Baptised: 24 November 1811
SOURCE: SLC, B22, 163)
FROM: Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records, Volume 10
1810-1812, P. 141
Glenn Toca
New Orleans
The information below explains some basic information about the list. I'll
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Toca cousins - I just received some more unwanted email (spam) through the
TOCA-L list so you must've received it also.
I'm sorry for that - RootsWeb is actually able to stop much of that from
getting through. They send me the spam they delete so I can judge if it is
something that actually should get through.
However, in spite of their defenses, some does get through and I apologize
for that. Please just delete and don't respond. I guess it's the price we
pay for such a great thing as the internet!
C
Born to Jose and Isavel De Toca:
Jose
Born: 6 May 1800
Baptised: 8 April 1801
This appears to be the first Louisiana born Toca to Jose De Toca and
Isavel Delille. I should point out also that it appears that the child
was born out of wedlock as Jose and Isavel were married on 24 March
1802. It also appears that Isavel may have been pregnant at the time of
her marriage because Juan Domingo was born 12 May 1802.
I should point out that my research into the social mores of New
Orleans at this time
To Charles and list:
As previously requested, here is the information on the death of Isavel
Virginia Delille De Toca, the wife of the first Louisiana Toca.
The information is from Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records,
Volume 11, 1813-1815. The entry is under the family name of Delille
instead of Toca.
DELILLE
Isavel Virginia (Nicolas and Marta
Rembert, natives of Marseilles
[dept. of Bouches-du-Rhone]), resident
of this city, widow of Joseph DE TOCA Y
BERMUDES, ca. 43 yr.,