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- 351. Thanks 
- Well, having had my name mentioned on the list I had better introduce myself
to those of the group that do not know me. Of course some of you have known
me for a few years. I think that Barbara Neal still thinks [although not
very often now] that my only interest in Poythress research was to prove
that an old girl friend [of Lewis P. descent] and I were cousins. I have
waited [lurking] for someone to have a Poythress problem in 1850 instead of
1720. Alas, ya'll have the pleasure of Poythress in depth, where
- 352. Re: POYTHRESS LIST BIO STATEMENTS -- FIRST DRAFT LIST 
- Dear Al,
Thanks so much for the update on the bios. This does seem to give people some
idea to whom they are speaking. Connections are more likely for look-ups,
PLEASE NOTE THAT MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS NO LONGER BNCCOOK!!!
NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: CarBurCo@aol.com
Please write me at CARBURCO only
Thanks so much - CAROLINE BURNETT COOK
- 353. Rolfe-Poythress (Jane) 
- Poythress List,
Re: Maynard's Post re Jane Poythress & Thomas Rolfe
The significance of Jane Poythress to the Poythress line in America =
isn't great. I'll admit that. Still, it is important for several =
reasons. The first of these relates to what it tells us about Francis =
Poythress. Did he even have a daughter named Jane? If so, was she born =
and raised in Virginia, or was she an "Englishwoman" as some sources =
have suggested? Did the Poythress family have ties to the Rolfe family =
- 354. My one and only (so far) POYTHRESS 
- Happy to have found you people. Thought I'd run my lady by you
for inspection. A chart on my mother's background (maiden name
THORNTON) was done by a professional 40 or 50 years ago but it
left out a lot of detail. My gg grandfather, Daniel McCarty Fitzhugh
THORNTON married Mary Jackson DADE, daughter of General
Lawrrence Taliaferro DADE, of Orange Co., VA and later of
Owensboro, KY. The general's wife was Ann(e) MAYO. Her
parents were William MAYO "of Powhattan Seat" and Elizabeth B.
POYTHRESS. I hav
- 355. Re-send re GGS 
- Re-send notice on Georgia Genealogical Society is below:
Subj: Georgia Genealogical Society
Date: 97-04-23 09:18:07 EDT
To: POYTHRESS@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu (Poythress Family discussion list)
Since we have picked up a few folks recently with interests in Georgia, you
may be interested in knowing that the Ga. Gene. Soc. is now on line. Home
- 356. Poythress is Portugese? Why not? 
- I take it from the correspondence that I've seen on the subject that =
most list members are descended from Francis Poythress of southside =
Virginia, and that the recent suggestions that he may not have been of =
pure English origins is disturbing, or fascinating, to some, if not =
many. Please take the following as pure intellectual debate -- I =
certainly don't have the facts to support an argument one way or the =
We know that Francis Poythress came to Virginia from England, but does =
- 357. Need another Thomas? 
- Hey, guys & gals, just in case the 3 or 4 Thomas'es that are confusing us
already aren't enough, here is one that for sure has to be one of mine. If
he was a few years later I could say he was one of Barbara Neal's boys who
snuck over from Alabama just to cause trouble.
"Georgia State Gazette, issue of November 7, 1789 [Burke County], Term of
The Superior Court orders that the presentments of the Grand Jury of the
present term be published in the State Gazette:
"....(grievance #7)...We present J
- 358. Re: Tri Racial Poythresses 
- CarBurCo@aol.com wrote:
> Sure Jean,
> I'm interested. Tell us all about your family. You are welcome here as are
> all the many-spelled Poythresses and intertested parties, as well as all
> interesting topics. Are you sure your message got through or could it have
> gotten caught in the AOL mail problem we've been having?
> Tell us about your Poythresses and tell us how many ways THEY spelled it?
In 1822, a man named --------brought a group of Portuguese stone mason
to the Northa
- 359. Re: Dortch Query by Lillian Decker 
- Lillian and List,
Re: Dortch -- Poythress Connection
For starters (and I believe there is more to the story than this)
the following is a key issue for several of us. Barbara Poythress
Wolfe and Barbara Poythress Neal (both list subscribers) have been
on this topic of some time.
In the Poythress family we have Mary Speed Dortch marrying
David Poythress (M.B. 17 Dec. 1827, Surety: Issac
Taylor, Consent: Ann Dortch) near Petersburg, Virginia. The
1850 Mecklenburg County, Virginia census shows David as
- 360. Pursuing Poyntz/Poythress 
- Below is letter to a lady in UK turned up by Al Tims. This is a shot in =
dark but better than no shot at all.
If I sound tentative and very much like a supplicant in this matter, plea=
appreciate that I had my head handed back to me in a similiar query to th=
Exalted Grand High Lizard of the Pace family who did not take kindly to e=
having to answer a query from a Poythress commoner whom he perceived as
trying to crash his family. An extra measure of diplomacy was suggested =
me by the e
- 361. Re: Grace Poythress 
- In response to BPN's question about the correct death date of Grace
Poythress. The April 10, 1984 date is incorrect. Grace did die in March
of 1984. All of the death dates except for Margaret came from the
social security index. The more exact dates are missing among the piles
of data that we have on five families. Will correct post with exact
dates when we locate information.
Charles Neal wrote:
> Re Nell Tims' posting on 4/19/97 about the deaths of all the daughters of James
- 362. Re: Dortch Query by Lillian Decker 
- Thank You,
Here is all I have on Mary Speed Dortch. I do have in my computer 4000
Dortch names provided by BW Dortch. I have documented my Dortch line to
1720, Isle of Wight, Va. Be glad to share what I have plus the information
His research looks very good.
Mary Speed Dortch b, 1746 in VA>
Died abt 1807 in Franklin Co., GA.
No parents given.
> From: Albert R. Tims
> To: Poythress Family discussion list
- 363. Re: Poythress girls death dates 
- To All,
While going through my moms papers I found this. I had already heard the
story from Marlene Shamburger Lee, a cousin.Not only did they all die in
March, but notice the day of some of them.Willie Mae Poythress Trest
died March 10,1982,Rosa Wise Poythress Fitts March 10,1983, Grace Beulah
Poythress Mccraw Smith March 5,1992, Annie Grice Poythress Shamburger
March 5,1992, Margaret Elizabeth Poythress Speed Clancy March 19,1997.
If you need this information, the two boys who died were, James Stroble
- 364. Re: Bolling/Poythress 
- Hey, Craig....I apologize for not giving "the tout" for you....its something
I usually always remember and it slipped by me this time.
- 365. Re: good ship HOPEWELL 
- VKRatliff@aol.com wrote:
> Randy....ooooh....neat post, so that's how Hopewell got its name...having the
> ship's name to hook to should be a real post.
> Re: Eppes & Poythress both named Francis.....I wouldn't be inclined to make a
> whole lot out of that....I have read in several places that Francis was a
> "buzz name" of the day for Royalists but not Puritans. But granted, its not
> something to stick one's head in the sand about.
> You got any more on good ship Hopewell? I didn't see a word i
- 366. Tri Racial Poythresses 
- I would like to encourage a discussion of the Tri racial finding I
have been posting to the list. I figured if I just plain said :
Let's talk about it, ya'll would. But no takers yet. Come on folks.
I am a POYTHRESS. Have been all my life. Let me here from some one
else out there who finds this cultural diversity interesting.?????
Got a little Indian in me, got a little black, and got a little
Portuguese. Anyone else???????? besides Pocahontas.
Jean POYTHRESS Spille
- 367. Re: Portuguese Poythresses (4-26-97) 
- Jean.....How you suppose those folks got into Northhampton? You know, one
could be skeptical of given names like Richard and James as
"coincidental"....but there is absolutely no way two separate families can
pull names out of the air like Littlebury and Hardiman...those two names are
scattered all over the family and in numerous generations many years apart.
I'm going to speculate, at least for myself, that the reason I haven't found
them was because I wasn't looking.....I just locked in on counties Chas
- 368. Re: GA Land Lotteries 
- Hi Maynard and other POYTHRESS researchers,
I suspect that both Maynard and I are floundering abit in this GA
Lottery discussion. I agree with Maynard; the only thing you can take
from the lists is the fact a "person of that name" was living in a
certain county -- where the lists were drawn up, not where he MIGHT have
"won" the land -- at the time the names were taken. Specifically,
Grace Davidson _Early Records of GA, vol I and II: Wilkes Co_, reprint
1992 So.Historical Press says about the 1832 Lo
- 369. Re: good ship HOPEWELL 
- At 02:12 AM 4/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>While I'm at it -- how about the Bolling family? Was there a
>Bristol/Gloucestershire connection among these families?
I'm finding Yorkshire for the BOLLINGS -- this is an undocumented
file sent to lists a year ago -- and has some info which I consider in
error One line that came to VA was in london area mid-1660s for
married the dau of Thomas Clarke of London. I've seen this other places.
However, Robert BOLLING of Chas City and Pr Geo Co. VA was son
- 370. Re: Re-send 
- Poythress List,
Re: Maynard's info below.
The Francis and William you have correspond to the entries shown for
the LVA collection. I guess we still don't know if this is the same
Francis we see in Georgia. Is there any way to determine the locations
of the land, or other relevant information?
> >From "Virginia Revolutionary War Records, chapter: Army and Navy Bounty
> Land Warrants:
> Officer names: Poythress, William
> Rank: Capt. Lieut. (?)
- 371. Military units & Poythress folks, 4/26/97 
- In preparation for our upcoming trip this coming week to the northern edge of
Florida, in Gadsden & Jackson counties, I had located on a telephone CD Rom two
Poythress men who had phone numbers in Chattahoochee, FL, with no street
I wrote a letter addressed to both of them & sent 2 copies of the letter & two
stamped envelopes with a cover letter to the Chattahoochee Postmaster, asking
him/her to deliver them. In the letter I mentioned what little bits of proof I
have, regarding Poythresses who w
- 372. Re: Need another Thomas? 
- Hi everyone,
As a lurker on this list, I can finally give something back.
>connected to Francis? Any clues as to what might
>have prompted Francis to venture to the Peach State?
Land in GA was "given" to Rev. War soldiers -- many, many VA
families moved into Wilkes Co -- "mother" of several. I have a long
list of Dinwiddie Co. VA folk who went to GA in this period. Linda
Linda Sparks Starr
- 373. Re: Portugese 
- There is a Gowen surname foundation on-line with some info on Melungeons, a
group of people they surmise are Portugese descendents.
Here are two of their newsletters:
- 374. Re: Mary Poythress Epes 
- Poythress List,
Re: Jean's Spille's Epes Query
Here's a new one. Can anyone relate.
C. Stith was Cincinnatus P. Stith, son of Putnam Stith and Mary
Poythress Epes. He was born about 1842 in Nottoway Co., VA. Five of his
siblings are buried in Blandford Cemetery, Petersburg.
Jean, this one I can answer!
1. Mary Poythress Epes was the fourth child of
Francis and Sally (Williams) Epes.
2. Her father (Francis) was a member of the
House of Delegat
- 375. Re: NGS Library 
- Maynard, actually NGS in in Arlington. But if you are coming to town you
would be better off hoping the metro for the Library of Congress. Who knows
what you might turn up in the manuscript collections. And be sure to let me
know, I have always wanted to be able to put a face with the name. Reston is
only about 50 miles from me.
At 11:31 PM 4/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Daughter Leigh has just finished doing the computers at the Columbia (aka
>Darth Vader) hospital in Cleveland. She w
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