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- 326. [ROOTS-L] 9th Family History Research Trip to the Allen County Public Library 
- Date: 28 May - 1 June 2008
Sponsored by the St. Charles County Genealogical Society and
St. Charles Community College History Department
The annual Family History Research Trip to the Allen County Library
(Fort Wayne, Indiana) features expert guidance from nationally-known
genealogist Michael John Neill, M.S. Michael is a columnist for Ancestry.com,
has led research trips to Ft. Wayne and Salt Lake City, and lectures
nationally on a wide variety of genealogy topics.
Michael will h
- 327. [ROOTS-L] Leskovansky, Sopkovich, Kacenga 
- A friend of mine asked me to find out if anyone on the list is familiar with
any of the following:
My grandmother was born Katherine Leskovansky Sopkovich in Koterbah,
My grandfather was Josef Kacenga in Uloza,Czechoslovakia (Hungary).
Patricia Rabich aka Rebic(k) Benetis
**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
- 328. [ROOTS-L] for Pallas, Mack D knight 
- Social Security Death Index Name: Mack Knight SSN: 533-38-3956 Last Residence: 98903 Yakima, Yakima, Washington, United States of America Born: 18 Jan 1895 Died: Feb 1967 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (1956-1957 Name: Mack D Knight Home in 1930: Yakima, Yakima, Washington Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Birthplace: North Dakota Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Geralda J Race: White
Household Members: Name Age Mack D Knight 35 Geralda J Knight 29 Richard M Knight 12 Do
- 329. [ROOTS-L] Bartlett family Information 
- I am trying to find any information I can on my grandfather's family.
Thomas Redkison Bartlett was born in New Zealand around the Nelson area we think, about 1888. He immigrated to Australia around 1910-12.
His father's name was Charles John Bartlett and his mother's name was Matilda Evelyn.
Charles committed suicide either just before my grandfather immigrated or just after. He was a builder by trade.
Any information would be gratefully accepted.
- 330. [ROOTS-L] I.O.P. 
- What is this guy hiding from. I have been doing my family tree for over 6 years and I found my name on their list and when I e-mail them about it they said they had my name from a family tree, But my name was for other cousin who was 20 years older then me and I got more info on my side of the family. This was a good deal for me and it did not upset me. I had nothing to hide. If some one was checking me out all they had to do was go on the internet and pay a fee to know all about me. The goverment has our n
- 331. Re: [ROOTS-L] Using census as a source 
- "Garbage in, garbage out".
You are so right, and it is not just census forms. All forms were filled
out by someone giving an oral history, whether it was a doctor after a
birth or a family member after a death. The events were just more recent
so hopefully fresher in their memories!
One of my Jamestown relatives has a will that consists of two witnesses'
statments as to what he declared on his deathbed. True story.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Jody Keiser wrote:
> I was finally able to track my great-grandf
- 332. Re: [ROOTS-L] copyright 
You seem to have quite a few misconceptions about copyright and what
constitutes "publishing" a work. Publishing is merely putting your words in a fixed
media of expression. If you write an email you have put your words in a
fixed media of expression, for instance. You don't have to formally publish a
book in order for your words to be copyrighted. Your statement about an
unpublished genealogy chart "even if it's found on the Internet" proves you do
understand what constitutes publis
- 333. Re: [ROOTS-L] Census info please 
- 1920 census information follows. Copy of census record sent offlist.
Home in 1920: Gaskill, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
Age: 21 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head of House: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: Evan
Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
- 334. [ROOTS-L] Frisco Railroad information 
- Hello: Frisco Railroad documents of employees is available through
this website. http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org (NO
www). >local History> Enthic....>local history>digitized
collections>The Frisco....>employee cards. These papers were given to
the library after the Frisco closed its office.They are very good
records of employees.
- 335. [ROOTS-L] Living people 
- I have heard several way of filling in names in FTM, Paf, and other programs.
1-living male/female with no birthdate
2-living male/female with birthdate
3-living persons name with no birthdate
4-living persons name with birthdate
5-living male/female with birthdate
Which is the best? I also heard it is OK to use names and birthdates of living persons as those who are born after 1930 will automatically be deleted.
- 336. Re: [ROOTS-L] Donahue from Kent and Cassnovia MI 
- Thank you, Vic for taking the trouble to look him up. The 1920 piece,
"parents born in MI" is the first clue I've had about where they
originated. I still can't find anything that hints what the Vermont
piece is. Maybe it's tied to another family member that I haven't
Racine WI sounds familiar for those dates, and I believe his daughter
was born there. The SSDI says that he died in Casnovia, Muskegon, MI
and that's probably where he was buried in Feb 1969. I can see where
- 337. Re: [ROOTS-L] To share or not 
- Lois, your answer to whether or not to share is right with my thinking.
When my cousin (#2) requested that I not publish his work with mine, he didn't
specify not to share names, dates, and "public knowledge" info. That frees me
to send the essentials without revealing private info. I will see how much
my cousin #1 is intent on putting this in his family tree online, and will
take it from there. Anyway, the info I received, and am most thrilled about.
dates back to the 1700s. By sending h
- 338. [ROOTS-L] personal evidence 
- I sat in the waiting room while my wife gave birth to our first child.
When our second daughter was born I was in the delivery room. (The first
husband that hospital had allowed to do so and staff told my wife and I
not to tell anyone it had happened because "we aren't prepared to have
husbands in the delivery room.") I obviously have birth certificate for
both. But do I have personal evidence only for the second birth and have
to rely on the documentary evidence that my eldest daughter was born on
- 339. Re: [ROOTS-L] Family Trees on line - An invasion of Privacy? 
- Yes. Do what you can to get their names off, pronto. A lawsuit would not be
> Recently received an e-mail from a distant relative who found the family
> site and noticed his name and that of his wife. Dates were not shown as
> both are still living.
> Any invasion of privacy as a result of this website and he "will see me in
> Comments from members please.
- 340. Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry Discounts 
- ANSWER TO BELOW:
Can't really answer the question as to DISCOUNTS at this time since I am a
member and they never give prices to current members (grin). All I can give you
data on is my personal account on an email that I received from them in
mid-December (see the below).
Someone who is not a member could probably access the information as to the
current prices thru Ancestry.com.
NOTICE FROM ANCESTRY - "World Deluxe Membership"
As a reminder, on January 12, 2008, we will automatically
- 341. Re: [ROOTS-L] Online Tree Accuracy: was Family Tree - Invasion ofPrivacy 
- I disagree regarding ancestry.com's OneWorldTree. Yes, it is garbled and
many of the trees are completely worthless. (One of my ancestors is
supposed to have children at the age of 71 and another had children
before he was born etc.), but I have also found some very useful
information on it.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On
Behalf Of Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:23 AM
To: juanita; email@example.com
Subject: [ROOTS-L] Online Tree Accu
- 342. Re: [ROOTS-L] Social Security Death Index 
- On Jan 4, 2008 11:37 AM, Nora Nell wrote:
> Important Information:
> A person only shows up on the SSDI if they were receiving Social Security
> benefits at the time of their death. Therefore, unless a person was old
> enough to be retired, or was on disability, their name will not appear on
> the SS Death Index.
Sorry, but there is a lot of misinformation out there on the web.
The SSDI is a database originating from the Social Security
Administration (SSA). It contains the records of deceased perso
- 343. Re: [ROOTS-L] Daniel Boone's son, Israel 
- Daniel Boone had a brother whose name was Israel, and he named a son
Israel, so there were two Israel Boones.
On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:00 AM, Joyce G. Reece wrote:
> This is Israel the brother of Daniel not the son of. This Israel's
> Jesse removed into McMinn County Tennessee where he lived the
> remainder of
> his life. His descendents reside here still.
> Joyce Gaston Reece
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debi"
> To: "judy mckinney"
- 344. Re: [ROOTS-L] Family Trees on line - An invasion of Privacy? 
I'd take them off. While they really couldn't "sue you", it's really not
worth the hassle.
And, the "general rule" for on-line genealogy databases is "no living
people" (except yourself, if you like) and, most of us use the "1930 rule"
for those whose deaths may not be known. If they were born before 1930, they
are on the 1930 census, and therefore "out there."
BTW, all, please don't tell me there is no "general rule" -- it's like
common sense, perhaps not as common as we would like!
Pat (in Tucs
- 345. [ROOTS-L] Oklahoma Obit. Lewis Payton 
- I am looking for a copy of the death cert. for Lewis (Lou) Payton. Buried in Wagoner, OK. Headstone reads he died in l952 but OK City can't find him.
- 346. Re: [ROOTS-L] Family History 
And I've been using these sites for almost 10 years! Can you imagine how
confused new users must be?
All the more reason for folks to clearly understand where they're posting
their trees, where they will appear, and how they can or cannot be
controlled since there are so many options. I think by far, the safest and
most straightforward path is for new users to post at RootsWeb WorldConnect
as both you and I have said.
Thanks for the correction and clarification.
- 347. Re: [ROOTS-L] ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 55 
- You are lucky if you find a birth certificate on older people. The only
reason my mother has a birth certificate is she had to get a delayed one
for a passport 20 years ago as the court house burned down. A lot of
states don't have them for the early 1900's. In fact there isn't even a
death certificate for my grandma who died in Texas in 1953. Texas sent my
all the paper work to go to court to get one, but due to the fact that I
live quite far from there and I was living at that time, plus my mom and
- 348. [ROOTS-L] regarding copywrite, errors, etc 
- I think some people need to get a life, if this is what's bothering them. I have been doing family genealogy since 1979 and it was a whole lot harder then. There were no census indexes (except one year), just books and a few files, ordering microfilm and a lot of snail mail letters, and a lot of checks written. I have typed up quite a few wills and posted them on the internet so people that follow my footsteps don't have to spend all the time and money that it took me to find these things. So there are
- 349. Re: [ROOTS-L] Adobe Acrobat and Fulton history site 
- You should be able to save a copy of the page to your photo software and
then crop it, I just copy and paste text
For those who don't know it the site is (search page is)
Full of upstate NY papers a treasure trove for those with ancestors in the
On Jan 6, 2008 1:57 PM, Elizabeth Parmalee wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
> I just visited the Fulton History site and found lots of articles about my
> gr-gr-grandfather which I save
- 350. Re: [ROOTS-L] Documenting from Holocaust records 
Thank you yes I would like to see what
happened to a few of my relatives when the Bad
Arolsen records are available.
the problem is much of the family were killed in
Poland where they just dug there own graves
and were shot into them. Or the Synagogues were burnt down
with people in it and all Jewish records burnt
the Germans kept very accurate records in Austria and Germany
but in Poland they didn't keep good records of
what went on ou
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