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- 26. [DVHH] Roll Call 
- Another new person with Roll Call. Thanking Ron Gretz for his help in getting me this far along.
Witzmann/Panzner, Witzmann/Muller, Muller/ Lippert, Witzmann/Nuber, Panzner/Eberling,
Panzner/Katalyi, Panzner/Walter, Eberling/Frech, Eberling/Wolf, Wolf/Sdruhar, Frech/Protitsch,
Frech/Brucker, Protitsch/Hagemann, Hagemann/Ther, Protitsch/Dolt
Muller/Weinmann, Muller/Koch, Weinmann/Klopfer
- 27. Re: [DVHH] Query 
- Hello Kati,
Go here "One Step"
Click on the Manifest button, then read about recovering a lost manifest. Usually (I think) you can find the immigration information by reading their census record it ussually tells when and where ...........Best of my knowledge.
Kati Angelini wrote: Thank you for the information Kurt. I actually confirmed that Paul is
my mom's great uncle and bought the family
burial plot in
- 28. Re: [DVHH] Kula 
- Interestingly I just hit this subject in a mail with Jakob Gvtz today.
There he mentioned that Paul Scherer has published the very good Orstsippenbuch Kula.
Hope that helps,
SCHWIND(T) - BECHTLER - SCHEPP
ANTONI - GUTWEIN - HUTH
LOHRMANN - MICHEL - WILL
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
- 29. Re: [DVHH] FW: Re: Banat Schwabian Ancestry 
Indeed I have 3 pictures of me beside the grave marker of my great
grandfather. I can scan them. I believe the lady in the picture is an aunt/great
aunt still living (at the time) in Schag. It is very difficult to see the
dates it is easy to see the name.
This is a forward. I have nothing for Marc
beyond what's in the Lenauheim FB. In addition
to what Alex and John have already offered, maybe
someone else can help Marc with his Schag and
grave marker questions. ...Ja
- 30. Re: [DVHH] Naming children 
- Lori -- not sure if anyone responded to this yet but the likely answer is
that the child was being named for the godparent. If you have the church
records you would see that. This was quite common. Susan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori Straus"
To: "DVHH List"
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: [DVHH] Naming children
> In going through families in both Hungary and Romania, I noticed that
> if a child died, the ne
- 31. [DVHH] Nicholas Schilzonyi - Musical Reed Pipe Instrument Invention 1916 
- Looks like our Nicholas was also an inventor! Noelle Giesse discovered this document online. Amazing what can be found. It's exciting to see to what extend Nic's talents were.
Musical Reed Pipe Instrument Invention
Inventor: Niklas Shilzony
Musical Reed Pipe Instrument / Application Filed 16 Aug. 1916
Patented Dec. 17, 1918 / Attorney: James R. Townsend
Thank you Noelle!
- 32. Re: [DVHH] Kovil Szent Ivan 
- I assume you mean the Batschka town. It's listed at
FHL microfilm listed.
Alternate names are )ajka9,Sajka9ki Sveti
Nearby is Waldneudorf (Budisava, Tiszakalmanfalva, with FHL film # 639199.
- 33. Re: [DVHH] Fw: [BANAT-L] Who decided that? Reversing Camps? 
- I believe that at one time Mauthausen was also a concentration camp. If it
then became a DP camp, it reminds me of an allegation that in many cases the
camps stayed the same, only the inmates became the new administrators, and
the old administrators became the new inmates. In a first-person story I
once read, the 'new administrator' bragged that he could kill as many
inmates in a month as the 'old administration' had managed to kill in a
year. If it is true, that too is history, but for the sake of balance
- 34. Re: [DVHH] Naming children 
- ---Urspr|ngliche Nachricht---
From: "email@example.com" <000809005087-0001@T-Online.de>
To: "Susan Williams"
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Naming children
Hello Lori, hello Susan,
I think that it was allways about to get the first names of the "parents".
If the father was a Philipp, the firstborn son was named after him.
If the mother was a Katharina, the firstborn daughter was named after her.
It4s fact when this first childs died that the other siblings become (in highe
- 35. Re: [DVHH] Banat Schwabian Ancestry 
- Hi Marc,
Congratulations on joining the search for your roots: it's a very
rewarding hobby to engage in :) I lived in the Sauerland for about a
year - absolutely beautiful region. The website www.sauerland.com is
a modern-day tourist website. They don't appear to have an English
translation - but the pictures will at least give you an idea of
where your ancestors came from. Many homes there are very old and
must be built and retained in a certain architectural style. Happy to
share with you a
- 36. [DVHH] Kutschera. 
- Dear Members.
Wow! - I have to check the information with relatives to see if we are on
the right track. I'm sure this is the correct information.
To all of you who provided me with your information, THANK YOU.
With a little guidance from some list members postings, and if you say the
word Sandorhaasen, is mentioned in one of the documents, I believe the
following might be your answer. Is you noticed the Kutschera was common name
in the Banat. Keep in mind, many of them re settled
- 37. [DVHH] Poem and flaowers 
- Dear Nancy,
Tell Alex to go ahead and use the poem. I am all for contributing towards flowers. Perhaps if too much gets donated it could be arranged to have more than one delivery about a week or so apart. It is later on that the tragedy really sinks in. Let us know where to send the money.
Donating what's left to a good cause is another option.
- 38. [DVHH] STEIGELE (HUTH) 
- Hello Eve,
yes, I have this Maria Elisabetha HUTH in my files too. She was born 31 oct 1825 and married Peter STEIGELE from Tscherwenka. But then I couldn't find this Peter in the Tscherwenka-file of Angela Hefner (see http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/AKdFF/tscherw.pdf).
There are only notes about the following STEIGELE / STEICHELE / STEICHELIN:
Steigele Franz * 06.10.1829 in Tschw + 02.02.1870 in Altker Sv 056/165 Philipp u Roth Kathar.
oo 16.11.1847 Tschw Schdfer Katharina * 23
- 39. Re: [DVHH] Does anyone have any LETT's maybe LEICHT? One was b. BUNKINBATSHKA late 1800's 
The name is Leth (Lett). Did you mean Bukin (Bunkin.
There were Leths (Lett) from Dt-Lorrain. went to Bruckenau/Banat (Catholic)
in 1752. To Gertianosch. Some went to Apatin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt McCrary"
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: [DVHH] Does anyone have any LETT's maybe LEICHT? One was b.
BUNKINBATSHKA late 1800's
Looking for the where abouts of the LETT family in the late 1800's
- 40. [DVHH] Hockl 
- Hello Marc.
You seem to have lots of information on family, here's more information which might help you in your research.
Hockl; (Hokell, in Berghausen; Huckel, Huckl; to Lenauheim/Banat; first Huckl, Hukl, Hukel, then Hockel, Hockl, after 1800, Hockl) Johann Mathias, son of Anton Huckl and Anne Maria Piper, b. in Berghausen, North West from Schmallenberg/Saul, b.ca 21.1.1717, to Deutsch-St.Peter/Banat, in 1766. in 1767, to Lenauheim/Banat, d.21.1.1774, as Huckl. m.28.5.1748, in Berghausen, as Huckel, to
- 41. Re: [DVHH] Ruttinger Lookup in Gajdobra OSB 
Thanks for checking! The Ruttinger name is not very common from all that I have seen. I've only seen in mentioned in Gajdobra and it is also listed on the Feldenzer Palanka site as a surname for Palanka.
My gut feeling here is that I'm probably one generation off from Gajdobra. My guess is that Anton Ruttinger was probably born in Mitrowitz, and his father was from Gajdobra. Of course, I won't know for sure until I can find records for Mitrowitz (not easy).
- 42. [DVHH] -Roll Call 2008 Banat & Batschka 
- I'm searching the following areas
BOGAROSCH - Schlupp, Prunkl, Cherier, Schipper
Schlupp also written Schloup originally from Bannay Lorraine
Schipper Fulda Hessen Germany
UIHEL - Schlupp, Gimpel, Schipper
GROSS JETSCHA - Gimpel
PARABUTSCH - Graeff, Wangler, Moritz
HODSCHAG - Graeff, Wangler, Moritz
Anita Schlupp Temniuk
- 43. Re: [DVHH] Naming children 
- No Lori, it is not narrow-sighted. Remember too that with the Catholic
religion, the name had to also be a recognized Saint's name. Hence people
celebrate birth dates and name day - I know I am writing this wrong there
has been a very recent discussion on Name Days.
And sometimes the choices of names did seem to come from a small handful of
acceptable names. I guess if you think about, it will become clear. If
you always named for the godparents, then the name pool was limited to
family and clo
- 44. [DVHH] FW: Re: match found GUTWEIN/LOHRMANN 
- Hello Darlene and Noelle,
Brigitte Wolf has confirmed that there was only ONE marriage for Adam Friedrich Gutwein in the records. This was the marriage with Maria Helena Christina JANTZEN. This marriage is also confirmed in the marriage records of the children.
Among the children, Philipp Karl was child no.4 and Wilhelmine was child no.6 of the SAME parents.
See original mail from Brigtte in German below.
Regards from Brigitte
and translator Annette
- 45. [DVHH] Roll Call 
Alexanderhausen, Arad, Baratzhausen, Billed,Bogarosch,Csatad, GrJetscha, GrKikinda, Hodon, Johannisfeld,Knees, Temeschburg Fabrikstadt
Temeschburg Franzstadt, Warjasch
- 46. Re: [DVHH] Fw: [BANAT-L] Who decided that? 
- I don't think it can be said enough....all of you who endured these camps
showed courage and stamina we can all draw strength from. Thank you
Katherine for sharing your story. Susan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katharine Samuelson"
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: [BANAT-L] Who decided that?
Thank you for the information you so readily gave. But as you may not know
- 47. Re: [DVHH] Word look up please - Dienstknech 
- I kind of think this is not someone's name - but a "title" I think it could come more from the word Madchen meaning "girl"? - what you would call a "girl servant"??
From: Beth Tolfree
To: firstname.lastname@example.org; DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com; email@example.com
Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:33 am
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Word look up please - Dienstknech
I can't help with "Knech", but I've seen the abbreviation for the woman's name, Magdalena, wr
- 48. [DVHH] Fw: [BANAT-L] Who decided that? 
This is not from Linz, rather from Mauthausen, 20 Km from Linz
On the bottom of the page click "Totenbuch Mauthausen," On the right side
are the lists of names. To advance further on the right side, you have to
click on the column on the left side of the page, click on "bis 100" then
"bis 200". For example "bis 1100 will take you to the end of the names
under the letter, "A" . there are 40,653 names listed. But I don't know if
any DP's were on the list. It might be worth checking
- 49. [DVHH] arranged marriages 
- Hello All,
Arranged marriages definitely happened, more so among the very well off than ordinary people. Often they were not happy, but money had to marry money. Sometimes the young couples fell in love. Sometimes they loved someone else but were pressured by both families to marry as was arranged. In the years shortly after the war, when everyone had nothing, the not so young couples got together with their first love.
It was worst if a girl, sometimes no more than fifteen or sixteen years old, marrie
- 50. Re: [DVHH] ship manifests 
- Katie, can you forward the complete reference so we can have a look online.
Eileen> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:29:30 -0500> From: firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com> CC: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com; firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: [DVHH] ship manifests> > I have a question for you seasoned gen. experts. I am still attempting > to find my great grandmother's (Maria Wagner) ship manifest. I am > trying to narrow them down. In one of the ship manifests I find a > Maria Wagner from a place called
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