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Rootsweb.com RSS Feed for BROWN-BEN-1807 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BROWN-BEN-1807 Rootsweb.com RSS feed for BROWN-BEN-1807 en-us Copyright 2005 by MyFamily.inc 2008-09-02T07:00:35-06:00 helpdesk@rootsweb.com helpdesk@rootsweb.com Rootsweb.com 2005-05-01T00:00:00-06:00 1 hourly [BROWN-BEN-1807] Daughter of Nancy Brown update http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-09/1220360435 I am hoping just maybe my sister or a relative uses this site. I am trying to meet or contact her for the first time. Info I have. I do not have a fist name: Last Name: Anthony, b. 14 Jun 1946, bp. Los Angeles County,CA father: Ralph James Anthony: Mother's Maiden Name: Nancy Brown. I am hoping! Jim Anthony <jimant60@yahoo.com> 2008-09-02T07:00:35-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Brown Part Three http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219932795 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part Three: We are now quite sure that John Brownâ€™s will has proven Benjamin Brown's parents and his male siblings. We believe that there may have been also at least two sisters, but that they were not mentioned in the will. There also may have been another son who did not live to adulthood. Those are issues for further research. The following are John Brown's sons: Known descendants of John Brown 1 John BROWN b: Abt. 1784 VA d: 14 Dec 1877 Crawford Co IN - +Catherine (Caty) HULL b: Bet. 1780-1790 PA m: 17 Mar 1807 Greene Co TN d: Abt. 1833 Harrison Co IN --- 2 Benjamin BROWN b: 1807 Greene County, Tennessee d: 14 Jan 1881 Fulton Co, IL ------ +Elizabeth SPEARS b: Abt. 1805 NC m: 26 Oct 1825 in White Co. Tennessee d: 29 May 1882 IL --- 2 Alfred BROWN b: Abt. 1810 Greene Co TN d: 1895 McDonough Co. IL ------ +Sarah V. SHIELDS b: 1817 Harrison Co. IN m: 26 Mar 1835 Harrison Co IN d: 03 Aug 1871 Blandinsville (McDonough) IL --- 2 John H. BROWN b: Abt. 1812 Tennessee ------ +Elizabeth VAN HOOZER b: Abt. 1824 Crawford Co IN m: 06 Oct 1844 Crawford Co IN --- 2 George A. BROWN b: Abt. 1814 TN d: Bet. 1850-1855 Sullivan Co IN ------ +Sophia WILLIAMS b: 28 Jul 1818 Bradford Co PA m: 11 May 1835 Crawford Co IN d: 23 Oct 1895 in Coles Co IL --- 2 Samuel BROWN b: Abt. 1825 Indiana ------ +Cynthia Aemelda JONES b: Abt. 1834 Kentucky m: 03 May 1850 Sullivan Co IN *2nd Wife of John BROWN: - +Elizabeth SNOWDEN m: 26 Dec 1833 in Harrison Co IN OR Elizabeth STEWART m: 18 Sep 1834 in Harrison Co IN We havenâ€™t been able to prove which of these women was John Brownâ€™s second wife. Thereâ€™s no indication that Johnâ€™s second wife bore him any children. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T08:13:15-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Brown Part Three http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219941909 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part Three: We are now quite sure that John Brownâ€™s will has proven Benjamin Brown's parents and his male siblings. We believe that there may have been also at least two sisters, but that they were not mentioned in the will. There also may have been another son who did not live to adulthood. Those are issues for further research. The following are John Brown's known sons: Descendants of John Brown 1 John BROWN b: Abt. 1784 VA d: 14 Dec 1877 Crawford Co IN - +Catherine (Caty) HULL b: Bet. 1780-1790 PA m: 17 Mar 1807 Greene Co TN d: Abt. 1833 Harrison Co IN --- 2 Benjamin BROWN b: 1807 Greene County, Tennessee d: 14 Jan 1881 Fulton Co, IL ------ +Elizabeth SPEARS b: Abt. 1805 NC m: 26 Oct 1825 in White Co. Tennessee d: 29 May 1882 IL --- 2 Alfred BROWN b: Abt. 1810 Greene Co TN d: 1895 McDonough Co. IL ------ +Sarah V. SHIELDS b: 1817 Harrison Co. IN m: 26 Mar 1835 Harrison Co IN d: 03 Aug 1871 Blandinsville (McDonough) IL --- 2 John H. BROWN b: Abt. 1812 Tennessee ------ +Elizabeth VAN HOOZER b: Abt. 1824 Crawford Co IN m: 06 Oct 1844 Crawford Co IN --- 2 George A. BROWN b: Abt. 1814 TN d: Bet. 1850-1855 Sullivan Co IN ------ +Sophia WILLIAMS b: 28 Jul 1818 Bradford Co PA m: 11 May 1835 Crawford Co IN d: 23 Oct 1895 in Coles Co IL --- 2 Samuel BROWN b: Abt. 1825 Indiana ------ +Cynthia Aemelda JONES b: Abt. 1834 Kentucky m: 03 May 1850 Sullivan Co IN *2nd Wife of John BROWN: - +Elizabeth SNOWDEN m: 26 Dec 1833 in Harrison Co IN OR Elizabeth STEWART m: 18 Sep 1834 in Harrison Co IN We havenâ€™t been able to prove which of these women was John Brownâ€™s second wife. Thereâ€™s no indication that Johnâ€™s second wife bore him any children. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T10:45:09-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Brown Part Five http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219933538 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part Five: We have not yet found a will to connect our Old John Brown (b. abt 1784 VA) to his parents, but circumstantial evidence is compelling for a family of siblings, born to George Brown Sr. -- all born in Virginia, most married in Greene County Tennessee, and all of whom migrated to Harrison County Indiana before spreading out to farther states. For the past ten years or more, we have been assembling all of the following information, but didn't feel that we were secure in posting the data. Dennis Peterson, who seems to be the pre-eminent authority on the Trobaugh family, was helpful in knitting together information that we had assembled about these people -- and confirming our conclusions by his independent studies over similar years. We have no idea whom George Brown Sr. may have been married to, nor where he was born, since were are still searching for old Lutheran and Brethren churches in Virginia and Tennessee. We suspect that he is the George Brown listed in the Frieden's Church records in Rockingham County Virginia, but his children's births predate those records, and we haven't yet found those earlier documents. We still need good baptismal records for them in Virginia. Descendants of George Sr. Brown: 1 George Sr. BROWN - +Margaret or Barbara (UNKNOWN) 2 George Jr. BROWN b: 25 May 1782 Shenadoah VA d: 01 Feb 1854 Harrison County IN ----+Margareta (Peggy) TROBAUGH b: 09 Oct 1784 Rockingham Co VA d: 15 Aug 1858 Harrison County IN --- 3 Elizabeth BROWN b: 26 May 1808 Greene Co TN d: Bet. 1849 - 1850 Harrison Co IN ------ +David STEPHENSON b: Abt. 1796 MD d: Aft. 1850 --- 3 Hannah Margaret BROWN b: 27 Oct 1809 Greene Co TN d: 20 Mar 1889 Crab Orchard (Johnson) NE ------ +Christopher Wilbur SLY b: Abt. 1810 NY d: 1896 Crab Orchard (Johnson) NE ****Note [W. H. H. Sly, the son of Christopher and Hannah Brown Sly, married Sophia Brown, Daughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth Spears Brown] --- 3 George H. BROWN b: 18 Nov 1811 d: 13 Apr 1885 ------ +Elizabeth VAUGHN b: Abt. 1814 KY --- 3 Sarah BROWN b: 05 Dec 1813 Harrison Co IN d: 12 Dec 1879 Harrison Co IN ------ +Nicholas QUALLS b: 07 Oct 1814 d: 20 Aug 1864 --- 3 Malinda BROWN b: 13 May 1829 d: 03 Jul 1862 --- 3 Samuel BROWN b: 25 Dec 1815 Harrison Co IN d: Abt. 1880 ------ +Luda TERRY b: Abt. 1816 VA --- 3 Rebecca BROWN b: 25 Apr 1817 ------ +George C. LANGDON b: Abt. 1819 KY --- 3 Anna BROWN b: 12 Feb 1821 ------ +Frederick BOYERS --- 3 Catherine BROWN b: 28 Aug 1823 ------ +Thomas HEDGES --- 3 Mary BROWN b: 08 Dec 1825 --- 3 Malinda BROWN b: 12 Mar 1829 2 John BROWN b: Abt. 1784 VA d: 14 Dec 1877 Crawford Co IN ----+Catherine (Caty) HULL b: Bet. 1780 - 1790 PA d: Abt. 1833 Harrison Co IN --- 3 Benjamin BROWN b: 1807 Greene County, Tennessee d: 14 Jan 1881 Fulton Co, IL ------ +Elizabeth SPEARS b: Abt. 1805 NC d: 29 May 1882 IL --- 3 Alfred BROWN b: Abt. 1810 Greene Co TN d: 1895 McDonough Co. IL ------ +Sarah V. SHIELDS b: 1817 Harrison Co. IN d: 03 Aug 1871 Blandinsville (McDonough) IL --- 3 John H. BROWN b: Abt. 1812 Tennessee d: Crawford Co IN ------ +Elizabeth VAN HOOZER b: Abt. 1824 Crawford Co IN --- 3 George A. BROWN b: Abt. 1814 TN d: Bet. 1850 - 1855 Sullivan Co IN ------ +Sophia WILLIAMS b: 28 Jul 1818 Bradford Co PA d: 23 Oct 1895 Coles Co IL --- 3 Samuel BROWN b: Abt. 1825 Indiana ------ +Cynthia Aemelda JONES b: Abt. 1834 Kentucky *2nd Wife of John BROWN: ---- +Elizabeth SNOWDEN 2 Sarah (Sally) BROWN b: Abt. 1785 VA d: Preston twp. Richland, Illinois ----+Henry Jackson TROBAUGH b: 24 May 1782 Staunton (Augusta) VA d: 10 Oct 1857 Richland Co IL --- 3 James TROBAUGH b: 07 Sep 1806 TN ------ +Sarah WESTFALL b: 1806 Hardin Co KY d: Mar 1860 Richland Co IL --- 3 John TROBAUGH b: 16 Nov 1807 TN d: 27 Mar 1890 ------ +Christena BIRD b: 10 Apr 1808 TN d: 12 Jan 1878 Harrison Co IN --- 3 George A. TROBAUGH b: Abt. 1810 Greene Co TN d: Bet. 1871 - 1879 Montgomery Co IL ------ +Sibby SPEARS b: Abt.1818 ****Note [Sibby Spears was the sister of Elizabeth Spears Brown, wife of Benjamin Brown] --- *2nd Wife of George A. TROBAUGH: ****Note [Spears family anecdote indicates that George and Sibby Spears Trobaugh were divorced, but no such document seems to exist in White Co TN. George subsequently married his pregnant niece.] ------ +Martha QUALLS --- 3 Elizabeth TROBAUGH b: Abt. 1812 ------ +George MATTINGLY --- 3 Mary Ann TROBAUGH b: Abt. 1814 Harrison Co IN d: 14 Jan 1879 Richland Co IL ------ +Alfred QUALLS --- 3 Henry Jackson TROBAUGH b: 08 Jan 1816 Harrison Co Indiana d: 14 Feb 1887 Richland Co Illinois ------ +Mary Ann MCCULLOUGH b: 30 Dec 1815 Ky d: 14 Jan 1879 Richland Co Illinois --- 3 Daniel TROBAUGH b: 08 Jul 1822 Indiana d: 19 Apr 1912 Richland Co Illinois --- 3 Margaret TROBAUGH b: Abt. 1825 Harrison Co IN 2 Frederick BROWN b: Abt. 1787 Virginia d: Gibson Co IN ----+Elizabeth COCKRUM b: Abt. 1800 KY --- 3 Moriah BROWN b: Abt. 1842 Gibson Co IN d: Aft. 1860 Gibson Co IN *2nd Wife of [3] Frederick BROWN: ---- +Sarah Sally COLE d: Bet. 1833 - 1839 Harrison Co IN --- 3 David BROWN b: 1809 Greene Co TN d: Abt. 1860 Gibson Co IN ------ +Elizabeth KINDLE b: Abt. 1814 TN --- 3 John BROWN b: 06 Dec 1812 Harrison Co IN d: 17 Mar 1871 Harrison Co IN ------ +Mary CLINGAN b: 16 Apr 1815 d: 18 Jan 1844 Harrison Co IN 2 Henry BROWN b: Abt. 1789 d: 23 Mar 1847 Harrison Co IN ----+Elizabeth COLE b: Abt. 1789 VA d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 Harrison Co IN --- 3 Jacob S. BROWN b: 14 Sep 1819 Harrison Co IN d: 25 Aug 1894 Augusta KS ------ +Catharine WESTFALL b: 08 Mar 1820 Harrison Co IN d: 16 Dec 1888 Augusta KS --- 3 John BROWN b: Abt. 1818 Harrison Co IN ------ +Hannah COOK b: Abt. 1824 KY --- 3 Anna BROWN b: Abt. 1813 Harrison Co IN --- 3 Sarah BROWN b: Bef. 1825 Harrison Co IN d: 14 Apr 1847 Harrison Co IN ------ +William BALLOW b: Abt. 1822 KY 2 Daniel BROWN b: 10 Oct 1793 Virginia d: 27 Jan 1850 Crawford Co IN ----+Catherine BREEDEN b: 12 Jun 1801 Greene Co TN d: 24 Sep 1894 Densmore (Norton) Co KS --- 3 Joseph BROWN b: 12 Mar 1819 Harrison Co., Indiana d: 04 Feb 1883 Camden (Ray) MO ------ +Mary HUGHES b: Abt. 1823 Crawford Co., Indiana d: [liv. 1880 Knoxville Twp (Ray) MO --- 3 Briant BROWN b: 25 Oct 1822 Crawford Co., Indiana d: 23 Dec 1910 Clark Co Washington ------ +Emma E. b: Nov 1844 In. --- *2nd Wife of Briant BROWN: ------ +Deliah C. CARNES b: Abt. 1826 Indiana d: 18 Dec 1904 Garfield Co CO --- *3rd Wife of Briant BROWN: ------ +Delila Caroline CARNES b: 11 Dec 1827 Crawford Co IN d: 18 Dec 1904 Rifle (Garfield) CO --- *4th Wife of Briant BROWN: ------ +Emma E. FRONABARGER b: Nov 1844 --- 3 George A. BROWN b: 12 Jan 1827 Crawford Co IN d: 22 Dec 1849 prob. Crawford Co IN --- 3 Frederick BROWN b: 18 Feb 1829 Crawford Co IN d: 13 Feb 1838 prob Crawford Co IN --- 3 Alford A. BROWN b: 10 Nov 1831 Crawford Co IN d: Abt. 1880 Ray Co MO ------ +Amanda (UNKNOWN) --- 3 William Davis BROWN b: 27 Sep 1833 Crawford Co IN d: 17 Feb 1916 Densmore (Norton) KS ------ +Sara Jane LASHMET b: 28 Apr 1840 IL d: 06 May 1913 Norton Co KS --- 3 John Lopp BROWN b: 23 Oct 1835 Crawford Co IN d: 05 Jan 1931 Portland (Multnomah) OR ------ +Polly DORNE b: Abt. 1839 Davis Co., Iawa --- *2nd Wife of John Lopp BROWN: ------ +Julia Ann POWERS b: Abt. 1839 of Scotland Co., MO, USA d: [liv. 1880 Calvin Twp (Jewell) KS --- 3 James A. BROWN b: 07 Nov 1837 Crawford Co IN d: 16 Sep 1839 Crawford Co IN --- 3 Daniel J. BROWN b: 16 Jun 1840 Crawford Co IN d: 12 Feb 1932 Crawford Co IN ------ +Maranda MARTIN b: Abt. 1844 Crawford Co IN d: Aft. 1920 Crawford Co IN --- 3 David A. BROWN b: 16 Jun 1840 Crawford Co IN d: 16 Jun 1840 Crawford Co IN --- 3 Martha Catherine BROWN b: 02 Jan 1842 Riddle (Crawford) IN d: Oct 1929 Densmore (Norton) KS ------ +Andrew Butcher DANIELS b: 29 Jan 1848 Pike Co OH d: 01 Nov 1922 Densmore (Norton) KS The heritage of Catherine Hull Brown (Benjamin Brown's mother) has long been in question. The book "Hulls in the American Revolution, 1775-1783: A source book : veterans, patriots, and loyalists including some with the Holl, Hohl, Hole and Huls/Hulls surnames : with information on wives, selected children, and Hull women married to Revolutionary War men", by Phyllis Hughes, the meticulous genealogist for the Hull Family Association, was not willing to assign Caty Hull to the family of John Hull and Anne Marie Lingenfelter, simply because no documentary link existed. Nor was the DAR willing to accept Caty: "Holl/Hull, John Sr. â€“ b. ca. 1759-51; d. by 1836; m. Ann Mary Lingafelter/Lingenfelter. Pvt., PA Line. 1776, Capt Nicholas Beddingerâ€™s Co., Col. McAlisterâ€™s Militia Regt., 6 mos. 1777, served under Capt. John Wampler, Col. Gibson, and Lt. Jonas Wolf. British prisoner guard. In Battle of Ft. Lee. Dec 1781-Feb 1782, on Capt. John Wamplerâ€™s payroll. In 3rd Class, Berwick Twp. Requisitions of Recruits List. Fined: Â£3.10.0.m Pens., 1832. On VA Militia pension list, 1833. S2636. Res.: Berwick Twp., York (now Adams) Co., PA; Rockingham Co., VA; Greene Co, TN. Prob G/D/S line; prob. s/o 1738 immig., Abraham Holl and Catharina [poss. Maria Dorothea] Stentz. AIC: Charlotte, Maryt, Nancy, Margaret â€œPeggyâ€, Abraham, John Jr., Jacob, Susanna, Abigal/Abigail Elizabeth, poss. Caty. See Also Abraham, Nicholas Holl/Hull, Philip Holl/Hull, PA. [1A, 1G, 3E, 3I, 3R, 4C, 4D, 6Z, 12F, 14N, 5A, 15I, 22Z, 23A, 27R,30G, 31Z, 33H, 35I, 35J, 37A, 37B, 37C, 38J, 38K, 38S, 41A]" We have finally provided documentary evidence that Catherine Hull Brown was the daughter of John Hull and Anne Marie Lingenfelter, all of which will be soon published in the Hull Family Journal. As a courtesy to them, we shall wait until after their publication before we post the information here. Now that we know for sure that the Holl/Hull family is securely in your line of ancestry, you might be interested in _www.hullfamilyassociation.org_ (http://www.hullfamilyassociation.org/) . This connection also places the Trobaugh and Lingenfelter lines into your direct bloodline, because Anne Marie Lingenfelter's parents were Jacob Lingenfelter and Maria Elizabeth ("Marillis") Trobaugh. For all of these years, we have thought that the Trobaugh and Lingenfelter families were collaterals, but they are now proven to be in the direct bloodline of Benjamin Brown. Regards, Jim Patrick **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T08:25:38-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Brown Part Two http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219932677 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part Two: John Brown's Will has been previously published on this mailing list, but we'll show it again, for those who might not have been on the list at that time: Last Will and Testament of John Brown, Crawford County Indiana. Transcribed by James W. Patrick Page 148 of Crawford County, Indiana Will book Two John Brownâ€™s Last Will and Testament I, John Brown, of Crawford County, State of Indiana, being in good bodily health and of sound mind & memory and capable of disposing of my property, calling to mind the frailty and uncertainty of human life, and being desirous of settling my worldly affairs and directing how my Estate that I possess shall be disposed of after my death while I have Strength and Capacity so, do make and publish this, my last will and Testament, hereby Envoking my disposal of my property that I have heretofore made, and first I commend my immortal being to Him who gave it and my body to the Earth, to be buried with little expense or ostentation by my Executor hereafter named. And my worldly estate and all the property, Real and personal of which I shall die possessor of at the time of my decease, my will is that my just debts, be if any, and my funeral expenses hereafter named by him as shall be found shall be paid by Executor, hereafter named by him, as shall be found convenient by him. I then give devise and bequeath to my wife Elizabeth Brown, all my household furniture, my dwelling to have and to hold the same during her natural life, also give to her the use and income or rental of my home and appurtenances, to have and to hold the same during her natural life. Said land tenements situate in the County of Crawford State of Indiana. 2nd I give to my son Benjamin Brown the sum of one dollar to be paid in one year after my death by my Executor hereafter to be named. 3rd I give devise and bequeath to my son John H. Brown the Reverson [reversion?] or the Remainder of my dwelling house lands, situate in the County of Crawford State of Indiana described as follows: the south west qt of the S.W. qt of Sec No. 17. Also the south East of the South East qt of Sec. No. 18 all in Tp [?] 3 South of Range one east and all of my personal property at the death of my wife Elizabeth Brown to have and to hold the same, him his heirs and assigns forever, from and after the death of my wife Elizabeth Brown, to him, John H. Brown to his and their use â€¦ [behoof ??] forever. 4th I give to my son, Alfred Brown, the sum of one dollar, to be paid by my executor, hereafter named, in one year after my death. 5th I give to the heirs of Geo A. Brown, the sum of one dollar to be paid to them or their order within one year after my death, by my Executor hereinafter named. 6th I give to my son Samuel Brown, the sum of one dollar to be paid him in one year after my death, by my Executor herein after named. 7th I hereby appoint George W. Riddle, of Crawford County and State of Indiana, my Executor of this my last will and Testament. And lastly my express will and meaning is and I do hereby order and appoint that if any difference, dispute, question, or controversy shall be moored, arise, or happen concerning any gift, matter, or thing in this my will, given and bequeathed, expressed, or court arise that then no suit or suits in law or equity or otherwise shall be brought, commenced, or prosecuted for and concerning the same Page 149 of Will Book Two determination of my friends Hamilton Martin & John S. Wright, both of Crawford County and State of Indiana, and what they shall order, direct, or determine therein shall be binding and conclusive to all and every person therein concerned. In testimony whereof, I, the said John Brown, have to this my last will and testament, contained on one where thereof subscribed my name and affixed my seal this 2 day of September, in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and seventy three ~~~ John (his X mark) Brown (L.S.) The above instrument consisting of one sheet was now here subscribed by John Brown, the testator in the presence of each of us, and was, at the same time, declared by him to be his last will and Testament, and we, at his request, sign our names hereto as attesting witnesses Hamilton Martin John S. Wright The State of Indiana } Crawford County } SS Be it Remembered that on the 21st day of November, 1884, Hamilton Martin, one of the subscribing witnesses to the within and foregoing last will and Testament of John Brown, late of said county deceased, personally appeared before the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Crawford County in the State of Indiana, and being duly sworn by the Clerk of said Court upon his oath declared and testified as follows, that is to say that on the 2nd day of September A.D 1873, he saw the said John Brown sign his name to said instrument in writing, as and for his last will and Testament, and that this deponent, at the same time heard the said John Brown declare the said instrument in writing to be his last will and Testament, and that the said instrument in writing was at the same time at the request of the said John Brown, and, with his consent, attested and subscribed the said Hamilton Martin & John S. Wright in the presence of said testator and in the presence of each other, as subscribing witnesses thereto, and that the said John Brown, was at the time of signing and subscribing of said instrument in writing, as aforesaid, of full age, that is more than twenty on years of age, and of sound and disposing mind and memory and not under any coercion or restraint as the said deponent verily believes, and further and sayeth not. Hamilton Martin Sworn to and subscribed to by the said Hamilton Martin before me, W. S. Ross, Clerk of said Court, at Leavenworth this 21 day of November 1884, in attestation whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court. W. S. Ross, Clerk, Circuit Court State of Indiana Crawford County} SS Page 150 of Will Book Two I, W. S. Ross, Clerk of the Crawford Circuit Court, do hereby certify that the within annexed Will and Testament of John Brown has been duly admitted to probate and duly proved by the testimony of Hamilton Martin, one of the subscribing witnesses thereto, that a complete record of said will and of the testimony of the said John Brown in proof thereof has been by me duly made and recorded in Book 2, at Page 148 of the Records and Wills of said County. In attestation whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal; of said Court at Leavenworth this 21st day of November A.D. 1884 W. S. Ross, Clerk (L.S.) Of the Crawford Circuit Court -------------------------------------------------- Since we felt we had finally pinned down Ben's parents, we wanted a more personal connection with this generation of Browns: On Thursday, May 29, 2008, Phyllis, Tom and Mark Groutage and I drove from Carterville Illinois to English Indiana, in Crawford County, to look at some of the historical documents at the old courthouse on the hill in English. The town of English was moved several years ago, from its original location in a valley, to a nearby hill, after a series of floods which devastated the town. Itâ€™s a little bit spooky to come down out of the hills into this location and see the streets and sidewalks all in place, but no buildings. The old courthouse is a concrete block building, apparently in good condition, but empty except for the historical documents. The present caretakers of the documents told us that, when the new courthouse was to be constructed, they were assured that special rooms would be provided for the historical documents, but, when the courthouse was dedicated and opened, no such provision had been made. What a surprise! Now, everything is still in the old courthouse, safe on a hill on the opposite side of the valley from â€œNew Englishâ€. Although we spent most of our time at the Historical Society facility in the old courthouse, we also visited the new library, up in New English, where we were able to view the newspaper microfilms. Since we had called ahead earlier in the week, Larry Burmeister, Vice-President of the Crawford County Historical and Genealogical Society, was awaiting our arrival with the County Historian, Richard Eastridge. We explained that we have a copy of the will of John Brown, which weâ€™ve transcribed, but we wanted to find the record of distribution of the bequests, which would most likely note the residence of the beneficiaries. The will was submitted on November 21, 1884, and was approved on December 23, 1884, so we, and all other researchers have reckoned that Old John Brown had died in 1884, although the original will had been written on September 2, 1873. As usually happens with genealogy research, we found that our notions were a bit incorrect. Despite our best efforts, we couldnâ€™t find any distribution records, although we think they are still buried somewhere in those old books. In the will, the major beneficiaries were John H. Brown and Old John Brownâ€™s widow, Elizabeth. After burial and payment of debts ... â€œI then give devise and bequeath to my wife Elizabeth Brown, all my household furniture, my dwelling to have and to hold the same during her natural life, also give to her the use and income or rental of my home and appurtenances, to have and to hold the same during her natural life. Said land tenements situate in the County of Crawford State of Indiana.â€ A dollar to son, Benjamin Brown, then ..... â€œI give devise and bequeath to my son John H. Brown the Reverson [reversion?] or the Remainder of my dwelling house lands, situate in the County of Crawford State of Indiana described as follows: the south west qt of the S.W. qt of Sec No. 17. Also the south East of the South East qt of Sec. No. 18 all in Tp [?] 3 South of Range one east and all of my personal property at the death of my wife Elizabeth Brown to have and to hold the same, him his heirs and assigns forever, from and after the death of my wife Elizabeth Brown, to him, John H. Brown to his and their use â€¦[behoof ??] forever.â€ A dollar to son, Alfred Brown A dollar to the heirs of his son, George A. Brown A dollar to son, Samuel Brown George W. Riddle is appointed as Executor of the will. We already knew all of the above information, but Richard Eastridge began to dig elsewhere. He found a page that showed the fees paid to file the will in 1884, all paid for by Squire Brown (b. abt 1846 IN), Old Johnâ€™s grandson, son of John H. Brown (b. abt 1812 TN). Then, he found a notation in the transcribed Crawford County Tract book 3, Land Records, that the land described in the will was transferred from John H. Brown to Squire V. Brown on January 10, 1885. Although we donâ€™t know his date of death, John H. Brown is buried in Mt. Sterling Cemetery, south of English Indiana. Our conclusion is that John H. Brown was in ill health and unable to travel to the county seat for filing of the will and payment of fees. Richard Eastridge subsequently found an entry wherein Squire V. Brown had committed an Elizabeth Brown to the Poor Farm in 1885. We have no further information. We canâ€™t find Elizabeth in the census of 1880. She would have been about 85 years old at that time. We canâ€™t be sure that the person committed to the Poor Farm was the second wife of Old John Brown, but it seems a considerable coincidence if it refers to other people. Our assumption would have been that she had died before 1885, when the property was transferred to Squire, but would the property have been tied to the household goods? It was my opinion that the house, lands, and personal properties were all tied to Elizabeth Brown until her death. If Squire or his father (John H. Brown) had Elizabeth declared incompetent, they might have been able to transfer the property prior to her death. On the other hand, Richard Eastridge, the County Historian, believes that only the household goods were tied to Elizabeth. In Squireâ€™ s defense, if Elizabeth was aged and perhaps senile, Squire might have thought it best to place his step-grandmother into the only institution available to them. Who knows? Itâ€™s a subject for further research. Further questions evolve. An article in the Crawford County Democrat of Thursday, December 20, 1877 (published at Leavenworth, Indiana), says: â€œDied at 100 Years Old. Old Uncle John Brown, one of the oldest citizens of this county, died Friday last, of old age. His birth day would have been next May, and which time he would have been one hundred years old. His remains were interred at the Riddle schoolhouse cemetery, being followed by a large courtege [sic] of citizens.â€ All previous census entries record an age for Old John Brown that would place his birth at 1783-1784, instead of the May of 1778 date indicated in the newspaper. Thereâ€™s little question that all these items: the will of 1873 (filed 1884), the census records of 1850, 1860 and 1870, the 1877 newspaper article, the land transfer from John H. Brown (son of Old John Brown) to Squire Brown (son of John H. Brown) all apply to the same John Brown. One could only guess why Old John Brown might have shaved six years off his actual age all those years, if thatâ€™s the case. Did it happen at the time of his second marriage, to Elizabeth Snowden on 26 Dec 1833 in Harrison County Indiana? Or was his impending 100th birthday a fabrication by an editor, something not unknown in newspapers of the time? For the moment, we have chosen to believe that the newspaper was wrong about his age, either because the 100-year-old story was more interesting, or because the editors received flawed information. From the article, we place the date of Johnâ€™s death at 14 Dec 1877. For our purposes, we continue to estimate Johnâ€™s date of birth to be May of 1784. We had decided before our trip to Indiana that we would visit the property owned by old John Brown, on Riddle Church Road, near Riddle Indiana, in Crawford County. However, the obituary gave us the graveyard location and provided us with another point of reference. We drove some twelve miles southeast, from English to RiddleChurch Road, where we had expected at least a little store or something to indicate that a town had existed there. We knew we had arrived because we were following a map, and when we turned to the right, we saw the old schoolhouse and the graveyard. Other than those landmarks, the only other feature was one house. Riddle is no longer on most highway maps. We realized that the locus of the former town of Riddle is about a quarter mile to the north of Riddle Church Road, on Carnes Mill Road. Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=riddle+indiana&um=1&sa=X&oi=geoco de_result&resnum=1&ct=image The schoolhouse is now a Methodist Church, said to have been founded in 1836, which might have been shortly before Old John Brown arrived on the scene. It â€™s not clear if the church had originally been Methodist. If Old John Brown had anything to do with the founding, it probably would have been some sort of Reformed German Church of the Brethren, since two of his brothers were pastors in that church tradition. The present building is resting on a foundation of rough-hewn limestone blocks, and we suspected that they might have supported the original school when Old John Brown arrived on the scene. Of course, the schoolhouse might have also served as church in the earliest days in Riddle. The building is laid out very much like old schoolhouses, but the two such organizations often used to use the same buildings. We like to say that we saw John Brownâ€™s grave, because we looked at every grave on the property and examined every gravestone that might have been in place in 1877, although we found no gravestone with his name. There were at least a dozen stones that had weathered enough to be unreadable, any one of which might have been Johnâ€™s. We chose one particular stone, near the site of the original building, near another Brown headstone and decided, arbitrarily, that it would be John Brownâ€™s. Thatâ€™s our story, and weâ€™re sticking to it until proven otherwise. We left the graveyard and headed west about a quarter-mile to the property which had been John Brownâ€™s. The unpaved road going westward out of Riddle makes a sharp turn to the left, and Old John Brownâ€™s property is on the right, just at the corner. One of us got out of the truck and asked the people in the yard if we might take some photos of the house and property, because one of the ancestors of the lady sitting in the car had lived there 150 years ago. One of the men standing around on the property indicated that he saw no problem in our photographs, so I took a couple of snapshots. The man explained that they were renting the property, and that the present owner had recently purchased the property. He said that locals place the construction of the house at more than 100 years ago, but it would be difficult to date it on outward appearance. However, the back part of the house was resting on some stones that appeared to be exactly the same size and general appearance as those under the schoolhouse/church. Shortly, a younger man came outside and said that his mother was upset at our photographing the place, since the owner was a bit difficult about such things. Of course, we had a legal right to photograph anything we wanted to, but we had no interest in riling up the local citizenry, who didn't seem to be very happy with us. We snapped a couple of photos yet from the car and fled the wrong direction, around the corner, on a dead-end road. We turned around and headed home, having not really found exactly the kind of information we were looking for, but having found different, more interesting stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------- Another article noted in the great index of old newspapers at the Historical Society in Crawford County Indiana, was for the death of John W. Brown (son of George A. Brown), a grandson of Old John Brown. Although the cemetery listings note a John W. Brown buried in Crawford County, it is not this particular John W. Brown, who is buried in Trilla (Coles Co) Illinois. We think that George A. Brown died 1850-1855 in Sullivan County Indiana, and his wife, Sophia Williams, remarried three times, as noted below, migrating with her kids to Coles Co IL. Looking at the local newspapers on microfilm was interesting. We found that these small-town newspapers published mostly articles lifted from magazines or other newspapers, even as late as 1913 -- >From "The English News", March 14, 1913 (published at English Indiana): Trilla Loses One of its Old Residents John W. Brown, Civil War Veteran Passed Away -- Funeral Services on Sunday Morning. Trilla, Ill, March 1. -- John W. Brown, aged seventy-two years and nine months one of the founders of the town of Trilla died at the family resident here Friday night at 10:40 o'clock. Death is attributed to pneumonia. Funeral services will be conducted on Sunday morning at the Presbyterian church at ten o'clock. Burial will be made in the Beals cemetery. Rev. Harris who has been conducting revival service at the church for two weeks, will officiate. [Itâ€™s interesting to note that Sophia Williamsâ€™ mother was Azuba Beals, so the contact with the Beals family was maintained after migration.] John W. Brown was born in Crawford County, Ind., on May 17, 1840, and came to Trilla shortly after the civil war. He served in the war for four years and a half as a member of the thirty-first Indiana Volunteers, having enlisted as a -private and was promoted from time to time until he attained the rank of lieutenan[t]. John W. Brown was postmaster of Trilla for four years. For twenty years he was engaged in mercantile business under the firm name of Brown & McPherson. He was an active church worker having been an elder for fifteen years in the Presbyterian Church. he was also interested in lodge work, and held membership with Post 503 of the Grand Army of the Republic, Lodge, No. 393 of the Ancient Free and Accepted Mason, chapter 254 of the Eastern Star, and the Charleston branch of the Masonic Protective association. Mr. Brown was married on September 25, 1887 to Miss Mary Hays. Surviving him are two brothers, L. W. Brown of Trilla and Levi Brown of English; one son, O. C. Brown, of Trilla; one daughter, Mrs. Laura Jones of Trilla, nine grandchildren and five great grandchildren. mr. W. A. O'Day, who resides at 1016 South Fifteenth Street, Mattoon, is a granddaughter. Best regards to all, Jim **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T08:11:17-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Bronw Part Four http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219933070 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part Four: We all pretty much know the descendants of Benjamin Brown, and some are posted elsewhere on the Internet, <http://www.angelfire.com/tn3/brown_benj/> so we won't list them here. The following are the families of Benjamin Brownâ€™s siblings. As always, we are eager to receive corrections and additions. Family of Benjamin Brownâ€™s brother, Alfred Brown: 1 Alfred BROWN b: Abt. 1810 Greene Co TN d: 1895 in McDonough Co. IL - +Sarah V. SHIELDS b: 1817 Harrison Co. IN m: 26 Mar 1835 Harrison Co IN d: 03 Aug 1871 Blandinsville (McDonough) IL --- 2 Marinda BROWN b: 01 May 1849 Fulton Co IL d: 1897 McDonough Co. IL ------ +John Bradshaw ISOM b: 25 Dec 1838 Blandinsville Twp McDonough Co IL m: 20 Jun 1866 McDonough Co IL d: 27 Feb 1897 Blandinsville Twp McDonough Co IL -------- 3 Laura E. ISOM b: Abt. 1869 d: 07 Jan 1881 Blandinsville Twp McDonough Co IL -------- 3 Frances V. ISOM b: Oct 1871 IL ------------ +William O. WATTS b: Dec 1864 IL m: 21 Mar 1888 McDonough Co IL -------------- 4 James L. WATTS b: Jan 1889 -------------- 4 Anna L. WATTS b: Sep 1890 -------------- 4 Gladys WATTS b: Nov 1892 -------------- 4 John L. WATTS b: May 1894 -------------- 4 Lola Dole WATTS b: Nov 1896 -------- 3 Alfred Chester ISOM b: Oct 1875 d: Bet. 1900 - 1910 ------------ +Nellie May PARKER b: 01 Oct 1876 McDonough Co IL m: 11 Oct 1894 d: 03 Oct 1957 McDonough Co IL -------------- 4 Bernice ISOM b: 12 May 1895 d: 11 Nov 1953 Blandinsville, Illinois -------------- 4 Hazel J ISOM b: Aug 1897 ----------------- +Lewis Ward MORRIS -------- 3 Ethelyn B. ISOM b: Abt. 1869 ------------ +Joseph Henry OSBORN b: Dec 1874 m: 11 Sep 1899 McDonough Co IL -------------- 4 Beatrice OSBORN b: Abt. 1901 -------------- 4 Vivian Jeanette OSBORN b: Abt. 1903 ----------------- +Frank BAUGHMAN b: Abt. 1899 ------------------- 5 [1] Living BAUGHMAN ----------------------- +Living MOONEY ------------------- *2nd Husband of [1] Living BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living MALLEY ------------------- *3rd Husband of [1] Living BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living CUTLIFF ------------------- 5 Mary Ethelyn BAUGHMAN b: 1919 ----------------------- +Charles Harry LIPSKY b: 1920 ------------------- 5 Meredith Allen BAUGHMAN b: 1920 ----------------------- +Betty Opal HAST b: 1921 ------------------- 5 William Henry BAUGHMAN b: 1922 ----------------------- +Anna Lolita CARNAHAN b: 1923 ------------------- 5 Vesper Elaine BAUGHMAN b: 25 Jul 1922 IL d: Nov 1979 Galesburg, Knox County, Illinois ----------------------- +Charles S. HULTMAN ------------------- 5 [2] Herman Dean BAUGHMAN b: 1927 ----------------------- +Shirley TWEEDEL ------------------- *2nd Wife of [2] Herman Dean BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living WILSON ------------------- *3rd Wife of [2] Herman Dean BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living SANCHEZ ------------------- *4th Wife of [2] Herman Dean BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living FRAMBES ------------------- *5th Wife of [2] Herman Dean BAUGHMAN: ----------------------- +Living DELAO Family of Benjamin Brown's brother, John H. Brown: 1 John H. BROWN b: Abt. 1812 Tennessee - +Elizabeth VAN HOOZER b: Abt. 1824 Crawford Co IN m: 06 Oct 1844 in Crawford Co IN --- 2 Mary Ann BROWN b: Abt. 1832 --- 2 George Hamilton BROWN b: Abt. 1838 ------ +Catherine E. BREEDEN m: 26 Aug 1863 in Harrison Co IN -------- 3 Mary L. B. BROWN b: Abt. 1864 -------- 3 Julia A. BROWN b: Abt. 1867 -------- 3 Francis A. BROWN b: Abt. 1884 --- 2 Squire V. BROWN b: Abt. 1846 d: Aft. 1910 ------ +Mariah E. WILBUR b: Abt. 1858 m: 16 May 1875 in Crawford Co IN d: Aft. 1910 -------- 3 Salesta BROWN b: Abt. 1876 -------- 3 John H. BROWN b: Abt. 1877 -------- 3 Jason B. BROWN b: Abt. 1892 -------- 3 Electa BROWN b: Abt. 1893 -------- 3 Ancel BROWN b: Abt. 1897 --- 2 Martha Catharine BROWN b: Abt. 1848 --- 2 William H. BROWN b: 04 Jul 1851 d: 31 Jan 1918 in Harrison Co IN ------ +Lucinda F. BYERLY b: Abt. 1852 Indiana -------- 3 Sarah BROWN b: Abt. 1873 -------- 3 Louisa BROWN b: Abt. 1875 -------- 3 George H. BROWN b: Abt. 1877 -------- 3 Edward BROWN b: Abt. 1879 --- 2 John W. BROWN b: Abt. 1859 ------ +AMANDA -------- 3 Charles N. BROWN b: Abt. 1879 Family of Benjamin Brown's brother, George A. Brown: 1 George A. BROWN b: Abt. 1814 TN d: Bet. 1850 - 1855 in Sullivan Co IN - +Sophia WILLIAMS b: 28 Jul 1818 Bradford Co PA m: 11 May 1835 Crawford Co IN d: 23 Oct 1895 Coles Co IL --- 2 Addison Frank BROWN b: 14 Mar 1836 Crawford Co IN d: 17 Oct 1903 Coles Co IL ------ +Elvira GOLDMAN b: Abt. 1841 m: 09 May 1861 Crawford Co IN -------- 3 Charley N. BROWN b: Abt. 1868 -------- 3 Lory B. BROWN b: Abt. 1870 -------- 3 Osa T. BROWN b: Abt. 1872 -------- 3 George BROWN b: Abt. 1875 -------- 3 John W. BROWN b: Abt. 1878 --- 2 Lewis Washington BROWN b: 05 Feb 1838 Crawford Co IN d: 18 Aug 1932 Coles Co IL ------ +Hannah LANDRUS b: 22 Feb 1845 Crawford Co IL m: 12 Feb 1865 Cumberland Co IL d: 09 Aug 1917 Coles Co IL -------- 3 Otto Uriah BROWN b: 11 Oct 1866 -------- 3 Joshua Joseph BROWN b: 10 Oct 1868 -------- 3 Auda Elzada BROWN b: 24 Dec 1870 ------------ +Martin T. ANNIS m: 01 Oct 1889 in Coles Co IL -------- 3 John Alfred BROWN b: 08 Mar 1873 -------- 3 Celinda Amela BROWN b: 06 Oct 1875 -------- 3 Berton BROWN b: 06 Jul 1878 -------- 3 Amanda E. BROWN b: Abt. 1871 -------- 3 Ellen S. BROWN b: Abt. 1882 Indiana d: 1977 in Illinois ------------ +Mack MOYER b: Abt. 1878 -------------- 4 Lewis MOYER b: Abt. 1904 ----------------- +Elcia WARD b: Abt. 1904 Illinois ------------------- 5 Bill MOYER ------------------- 5 Barbara MOYER ------------------- 5 Sara MOYER -------- 3 Grace L. BROWN --- 2 John W. BROWN b: 17 May 1840 Crawford Co IN d: 28 Feb 1913 Coles Co IL ------ +Mary L. HAYS b: 29 Mar 1843 IL m: 26 Sep 1867 Coles Co IL -------- 3 Othwell BROWN b: Abt. 1869 -------- 3 Laura E. BROWN b: Abt. 1871 -------- 3 Maud L. BROWN b: Abt. 1877 --- 2 Levi H. BROWN b: Jun 1844 Crawford Co IN ------ +MARANDA b: Dec 1848 IN --- 2 Laura Ellen BROWN b: Abt. 1846 d: 29 May 1865 Coles Co IL ------ +Myron JONES b: 28 Dec 1846 Cumberland Co IL *2nd Husband of Sophia WILLIAMS: - +John WILLEY m: 30 Sep 1855 Sullivan Co IN *3rd Husband of Sophia WILLIAMS: - +John K. DONNELL m: 25 Dec 1873 in Coles Co IL *4th Husband of Sophia WILLIAMS: - +Levi P. BIVENS m: 12 Sep 1887 in Vigo Co IN Family of Benjamin Brown's brother, Samuel Brown: We have had trouble tracking Samuel Brown and his family after 1860 in Sullivan County Indiana. 1 Samuel BROWN b: Abt. 1825 Indiana - +Cynthia Aemelda JONES b: Abt. 1834 Kentucky m: 03 May 1850 Sullivan Co IN --- 2 George BROWN b: Abt. 1853 --- 2 Chancy BROWN b: Abt. 1855 **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T08:17:50-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] Current Research on Benjamin Brown Part One http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219932350 Summary of Current Research on Benjamin Brown, born 1807 in Greene Co TN, Part One: We now feel quite secure that Benjamin Brown's parents were John and Catherine Hull Brown. John Brown and Caty Hull were married 17 Mar 1807 in Greene County Tennessee. One of our first big clues was the biography of Alfred Brown which Donna had found in a history of McDonough County Illinois, which has previously been published on this list. Although we certainly view biographies with a jaundiced eye, we can't discount their value as a starting point. This biography placed Alfred Brown's birth in Greene County Tennessee, just 3 years after the Birth of Benjamin Brown. "History of McDonough County Illinois, its Cities, Towns, and Villages, with Early Reminiscences, Personal Incidents and Anecdotes, and a Complete Business Directory of the County" by S. J. Clark, Springfield, Ill.: D.W. Lusk, State printer and binder 1878 Page 578--- "Alfred Brown was born in Green county, East Tennessee, June 18, 1810, a son of John and Catherine (Hull) Brown. He a native of Virginia, and she of Pennsylvania, and both were buried in Indiana. The family removed to White county, Tennessee, and subsequently to Harrison county, Indiana, living a portion of the time in the adjoining county, Crawford, where they lived at the time of their death. Alfred was married March 27, 1835, to Sarah V. Shields, of Harrison county, a daughter of Robert and Naomi (Little) Shields. In the fall of 1835, with his family, Alfred removed to Fulton county, Illinois, where he lived till 1852, at which time he came to McDonough and settled on section 1, where he bought 80 acres, afterwards buying 94 acres more. He has lived on this place since; at first living in a small house, but in 1877, he built a fine residence 32x25 and 24x16 feet, one and one-half stories high, costing $1,800. His wife died August 3, 1871, and was buried at Blandinsville, leaving one child--Marinda, now the wife of J. D. Isom, living at the old home, where her father lives with her. She was born May 1, 1849. Mr. Brown is a member of the United Brethren in Christ, as was also his wife and daughter, in which church he has been class-leader for some time. This gentleman is highly respected by all his neighbors, and is considered a very worthy man in every respect." We were shocked when Kathy presented us with information from her Aunt June's files, showing that Benjamin Brown had served in the Civil War and that Elizabeth Brown had filed for a widow's pension. Donna followed up by getting copies of all the original documents and consolidating the information. This set of documents gave us the personal information about Benjamin, letting us know that he was 5 feet 8 inches tall, with dark complexion, gray eyes, and gray hair. This was the place where we finally learned that Elizabeth's maiden name was Elizabeth Spears, by her own testimony, and that she and Benjamin were married in White County Tennessee in 1825. This finally corrected the bad transcription made by a county clerk when he mistakenly srote Elizabeth's maiden name as "Spencer", rather than Spears". Donna's synopsis of Benjamin's Civil War experience has already been previously published on the Illinois Genweb: "BENJAMIN BROWNâ€™S CIVIL WAR PENSION Submitted by: _Donna Walker Wefenstette_ (mailto:WefenstetD@aol.com) He joined Company C, 103rd Illinois Infantry Volunteers on August 11, 1862 and was mustered in Oct 2, 1862. The muster roll reads: 55 years old, 5' 8" tall, dark complexion, gray eyes, grizzled hair. He was discharged on disability March 28, 1863 for chronic dysentery. On June 17, 1879 Benjamin Brown went to lawyers, Searns & Learnan, in Canton, Illinois who helped him fill out papers for a pension. Six affidavits were taken on the following dates: July 31, 1879 from Thadeus Knott, M.D., Ben's doctor before & after the war August 9, 1879 from Carey Westerfield, in same regiment August 16, 1879 from Jeremiah Vion, in same regiment August 18, 1879 from T. H. Fleming, M.D., regimental surgeon August 29, 1879 from Amos Lawrence, in same regiment August 18, 1879 from Ben himself. All these affidavits were sent to the Department of the Interior, pension office in Washington, D.C. On Feb 7, 1880, the commissioner gave the application number 310.215 but returned it for more information regarding his health and medical treatment both before and after the war. (Since they had the affidavits, including one from Dr. Nott his family physician, it's not clear why they wanted more information!) November 11, 1880, the pension office requested a full military history from the adjutant general's office in Washington D.C. January 20, 1881, the adjutant general's office returned a form to the commissioner of pensions with the military history. February 5, 1881, the surgeon general's office returned a form to the pension office for a report of hospital treatment and a form with the certificate of discharge for disability. By then, Ben had died and the application is stamped ABANDONED. February 3, 1881, Ben's wife, Elizabeth, went to a different lawyer, Charles J. Main of Canton to file an application for a widow's pension. ( This form confirms her maiden name of Spears and the date of her marriage as October 25, 1825 in White County Tennessee) The pension office again took up the application, this time for a widowâ€™s pension, assigning the number 480.475, and on June 22, 1881 they requested information from the adjutant general's office regarding the military records of Amos Lawrence, Jeremiah Vion and Carey Westerfield as to the presence or absence on or about the time they were with Co C, 103 Ill Vol Co. August 6, 1881 the adjutant general's office returned information on these three, that they were indeed with the 103rd regiment at the time of Ben's disability. On June 22, 1883 the pension office sent P.M. Slaughter a letter regarding the standing in the community and general reputation for truth of T. H. Flemming, M.D. The handwritten reply is: "Canton, Ill June 25, The general reputation for truth and standing in the community of Dr. T. H. Flemming is good (underlined) Yours Resp P.M. Slaughter" June 22, 1883, a letter was sent to Dr. Thaddeus Nott but was returned by the postmaster with a handwritten note on the letter: T. Knott m.d. is dead J H Hyde pm (post master) psd (initials) asst (Dr. Nott died Aug 5, 1881) Feb 7, 1887 the pension office sent a letter to Mrs. Benj Brown but it had a hand written note on the envelope "return to writer". March 22, 1887 a letter was sent to the postmaster in Bryant, Illinois for "the last known post-office address of Mrs. Elizabeth Brown who lived in your vicinity in 1881." There is one line on a piece of paper "Died at this place three or four years ago." Her application is also stamped ABANDONED. It appears that neither Ben nor Elizabeth received a pension. I believe if he had filed a claim in 1865 or 1870, he would have received a pension, but 18 years after the fact made the pension office suspicious. The claims floundered in the bureaucratic paperwork and time ran out, first for Ben and then for his wife, Elizabeth." The next step was to connect Benjamin to some parents. Although we had been pretty sure that Ben and Alfred were either brothers or cousins, there was really no proof. Their closeness was further indicated by the fact that Hiram Brown named one of his sons John Isom Brown, apparently in honor of Alfred's son-in-law, John Isom. We knew that Benjamin Brown lived in Harrison County Indiana, along with other Greene County Browns, Trobaughs, and other collateral families, and that they mostly lived near the Crawford County line, in Western Scott Township (present day Harrison township), and that a Benjamin owned a farm in Crawford County for a brief time, just before Ben made his move to Fulton County Illinois. It took a long time to figure out that John and Catherine Hull Brown moved from Greene County to White County TN and to Harrison County Indiana, where Catherine died in about 1833, and that John Brown subsequently remarried, to a woman named â€œElizabethâ€, either Elizabeth Snowden or Elizabeth Stewart, but that can be ironed out a bit later. In 1820 and 1830, John's wife is enumerated as being in the same age bracket as John. From 1840 onward, his wife is ten years younger, and, beginning in 1850, she is named Elizabeth. Phyllis and I finally identified the following census records as being the John Brown who married Caty Hull ++ Federal Census of 1820 of White County Tennessee, page 316 Brown, John 3 2 0 0 1 0 -- 2 0 0 1 0 0 3 males under 10 (John H. Brown; George A. Brown; & ?) 2 males 10-16 (Benjamin Brown; Alfred Brown) 1 male 26-45 (John Brown, HOH) 2 females under 10 (??) 1 female 26-45 (Catharine Hull Brown) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------- ++Federal Census of 1830 of Harrison Township, Crawford County Indiana, page 086 Brown, John -- Head of Household -- Enumerated next to brother Frederick Brown and two names from brother George Brown Jr. 2 males under 5 (Samuel Brown & ?) 2 males 5-10 (George A. Brown; John H. Brown) 2 males 15-20 (Alfred Brown & ?) 1 male 20-30 (?) 1 male 40-50 (John Brown) 1 female 10-15 (?) 1 female 15-20 (?) 1 female 40-50 (Catharine Hull Brown) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ ++Federal Census of 1840 of Sterling Township, Crawford County Indiana, page 375 Brown, John -- Head of Household one male 10-15 (?); one male 15-20 (Samuel); one male 50-60 (John Brown); one female 40-50 Second Wife, Elizabeth) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ ++Federal Census of 1850 of Sterling Township, Crawford County Indiana, page 31 384 384 John Brown 66 M Farmer 300 Virginia Elizabeth " 56 Kentucky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- ++Federal Census of 1860 of Ohio Township, Crawford Co Indiana, page 571[?] 1433 1434 John Brown 76 M Farmer 390 200 Virginia Elizabeth 65 F Kentucky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- ++Federal Census of 1870 of Ohio Township, Crawford Co Indiana, page 61 51 51 Brown, John 87 M Farmer 700 150 Virginia Elizabeth 75 F Keeping House Kentucky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- We still didn't have anything tangible to tie Benjamin Brown to Alfred and back to John Brown and Caty Hull. I found a will abstract for John Brown's will in: "Slevin, Ruth M. Will records: books 1-2. 1974. 71 pp.", but although the abstract mentioned Benjamin, it did not mention Alfred, and we already had a biography that tied Alfred to John Brown. Karyn got tired of my dragging my heels, so she wrote off to Crawford County for a copy of the original will, and I did a verbatim transcript, which we'll publish in part two. Regards, Jim Patrick **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-08-28T08:05:50-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] daughter of Nancy Brown continued- http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219762168 I have no relatives living to provide any more info than I have. My father came home on leave one night,he said he thought he was in my mother's bed but turned out it was Nancy(LOL)! They resided in Kansas City KS. My dad,Ralph James Anthony was serving in the Army at the time from 1940 to 1945. Nancy then becming pregnant moved to California where she married and gave birth. Spouse unkown. This child is my half sister and was visiting my father in hospital in March 1995. but he could not recall her name. Jim Anthony <jimant60@yahoo.com> 2008-08-26T08:49:28-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] looking for daughter of Nancy Brown... http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-08/1219753474 My name is Jim Anthony and I am searching for a daughter of Nancy Brown,she was best friend of my mother before I was born(previousto 1947). My father told me I had a sister on the last day of his life! This all happened in the early to mid 1940s. I will need to give additional info in another post. Email jimant60@yahoo.com Jim Anthony <jimant60@yahoo.com> 2008-08-26T06:24:34-06:00 [BROWN-BEN-1807] DNA, once again http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BROWN-BEN-1807/2008-07/1216565561 We've run across a possible DNA match for our early stalwart donors, James Earl Brown and the late Arthur King Brown III. A fellow named Kevin Brown has submitted a sample to a lab called "Relative Genetics", a different lab than the one which did the analysis for our guys -- FTDNA "Family Tree DNA". Since the two labs analyze different markers, the overlap is not complete, and it's difficult to discern a firm match, but I think there are enough similarities to suggest a connection. Kevin's ancestor, John Brown, was born in about 1750, apparently in Pennsylvania, something which might be consistent with our Brown line. I've encouraged Kevin to submit another sample, this time to the Sorenson Group. The Sorenson Group will perform an analysis for free, as opposed to the couple of hundreds of dollars from other labs for a profile that is comprised of some different markers. A couple of submissions to the Sorenson Group from Ben's male Brown direct-line descendants would fill in some other markers that we don't currently know about. _Sorenson DNA_ (http://www.smgf.org/) The Sorenson Group provides free Y-DNA or mtDNA analysis through their foundation in Utah. Although the Group says that they are not affiliated with the Mormons, they are affiliated with Brigham Young University and they have full access to the databases at the LDS Library, which they ultimately tie in to the pedigrees that are submitted by donors. As far as I'm concerned, they are all tied in together philosophically, if not legally and formally. I've submitted my own sample for analysis, despite the fact that I've already found matches in the Patrick Family DNA Project. These results from Sorenson will provide me with a much broader range of markers. I encourage everyone to have their male relatives of any surname participate in the Sorenson database. It's free and the more profiles that exists in the database, the more important it will be in genealogical research. Just one example of this is the fact that there were at least four distinct Brown lines in Washington and Greene Counties in TN around 1800. There was the family of Jacob Brown, the Revolutionary War figure who died in the Battle of Kings Mountain; the Jacob Brown from Germany (The Wagon-Maker) who was married to Elizabeth Goettgen; the line of Jotham Brown; and the family of our Benjamin Brown (b.1807 TN). When our first generous donors submitted samples, none of those other lines were in the database. Now, they are all represented by multiple donors, and there is no doubt about the results. None of those people has even the slightest match with the two descendants of Benjamin Brown. The differences are so great that we can completely rule out a connection. However, as the databases expand, we have a greater and greater chance of finding a connection to Ben's line. Please try to participate. Jim Patrick Tampa Florida **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Tambaymar@aol.com 2008-07-20T08:52:41-06:00