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- 501. Jean Spille's post of Darlene Wilson on Melungeon 
- Poythress List and Jean,
Jean, thanks for sharing the wonderful analysis by Darlene Wilson from
UK. I think what we are starting to see is a growing focus in
genealogical research toward broader social-historical perspectives.
This certainly is my main interest.
The significance of our family histories goes well beyond deed books,
wills, marriage and immigration records. I think our list is doing
exactly what we wanted by giving us an opportunity to learn from one
another and to broaden our understa
- 502. 4/4/97 Welcome to Bud 
Welcome to the List, and glad to hear the cataract surgery went so well.
Yes, in answer to your question, I did get the first message as well as the
second message. Thanks for the refresher on what Kathy Best had found and
surmised re Meredith, et al.
Good to hear from you
Barbara Poythress Neal email@example.com
- 503. WORSHAM (fwd) 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
To: Multiple recipients of list
I descend form William WORSHAM (1600's) married Elizabeth who (m.(2)
William and Elizabeth WORSHAM had:
John WORSHAM* m.Mary WYNNE
Mary WORSHAM m.Richard LIGGON
Elizabeth WORSHAM m.Richard Kennon
- 504. 4/6 re George W. POYTHRESS(es?) 
- Re Craig's message about George W. Poythress in the Confederate Army:
I pulled both of the compiled Confederate Army service records, and the records
(I think) are indeed for the same guy, mainly because both show enlistment at
the same place on the same day by the same captain, plus their compiled service
jackets are cross-referenced to one another. Naming boys after "George
Washington" became very popular at one point, so it might not be too unusual
that there happened to be 2 George W[ashington] Poythr
- 505. Name Patterns 
- We have discussed this before. I picked up the attached off the VA-Roots
list. While it is not exactly as we have worked with in the past, its fairly
ENGLISH NAME PATTERNS 1700-1875
1st son---------------father's father
2nd son---------------mother's father
4th son---------------father's eldest brother
1st daughter----------mother's mother
2nd daughter----------father's mother
- 506. Melungeons 
- Jean Spille: check out today's (Apr. 14) Wall Street Journal. On page B1 is
what appeared to me to be excellent article on Melungeons. No doubt you know
a lot of it but to this uniniatiated one the article seemed to me to be
exceptionally well done and informative.
- 507. Re: A Real Live Poythress Researcher in England! 
- Poythress List,
Re: Maynard's Post Below:
Nothing would please me more... I was hoping you'd take the bait!
> Al: hot damn! Wow and double Wow! As the manager says to the salesman who
> has just stumbled into a world class prospect that the manager was too lazy
> to find himself: "Gimmie that briefcase, boy, I'm outa here on the way to
> see that guy".
> Foregoing just an irresistable little jovial cameo from the grimy ol'
> business world. Anyway, I'll
- 508. Change of server 
- Greetings everyone:
I have signed off as XSNP35A@Prodigy.com and signed on as HMCM28@aol.com.
Congratulations to all who are doing such good work. Hope to contribute
something in the future.
Claude Raymond Poythress
44 Adna Pearce Road
Zebulon, NC 27597
- 509. Re: BIO's for the LIST 
- Dear Maynard,
I did as you said and it bounced back! So I retyped (having never perfected
cut and paste) and sent it to firstname.lastname@example.org. Think someone will
answer at last. I tried to be as succinct as possible.
Caroline the Persistent
- 510. Re: Poythress Spelling Variants 
- I believe that we have to deal with the issue that there are two kinds of
people in the world. Those that are Poythresses and know how to spell their
own name and others who have the pleasure of writing the name in records and
don't have the pleasure of knowing how to spell the name and would rather
guess than ask. I missed finding my Benjamin Poythress for years in the 1850
census because it was spelled PORTESS. Of course in the 1850 Personnal
Property it was spelled properly.
At 11:26 PM 4/11/97
- 511. Re: Jane Pierce --- Rolfe Marraige 
- Poythress List,
Re: Craig Scott's Posting on Jane Pierce
"I am in a quandry. I am trying to locate the article in _The Magazine
Virginia Genealogy_ or in _The Virginia Genealogist_ which I read years
which seemed to demonstrate that the wife of Thomas Rolfe was a Jane
who was not Jane Poythress, daughter of Francis. Any help with citation
appreceated. If it is a preponderance of the evidence issue we might as
bring it out into the open and trash it about."
- 512. Post as Information 
- Following posted as an interesting historical curio:
Bill of Sale Merideth Poythress to William Cleaton dated 1 March
1786: (transcribed from photostat of original record by Maynard
2 December 1993)
*Merideth spelled with the "i" first instead of the "e" first as later.
*unless Merideth had inherited someone's household goods, it can be
suggested that he is selling his household goods to his father-in-law
William Cleaton preparatory to moving to Georgia.
*had Edith Cleat
- 513. Roll of Va. Taxpayers 
- Virginia Tax Payers 1782-1787, Genealogical Pub. Co. Baltimore, MD.
Name Poll Slaves County
Poythress, Joshua 1 24 Prince George
Poythress, Mary - 18 Prince George
Poythress, Mary - 10 Prince George
Poythress, Meridith - - Brunswick
Poythress, Thomas 2 6 Brunswick
Poythress, William 1 16 Prince George
- 514. Re: Poythress/Portis/Isle of Wight 
Sorry I was confused about your reference to Gwathmey, because I had only
mentioned it because of the odd sound and aptness to misspelling
Gwathmey/Gwaltney/Gaffney. I finally read this closely.
Is this excerpt from the Birmingham, ALABAMA public Library? That is my
town of origin and I go back there quite a bit. I noticed that several of my
family names (although NOT Ransom) are in that excerpt: Jordan, for instance.
The time period for Thomas and Edward indicate that I should look more
- 515. VKRatliff 
- Al et al re the mystic comments on :VKRatliff. As a name, it attracts just
about as many curious ones as Poythress.
As a counter-revolutionary English major I have long held the view that
Faulkner is the only thing worth reading that wasn't written with a feather.
I'm sure others exist who have made 3 round trips through Uncle Billy but I
don't know any of them. Anyway, I was brain dead from an afternoon in the
Snopes trilogy when I signed on to AOL.
The first thing that popped into my head when they wo
- 516. Re: Tri Racial Poythresses & Spellin' 
I have been a silent reader of this group. Someone at one time saw my
query about DORTCH they answered by saying that POYTHRESS were connected
in some way. Does any one know in what way?
> From: Albert R. Tims
> To: Poythress Family discussion list
> Subject: Re: Tri Racial Poythresses & Spellin'
> Date: Saturday, April 12, 1997 7:32 PM
> Jean and Poythress List,
> Re: Tri Racial Poythresses
- 517. Re: Monday 4/28/97 Posts 
- Poythress List,
There are so many great posts today!
1. Craig Scott gives us a possible new immigrant. As I think about it,
would the entry read like this if James Poythress was simply returning
from a visit to London? I think not, but a confirmation would be
2. Randy Jones offers to help with a Web Page project. Randy, I'm very
interested in your offer, but need to get my ducks in a row before I
float a proposal. Won't be long. This is very kind of you! Thanks.
3. Jean Spille is reall
- 518. Re: Benjamin Poythress 
- Poythress List,
Subject: Caroline Burnett Cook's posting about Benjamin Poythress.
I have the following reference to a Benjamin Poythress in 1775.
I have no way of knowing if it represents a connection or not.
Will continue to look.
Virginia State Archives
Division of slaves of William Poythress, dec'd. By decree of Prince
George Co. Court, July, 1775, we have divided the slaves William
Poythress died possessed of, between the plaintiffs John Gordon and Lucy
his wife, An
- 519. query on the net 
- Poythress List
I found this while surfing the net. It was posted at
POYTHRESS - Looking for information on the Poythress family who
migrated to Georgia around 1840 from parts near Charleston,
SC. Any information would be appreciated. Contact: Cameron
- 520. Re: Mail digest 
- BARBARA AND CHARLES;
On your trip, please keep your eyes open for anyone named KIZIAH (it's
biblical, by the way, one of Job's daughters) Porthress's parents. ALSO the
two misplaced RANSOM boys: ROBERT AND BENJAMIN C (maybe for Clevers) Portress
or whatever. born in the 1780's. Kiziah was probably their aunt. THANK YOU.
You never know. The Ransoms lived in Murphreesboro, Tn., where your Poythress
fought in the Revolution and Richard Payne Ransom was also in that battle, I
believe. Near in PROXIMITY if n
- 521. Re: Craig's Requested Citation 
Sorry I was not online last night to see your question re the Jane Pierce vs
Jane Poythress question. Last year, I finally put a Post-It flag sticking up
out of the VGS issue in question, so I could spot the proper issue more readily.
The article seems very well thought-out & well documented. It is:
Vol. 23, no. 3 (August 1985) issue of __Magazine of Virginia Genealogy__,
article entitled "The Descendants of Pocahontas: An Unclosed Case" by Elizabeth
Vann Moore and Richard Slatten, on pp. 3-16.
- 522. Portuguese, etc. 
- I don't think anybody is dodging you, Jane....I just think you got us
dumbfounded. With a boatload of Poythress information that says England (or
at least UK) folks spread all over the South after a start in Virginia vs.
slightly more than a couple of mentions and a couple of speculations on a
Portuguese origin beginning a century later.....that one is hard to get a
Maybe the way to have the list sink their teeth into it is to build a
proposition in a single post and hang it out there for evalu
- 523. Re: Poythress Spelling Variants 
- Julia, you have made my day!
You actually FOUND two of the spellings I had on MY Portis, etc Poythress
family who moved from NC to Tennessee. I THOUGHT it was the Tennesseans who
did it, but apparently not. Do you have any Benjamin C (or Clevers) or a
or a Kiziah or Kesiah or Kissie Portis, etc ....? 1763-1841 are her dates.
She was married to Richard Payne Ransom in Halifax VA or NC?? But I have had
several indications that she came from NC. Benjamin and Robert are a
generation younger tha
- 524. Re: re Pocahontas, Rolfe, et al. 
In the "revised" or new version which omits Jane Poythress in favor of a
marriage of Thomas directly to Ann Bolling it looked to me a first glance
that the authors had merely leap-frogged Jane. On further thought, it
strikes me that in this version all those millions of Pocahontas decendents
via a male Bolling line have really got a problem.
Other than the fact that Pocahontas attracts us a lot of customers (and its
doubtful if most of them are customers we particularly want) she has no
- 525. GA Land Lotteries 
- Linda Starr:
I guess I didn't make myself very clear in my post of information on these
I see more clearly now the problem I was looking at few years ago in
accumulating data on Poythress participation in the lotters. To my knowledge
(I hope I'm wrong) there is/was no state-wide alpha listing of participants.
The listings were alpha by counties. I know Georgia didn't have all 159
present day counties back then but they still had a bunch...enough to make it
look like a lifetime project.
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