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Hi Ken, my Kittler test for AS16 reversed DYS385a/b from 13/14 to 14/13. Am
I in the 16 count under I1a-AS (generic and misc) H/L of your list or have
others reported a Kittler test for AS16 clade? If so what were their
results? Thanks, Bryan Cook FTDNA 79328, Y-Search 9HXQ4
-----Original Message-----
From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com
[mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Nordtvedt
Sent: December 10, 2007 1:12 PM
To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-L@rootsweb.com; GENEALOGY-DNA-L
I don't see a "0" for the 65267 haplotype in either the BlackPotomacValley
or I1c project displays. I see a blank box like the the whole middle panel
is blank. Is that what you mean?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 53/54 markers match
>> Ken,
>> Thanks for the information. It is the Phillips, Black Potomac Valley and
>> the I1c projects at FTDNA that have me listed
I have added a powerpoint file EstimatingChances.ppt to my website http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net
It is an illustration of a segment of Y-Tree which should help in following my estimation below of how many nucleotide sites in the y chromosome need to be looked at to find a new SNP which separates haplotypes of one clade from another.
Suppose you were to search four dna samples, two of the samples from Clade-A but with haplotypes of good GD between them, and two of the samples from Clade-B but with hap
"Present" is probably 6,000 years further to the right --- about the age of
the I1a MRCA. The zero of time was arbitrarily put at about the breakup of
"I" into its multiple branches. So all together I reckon that breakup to be
about 24,000 years ago.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Felix"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Origins of the British
> The confusing part is that it shows 18K to the right
I have noticed that both the P-series and S-series SNPs that are publically known do not all appear in the browsers some people have created for finding information on SNPs. Specifically, some of these SNPs have rs....... numbers and some do not. Is there any meaning to that? Or is it just incomplete paper work on the part of the discoverers? Or is it incomplete browser data collection?
The M-series SNPs seem to be more thoroughly tied to rs........ numbers.
Ken
By all means folks, use SMGF resources to their fullest. But I'm closing on
69 so funnel new information my way by the fastest channel possible. Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Hill"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: [DNA-HG-I] DYS462
>
> My previous message was posted with no body message for some odd reason,
> so I am resending.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
I wish more folks in much of haplogroup I would do the Kittler test which tells you which of your DYS385 repeats is located at which site in the ydna --- assuming the repeats are different. Below I tabulate the Kittler results I know of to date in each of the identified clades in haplogroup I. The list is sadly short. Kittler data is one of the cheapest and quickest ways that new clades can be discovered. After each clade name I give number of Kittler results which were high / low or low / high. Some c
I will insert spaces sorry about that (FT DNA order) I just cut and pasted from the result table. Any thoughts we had thought this might be Viking or Germanic.
I1b 13 24 17 11 14 15 11 13 12 13 11 31 18 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 12 14 15 15 10 11 21 22 15 12 18 18 35 35 11 10
Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, PLCGS
Guild of one-name studies #4600 - LAMBDEN, PINCOMBE and SIDERFIN
Webpage: http://ca.geocities.com/kippeeb@rogers.com/
----- Original Message ----
From: Elizabeth Kipp
To: y-dna-haplo
Ken,
Your plea hit home. I have ordered a new 67 marker test from FTDNA
(since my other test was from another company)
To be followed with a Kittler test as I am 13-16 at DYS385
Kyle
-----Original Message-----
From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com
[mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Nordtvedt
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:12 PM
To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-L@rootsweb.com; GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [DNA-HG-I] Kittler Report --- Do a Kittler!
I wish more f
Ken,
On your earlier recommendation, I was planning to have the Ethnoancestry I1a S-series SNPs done. Since my FTDNA testing did not include P40, I had e-mailed Ethnoancestry for their recommendation as to whether I should include this. I've had no response What would you recommend and would it be best to have those done before proceeding to the new SNPs?
My YSearch ID is RQD7Y
Regards
Ron Bartlett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt"
To:
After some people responded to my message about the new I1a SNPs, S107 to S111, now available at Ethnoancestry, indicating they could not find the new SNPs, I send the link for ordering them I received from EA.
Ken
http://www.ethnoancestry.com/I1a.html#new
The confusing part is that it shows 18K to the right at present. I do know what you mean now though.
The haplotype tree will document the oldest markers of the founder haplotypes based on a set of premises. It will be an extension of this paper:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg8hv2jm_10f5kdq9
I picked up an eastern euro/Med. old I1c with 13 at marker 392 in an old research paper and it is now appearing on the I1c clan project.
Merry Christmas,
Gary
Mexico DNA Project Admin.
Is there a good table of ydna STR marker locations in the chromosome which would include both DYS462 and DYs511. I am wondering if they happen to be close to each other?
Ken
Your haplotype fits best into my "maverick" group, and you seem to have
three close matches with other surnames --- Herrick, Harrod, and
Robinson --- which are also in the group.
Needless to say all "mavericks" should have DYS462 measured.
Note I1a-AS is the older of the basic I1a types. One can be DYS390 = 23 and
DYS385 = 14-14 with only two mutations from the norm for I1a-AS, 390 = 22
and 385 = 13-14. My "mavericks" are mostly of this motif. One can
conjecture that they eventually will have a DY
Ken,
If "The P41+ sample is 19 at 448 and 29 at 449" can we conclude that if 448 &
449 do not have these values then the person is P41-? Or is the sample too
small to draw such conclusions?
Thanks, Victor
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:07:25 -0700, you wrote:
>With the kind cooperation of University of Arizona I had some of the P41+ dna material transfered to FTDNA where I purchased an extended haplotype measurement. I did this because all the P41 test results (negative) which I had seen were on I1b1-Dinaric
Is that you with the very unusual 20-20 at YCAIIa,b ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Bartlett"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New I1a SNPs Available
> Ken,
> On your earlier recommendation, I was planning to have the Ethnoancestry
> I1a S-series SNPs done. Since my FTDNA testing did not include P40, I had
> e-mailed Ethnoancestry for their recommendation as to whether I should
> include this. I've h
Well, maybe one clue might be to learn what is different from the
BlackPotomacValley link you gave out an hour ago, and the one below?
I just returned to the one in your email of an hour ago, clicked into the
site, and the STR boxes from 425 to 446 are simply blank, with no "0"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Threadgill"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 53/54 markers match
> Ken,
> This is what I
This just a friendly reminder to please change the subject line as needed. I much prefer something like 'Clan MacMillan Surname Group' rather than 'Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I Digest, Vol 2, Issue 314'.
Thanks.
Aaron
List Moderator> From: dmcduke@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [DNA-HG-I] Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I Digest, Vol 2, Issue 314> > We did a quick study in the Clan MacMillan surname group....
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I have updated some files in my y-haplogroup I website http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net
The spreadsheet of founder (modal) haplotypes for clades in y-haplogroup I has been cleaned up, converted to FTDNA repeat conventions (but not FTDNA order)
I'm still missing some modal values for SMGF markers sometimes difficult to determine for clades identified by certain marker values. If anyone sees any errors or omissions please contact me; I'd appreciate the input.
My WarpedFoundersTree in both powerpoint and
It's perhaps a coin flip with this one observation: more folks have
probably tested P40 than the new S-series SNPs, and still P40 remains
equivalent with the other I1a SNPs. That means to me that the new S-series
SNPs deserve more testing.
I'll go look at your haplotype (although Ysearch is presently down) to see
if it suggests any additional point.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Bartlett"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:4
Ken and David,
When I received my results they did not included markers 48 thru and
including 60. It was when I visited several of the projects that I
belong to that I realized the 446 was listed as null. I rechecked my
info from FTDNA and knew they had not tested 446. And David, I am
wondering why the results when uploaded by FTDNA shoe that when it
hasn't even been tested.
Ken, I haven't received the results on my 425 yet, but an anxiously
waiting for them. :) My Phillips match does have a null val