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1. RE: [UK-W&H] Medway Union Workhouse [1]
>Hi > >Does anyone have any recommendations for the best books to use for the Medway workhouse? > >Thanks >Donna Hello Donna There is some interesting information in "Chatham Past" by Philip MacDougall (ISBN: 1860771211), and at the following web sites: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/ http://cityark.medway.go.uk/ (Archive information on-line - some background info) http://www.historicmedway.co.uk/ (Photographs) I'd recommend all of them, but I'll admit that
2. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
LOLOL Bob #14.99 on it way VBG Liz >From: "Arcadia" >Reply-To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:22:41 +0100 > >I'm sure there are many. We seem to be cursed by this middle class >mentality of assuming that the rest of us are at all interested in their >short comings. Rather than seek help they feel that they have to turn >every minor event in their lives into a boo
3. Re: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
> But Don't dismiss middle class memoirs though - all memories are > fascinating, and a narrow class reaction will not do. Try 'Edwardian > Childhoods' by Thea someone (?>?Musgrave_ which collects stories right > across the classes, from poor ag lab and cripple from Lambeth to gentry > child. > Hear Hear, It is my experience that you will often find someone who with a bit of education, hard work and luck manages to transcend these so called "class barriers". A case in point is my 1st cousin 3x removed Sir
4. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
LOLOL Bob #14.99 on it way VBG Liz >From: "Arcadia" >Reply-To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:22:41 +0100 > >I'm sure there are many. We seem to be cursed by this middle class >mentality of assuming that the rest of us are at all interested in their >short comings. Rather than seek help they feel that they have to turn >every minor event in their lives into a boo
5. Re: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
thea musgrave - composer?
6. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
On 19 Jun 04, at 11:22, Arcadia wrote: I'm sure there are many. We seem to be cursed by this middle class mentality of assuming that the rest of us are at all interested in their short comings. Rather than seek help they feel that they have to turn every minor event in their lives into a book, and then flog it around the chat shows. I suppose faced with the choices of getting a life and boring the rest of humanity with their petty little problems, the middle classes choose the latter. Beats working I s
7. Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
you mention divorce - do you mean an actual divorce - or an annulment of the marriage which was pursued through the church - often but not exclusively RC, on the grounds that their was some reason why the marraige wasnt legal in the first place, people did this when divorce wasnt available Liz >From: Eve McLaughlin >Reply-To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:07
8. RE: [UK-W&H] Mary MOORE Kildare orphan [0.984371]
please could people post info to the list, I have people who went to Australia as well from that region Liz >From: "june saville" >Reply-To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >To: UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [UK-W&H] Mary MOORE Kildare orphan >Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:53:58 +1000 > >My relative Mary Moore was an Irish famine orphan who travelled to >Australia on the 'Maria' in 1850. She previously lived in Athy, KIldare, >and her parents were Patrick and Br
9. RE: [UK-W&H] Medway Union Workhouse [0.984371]
I think Jason's bias is well justified. Anyone interested in workhouses will want to go to http://www.historicmedway.co.uk/ and follow the link to The Workhouse (All Saints Hospital) This, Jason says, is the 1849 replacement for the original Oliver Twist workhouse - And you can tour it on-line! Best Wishes Andrew On 1 Jun 04, at 12:53, jason.ross@bigfoot.com wrote: >Hi > >Does anyone have any recommendations for the best books to use for the Medway workhouse? > >Thanks >Donna Hello Donna There
10. Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
First let me thank all the list members again for their wonderful input on this subject. Below is the reply sent to me by the Birmingham archives. I hope it may help anyone else on the list who has an interest. Cris Van Hal: Ontario, Canada St. Philip's Ragged School was opened in 1846 by the rector of St. Philip's, the Rev. Grantham Munton Yorke. It was initially housed in a hired workshop at no. 19 Lichfield Street, Birmingham. The school provided training for boys and girls in mending and making c
11. thanks [0.984371]
Thank you to everyone who replied to my query about Dudlicks. I've now concluded it to be Dudlick's Lodging House. Next task is to try to locate it. Does anyone know if you can search for such a place using the 1881 cds? Unfortunately my relative was an inmate in the workhouse at the census date so I can't just search on his name. Do lodging houses appear in trade directories? Thanks Frances
12. Medway Union Workhouse [0.984371]
Hi Does anyone have any recommendations for the best books to use for the Medway workhouse? Thanks Donna
13. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
It is always fascinating to see what gets picked up when you post to these groups. I am not dismissing middle class memoirs, or any memoirs, come to that. There are a lot of very interesting books out there, and as most books are written by the middle classes then it follows that they must be capable of writing something worth while. My only objection is this idea by the middle classes that they should write about their every experience, as if we are at all interested. They then see it as their duty to d
14. Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
Hi Liz: A couple of things about annulment - I think the Roman Catholic church was in a fairly small minority in England post-Reformation, so this approach would not have been an option for most people. Secondly, to get an annulment I think you had to prove something like bigamy, or that the marriage had not been consummated (which meant there would have been no children.) So, as in my father's case, I think people simply moved on and went about their lives. It looks as if my father fell out with
15. RE: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
Hi Chris, You may already have done this, but I Googled Gem Street and, in addition to finding the census entry for the school in 1891, I found a reference to the existence of 'one record' on the school at the Birmingham City Archives, comprising '1859-1984 : minutes, admission registers etc': http://www.hmc.gov.uk/nra/searches/SIdocs.asp?SIR=23787 I'm not sure how many of your questions that record would answer and since I see you're in Canada you may have a little difficulty getting to the archives your
16. Re: [UK-W&H] William Robert Willcocks, Workhouse master [0.984371]
In message <40D4B4C1.2070205@comcast.net>, Martin Willcocks writes >Hi Eve: > >You really are a storehouse of great information, and this helps a lot. >Since Robert moved around the country quite a lot, it's probable that he >didn't get the job in 1858 but later on, so I think the National Archive >is the best bet if not available from Dorset RO. Would that be in >Dorchester? Dorset Archives, archives@dorsetcc.gov.uk 9 Bridport Rd Dorchester t
17. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
I'm sure there are many. We seem to be cursed by this middle class mentality of assuming that the rest of us are at all interested in their short comings. Rather than seek help they feel that they have to turn every minor event in their lives into a book, and then flog it around the chat shows. I suppose faced with the choices of getting a life and boring the rest of humanity with their petty little problems, the middle classes choose the latter. Beats working I suppose. I wonder what her next book w
18. Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
Industrial Schools came in all shapes and sizes. The first were established in England (maybe earlier in Scotland) in the late 1850s and early 1860s. Originally intended to deal with young offenders their scope was widened to include those who otherwise would have been destitute, perhaps because their parents had split up (no divorce for the poor in those days) or because both had died or because one had been put in prison. Others were sent to Industrial Schools, generally by the local magistrates, because
19. Re: [UK-W&H] Does anyone know where/what this place was? [0.984371]
Hi Frances, There appears to be no lodging house, or individual person, named Dudlick(s) in London/Middlesex listed in the 1881 census. Lodging houses are normally listed as things like "address (Lodging House)" rather than "X's Lodging House" The only lodging houses listed as such in Bethnal Green are: 5 & 6 Nichol Row Common Lodging House, Bethnal Green 47 New Nichol St Lodging House, Bethnal Green 48 New Nichol St Lodging House, Bethnal Green 21 Half Nichol St Lodging House, Bethnal Green 41 New Nichol
20. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
Hello Andrew, You certainly didn't offend me. I was just having a bit of fun, not intended to be at your expense by the way. I think that for someone to claim that they are traumatised by something which happened three generations earlier is pushing the realms of credibility, unless there's a book deal in there somewhere. I'm sure there are plenty of family stories which are of interest, and as someone who is researching their own family I think it is important, however, your description of Ms Busby's b
21. Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
In message <002801c43235$545aaa60$f62e7ad5@h3n9w8>, Pauline Neill writes >Tuesday 15th June 2002 > >Hello Jim, > >I am trying to trace divorced ancestors, but you say that there was >no divorce 'for the poor' in the mid 1800s. Was this only the poor who >could not get divorced ? and could you kindly tell me when divorce records >actually Pre 1850, divorce was only practical if you knew a Member of Parliamnet to put through a Bill for you. From 18509, divorce was technically possib
22. Re: [UK-W&H] Gem Street Industrial School [0.984371]
Hello Pauline, Prior to 1857, when the law was changed, the only route to divorce was through Act of Parliament, so it is hardly surprising that between the mid-16th c and the mid 19th c that not many more than 300 divorces had taken place in England! The Matrimonial Causes Act of 1857 changed that and the divorce rate rose, but it was still far too expensive and difficult a process for ordinary people, and quite out of the question for those who were poor. In 1910 the number of divorces was no more than 5
23. Re: [UK-W&H] Does anyone know where/what this place was? [0.984371]
Hi Frances, How about Dudlicks Lodging House? Peter Higginbotham www.workhouses.org.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "T.F.Mitchell" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:51 PM > > Subject: [UK-W&H] Does anyone know where/what this place was? > > > > > > > Dear listers, > > > > > > I have just subscribed to this list having found my G.G.G Grandfather > was > > in and out of Bethnal Green workhouse for more than 10 years. I have just
24. RE: [UK-W&H] Painful family secrets [0.984371]
From Andrew Roberts web address: http://www.mdx.ac.uk/www/study/ studymore@blueyonder.co.uk Dear Bob and everyone I am sorry to have caused offence by my email. It was certainly not intended and I hope this one does not add to the offence. I wrote because I was interested in what was being said and I thought the book was relevant in the way I described. I think family research is very valuable and I would like it if more people wrote it up. I would like to hear about other people's accounts and I
25. Re: [UK-W&H] Does anyone know where/what this place was? [0.984371]
Thanks I never thought of that but now it's obvious. Frances ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Higginbotham" To: Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Does anyone know where/what this place was? > Hi Frances, > > How about Dudlicks Lodging House? > > Peter Higginbotham > www.workhouses.org.uk > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "T.F.Mitchell" > > > To:
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