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Rootsweb.com RSS Feed for BUNKER http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BUNKER Rootsweb.com RSS feed for BUNKER en-us Copyright 2005 by MyFamily.inc 2009-01-08T08:42:09-06:00 helpdesk@rootsweb.com helpdesk@rootsweb.com Rootsweb.com 2005-05-01T00:00:00-06:00 1 hourly [BUNKER] new book on blog http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1231429329 If you have not read the Bunker blog lately go take a look at Doug's review of a new book that looks like a great learning tool for people doing any kind of research. www.bunkerfamilyassn.org Gil is always telling me I have pulled rabbits out of my magic hat when I find someone we are searching and connect them to one of our families. I use internet searches all the time to do this, not just the genealogical sites. Limiting your search to just those sites is not a good idea but many people do not know how to do more extensive research. This book Doug recommends looks like it will help you a lot. In fact, even though I have been doing genealogical research, sociological research, legal research and historical research for over 50 years (boy, I am old!) I am going to get the book as I am sure it will give me even more ideas. And by the way. If you don't look at the BFA blog every once in a while you will miss a lot of news. Don't confine yourself to just this list. Bette _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-08T08:42:09-06:00 [BUNKER] calculating birthdates http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1231347646 If you have a date of death and age you can use this site to calculate the date of birth. www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveTM Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-07T10:00:46-06:00 [BUNKER] research sources http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1231343454 This is from NEHGS newsletter this week. By searching for Bunker and omitting hill from the search parameters I got over 72,000 hits. You might want to try it. Research Recommendations: GenealogyBank.comby Michael J. Leclerc A couple of years ago, Newsbank decided to create an online service that would be helpful to genealogists. Since that time, GenealogyBank.com has grown into a tremendous collection of electronic resources that are very valuable for genealogists. The information on GenealogyBank is divided into two sections: Historical Collections and Modern Collections. The Historical Collections section has three components. The first is Historical Books. This unique source provides the complete text of almost 12,000 genealogies, biographies, sermons, local histories, and more. These materials were all published in the United States between 1801 and 1900. In addition to the obvious genealogical value, many of these titles will allow you to get more information on how your ancestors lived. Thomas White Ruble’s The American Medical Guide for the Use of Families, published in 1810, allows you to understand medical treatments of the time. Various sales catalogues will show you examples of your family’s possessions in different eras. Historical Documents contains information from the American State Papers (1789–1838) and the U.S. Serials Set (1817–1980). These important records from the U.S. Congress include valuable information on military service, pensions for soldiers and widows, land grants, orphans, and more. Most important is the Historical Newspapers section, which includes more than 133 million articles from more than 2,500 newspapers published in the U.S. between 1690 and 1980. Every state is represented in this collection, providing a valuable source of marriage and death notices as well as obituaries and everyday news. The Modern Collections section contains almost 30 million obituaries published in more than 1,100 U.S. newspapers from 1977 to the present. Among the major newspapers represented are the Boston Evening Transcript, the Hartford Courant, and the Boston Globe. GenealogyBank also provides free access to the Social Security Death Index. An annual membership is $69.95. You can subscribe monthly for $19.95. They are currently offering a special 30-day introductory offer for $9.95. You can search without being a subscriber, but you must have a subscription to view results. _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveTM Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-07T08:50:54-06:00 [BUNKER] English research source http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1231194920 We got this and thought we would pass it on. I have not checked it out and do not know what happens if you find any Bunkers since this is a list from a professional genealogist. Bette My name is Nathan W. Murphy. I am a professional genealogist in Salt > Lake City. I have created a large list of English family history links > that has become popular throughout the English-speaking world. I > thought it might prove to be of value to your members. If you maintain > a list of recommended links on your website, would you consider adding > a link to my site? Or mention it in your newsletter?>> Expert Links: English Family History and Genealogy > http://www.pricegen.com/english_genealogy.html>> Simon Fowler, in Ancestor's Magazine blog (The National Archives of > England) wrote a review of the site (3 Oct 2007): > http://www.ancestorsmagazine.co.uk/?page=blog&date=200710>> Thank you for your consideration.>> Best wishes,>> Nathan W. Murphy, MA, AG(R)> MA in English Local History (University of Leicester) Researcher and > Marketing Director Price & Associates, Inc.> http://www.pricegen.com> _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-05T15:35:20-06:00 [BUNKER] history in murals http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1230998071 Many places are doing murals now all over their towns. When I was in Philadelphia I was very interested in the murals they have now. Here are some from Tucson. Tucson is said to have over 400 murals. How don't know how many Randy has online now but you can see for yourself. Some are in the Mexican tradition which is a combination of Aztec and Catholic traditions. Some tend to advertize a company and some are just fun. Murals with an historic theme can be found all over the place. Check out your town's murals. Many state houses and other government building have murals depicting the local history. Many convention centers also have them. If you are working on your family history a picture of one of these might be a good addition to your work. Bette _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-03T08:54:31-06:00 [BUNKER] learning free http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1230912198 ABC news has on their website abcnews.com a link to OpenCourseWare Consortium that connects you to sites that offer free college courses in virtually every subject. There is no credit, no contact with the professors and probably some other limitations depending on the course. However, if you want to learn about any subject or more about the history of places that your ancestors lived you might want to explore this option. Very long URL. You may have to cut and paste. http://www.ocwconsortium.org/index.php?q=find+courses+about...&option=com_coursefinder&uss=1&l=&s=&Itemid=166&b.x=44&b.y=8 _________________________________________________________________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-02T09:03:18-06:00 Re: [BUNKER] religions http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1230826341 Karen: Thank you for the interesting explanation. Bette from the nice warm Tucson (temps in the 70s the last few days) but born in the cold, cold Iowa.> From: kmtopp@netins.net> To: bunker@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:45:59 -0600> Subject: Re: [BUNKER] religions> > Dear Betty> > I can tell you a bit about the Methodist Episcopal Church since I am almost> a lifetime member (67 years) though it is now called The United Methodist> Church. The founder of the UMC was John Wesley and he was an ordained> Episcopal (the state church of England)priest. He had a strange warming of> the heart as he was searching for spiritual life and began preaching and> ministering to the poorest people in the fields and mines. This was at> about the time of the Industrial Revolution and conditions were terrible in> England with poverty, child labor etc. rampant. He was cast out of the> Episcopal Church because of taking the message of salvation to the streets> and fields. His work became the Methodist Episcopal Church eventually> though he really did not want to separate from the Church of England. The> name was a derisive term applied to all who followed him, calling them> "Method-ists" since they were methodical in their discipline of prayer,> worship, service to others, etc. During the civil war, the southern> Methodist Church separated from the North and later reunited. In the 60's> the United Brethren Church united with the Methodist Church to form the> United Methodist Church. I believe Jacob Otterbein is given credit for the> founding of this church, though it was a unification of the Evangelical and> the Church of the Brethren so he should be listed as a founder of the UMC as> well as John Wesley.> > Not a very good explanation but the best I can do on short notice. I am a> great admirer of John Wesley. I consider him one of the best men that ever> lived. It is said that he saved England from a revolution such as France> endured.> > Karene Topp (in cold, cold Iowa)> > -----Original Message-----> From: bunker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bunker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Bette Richards> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:03 PM> To: Bunker list> Subject: [BUNKER] religions> > > I recently read a little biography where the husband was a Presybterian and> the wife was a Spiritualist. Coincidently, I was reading a book about> Spiritualism at the time. It made me think about how much we can learn> about our ancestors by exploring their religion.> > What did it mean that George of Charlestown was a proponent of> Antimonionism? What did it mean that his eldest son went to Harvard and> became a minister of the First Church in Boston? What about our Quaker> ancestors, especially the earliest ones? And the Mormons? They were all> persecuted for their religion. What kind of people must they have been? I> have an ancestor that was a member of the Methodist Episcopal church. I> thought those were two separate churches. What was this church? Who were> the Brethren? Another bunch of my ancestors.> > Usually, we can find very little about our ancestors except vital statistics> and they don't tell us anything about their personalities. If we know their> religions or the fact they did not practise a religion, that tells us> something about them. We need to be careful though because the churches> have changed over the years.> > To find out more about the practises and importance of the religions of our> ancestors, check out the libraries. Ask the reference librarians. They> love a challenge. If there is a church of that denomination in your town,> check with them to see if you can find a history of their church. Look at> the local histories to see when each church was established. There is all> kinds of information you can find out that might help you understand what> your ancestors were doing and what they were like.> > Were your ancestors buried in a church cemetery or a public one? Was there> a church cemetery in that town at that time? Was there a public cemetery in> that town then? > > And what did it mean that the original proprietors of Nantucket were pretty> adament that there would be no church established on the island and that it> took a long time for that to happen. And imagine what those early Quakers> did there at that time. Also, remember that not all the Nantucket Bunkers> were Quakers. Were the early Nantucketers and others of our ancestors> protesting the fact that the law required you spend all day Sunday in> "meeting" or be fined and maybe even whipped? What about our ancestors that> did suffer that treatment and still refused to obey the law? > > Why is it that the founding fathers were insistent that there would be no> mention of God in the constitution? And Thomas Jefferson who wrote that> constitution and who did not go to church? > > I have not found a Bunker that was a Puritan. What was the Puritan religion> and why do you suppose the Bunkers did not favor that belief? > > There are so many interesting questions that can be answered if you study> the religion that your ancestors practised and what it was like at that> time.> > Bette> > > _________________________________________________________________> Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.> http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywher> e_122008> *****************************> If you wish to join the Bunker Family Association, please visit> http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org.> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> BUNKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the message> > > *****************************> If you wish to join the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org.> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUNKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2009-01-01T09:12:21-06:00 Re: [BUNKER] religions http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2009-01/1230821159 Dear Betty I can tell you a bit about the Methodist Episcopal Church since I am almost a lifetime member (67 years) though it is now called The United Methodist Church. The founder of the UMC was John Wesley and he was an ordained Episcopal (the state church of England)priest. He had a strange warming of the heart as he was searching for spiritual life and began preaching and ministering to the poorest people in the fields and mines. This was at about the time of the Industrial Revolution and conditions were terrible in England with poverty, child labor etc. rampant. He was cast out of the Episcopal Church because of taking the message of salvation to the streets and fields. His work became the Methodist Episcopal Church eventually though he really did not want to separate from the Church of England. The name was a derisive term applied to all who followed him, calling them "Method-ists" since they were methodical in their discipline of prayer, worship, service to others, etc. During the civil war, the southern Methodist Church separated from the North and later reunited. In the 60's the United Brethren Church united with the Methodist Church to form the United Methodist Church. I believe Jacob Otterbein is given credit for the founding of this church, though it was a unification of the Evangelical and the Church of the Brethren so he should be listed as a founder of the UMC as well as John Wesley. Not a very good explanation but the best I can do on short notice. I am a great admirer of John Wesley. I consider him one of the best men that ever lived. It is said that he saved England from a revolution such as France endured. Karene Topp (in cold, cold Iowa) -----Original Message----- From: bunker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bunker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bette Richards Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:03 PM To: Bunker list Subject: [BUNKER] religions I recently read a little biography where the husband was a Presybterian and the wife was a Spiritualist. Coincidently, I was reading a book about Spiritualism at the time. It made me think about how much we can learn about our ancestors by exploring their religion. What did it mean that George of Charlestown was a proponent of Antimonionism? What did it mean that his eldest son went to Harvard and became a minister of the First Church in Boston? What about our Quaker ancestors, especially the earliest ones? And the Mormons? They were all persecuted for their religion. What kind of people must they have been? I have an ancestor that was a member of the Methodist Episcopal church. I thought those were two separate churches. What was this church? Who were the Brethren? Another bunch of my ancestors. Usually, we can find very little about our ancestors except vital statistics and they don't tell us anything about their personalities. If we know their religions or the fact they did not practise a religion, that tells us something about them. We need to be careful though because the churches have changed over the years. To find out more about the practises and importance of the religions of our ancestors, check out the libraries. Ask the reference librarians. They love a challenge. If there is a church of that denomination in your town, check with them to see if you can find a history of their church. Look at the local histories to see when each church was established. There is all kinds of information you can find out that might help you understand what your ancestors were doing and what they were like. Were your ancestors buried in a church cemetery or a public one? Was there a church cemetery in that town at that time? Was there a public cemetery in that town then? And what did it mean that the original proprietors of Nantucket were pretty adament that there would be no church established on the island and that it took a long time for that to happen. And imagine what those early Quakers did there at that time. Also, remember that not all the Nantucket Bunkers were Quakers. Were the early Nantucketers and others of our ancestors protesting the fact that the law required you spend all day Sunday in "meeting" or be fined and maybe even whipped? What about our ancestors that did suffer that treatment and still refused to obey the law? Why is it that the founding fathers were insistent that there would be no mention of God in the constitution? And Thomas Jefferson who wrote that constitution and who did not go to church? I have not found a Bunker that was a Puritan. What was the Puritan religion and why do you suppose the Bunkers did not favor that belief? There are so many interesting questions that can be answered if you study the religion that your ancestors practised and what it was like at that time. Bette _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywher e_122008 ***************************** If you wish to join the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUNKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "Karene Topp" <kmtopp@netins.net> 2009-01-01T07:45:59-06:00 [BUNKER] good book http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2008-12/1230696104 I have been reading a book that is remarkable. I have learned a lot in just a few pages. It is DAYS OF DESTINY , Crossroads in American History edited by James M. McPherson and Alan Brinkley and published by the Society of American Historians in 2001. Your best bet for finding it is probably the library. It is well worth looking for. What it does is examine 31 days that changed the course of history in America. Each piece has a different author and they are the very best in the field. This is really easy reading and not boring like so many histories. It starts with King Phillip's Quarel, June 17, 1675. It proceeds through another 30 days and includes The Senaca Falls Convention (feminist movement), The Day of Dred Scott (abolition of slavery decision), Chief Joseph, The Scopes trial (Darwin and evolution), The atomic bomb dropped on Japan, and ends with The Battle of Biotechnology, June 14, 1973. There are many photos and quotes from the words of the actual participants. It is not the ordinary book of history. If your family was in the area at the time of any of these events you will learn much about their life style and thoughts. And of course, Bunkers were involved with all the events in American history whether we are mentioned by name or not. I highly recommend this book. Bette _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 Bette Richards <betterichs@live.com> 2008-12-30T21:01:44-06:00 Re: [BUNKER] IGI http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BUNKER/2008-12/1230633594 Sorry forgot to say that I'm getting worried about the $300 sent to me,your daughter has said "some time ago" but it still hasn't turned up , have to wait a bit longer ,I suppose. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette Richards" <betterichs@live.com> To: "Bunker list" <bunker@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: [BUNKER] IGI I was corresponding with someone who said their source of information was the International Genealogical Index (IGI). Knowing that errors on that index are the norm, I tried to explain that was not a good source. Out of curiosity, I decided to check out one Bunker and compare the entries. This is what I found. George Bunker, born 1618 Ipswich, Essex, England, died 26 May 1658, son of Quilluame Boncoeur and Joanne, married Jane Godfrey 1643 in Topsfield, Essex Co., MA George Bunker, born about 1620, christened 16 May 1658 in Topsfield, Essex Co., MA, father - William, married Jane Godfrey who was born about 1624 in Topsfield, Essex Co., MA and died 31 Dec. 1662 in Nantucket, MA. With the same basic information as given above there were two more entries. One said that George married Jane Godfrey 5 May 1644 in Nantucket, MA and another said he married Jane Godfrey about 1646. George Bunker born 1620, Maulden, Bedford, England married Jane Elizabeth Godfrey 5 May 1644, Maulden, England and had a child "Miss Bunker" born in 1658 in Newburyport, Essex Co., MA. George Bunker born about 1615 Bengeo, England, son of William, married Jane Godfrey, Deborah Coffin and Abigail Worth. Actual documentary records to support anything about this George Bunker are the record of his marriage to Elizabeth Godfree 5 May 1644 in Maulden, Bedfordshire, England (no name for their parents), his estate inventory was dated 26 or 29 June 1658 and the administration named his widow as Jane Bunker. Jane Bunker married Richards Swain 15 July 1658 and she allegedly died on Nantucket and was the first person buried there. However, there are no contempory (records dated at that time) records for her death or burial. There is a record of her marriage to Richard Swain. There is none for George and anyone named Jane. George allegedly died on 26 May 1658 but I have no written proof of that. There is a baptismal record of his son, William, 17 June 1648 in Tingrith, Bedfordshire, England which I have a copy of and it lists William's father's name as George but there is no name for the mother which was customary at that time. George was baptized 25 April 1621 in Tingrith but we do not have a date of birth. By process of elimination, the BFA has concluded that George's father's name was Timothy. In the record of the administration of George's estate, his children are named as Elizabeth age 12, William age 10, Mary age 6, Ann age 4 and Martha age 2. DNA tests indicate that George was descended from Oliver Bunker who was the grandson of Roger Bunker of Tingrith. The descent from Roger to Oliver is traced through wills of which we have copies. Of the IGI listings not one of them was correct. So, be very careful with accepting any information on that index as being valid. It can be used as an indicater of possible places to look for sources but it is not much good for anything else. The same can be said for Ancestry's One World Tree. On the recent Bedford Bunker CD there are a lot of references to One World Tree (especially amongst the Coffin family which I did not verify) but I have said it is suspect and should be used only as a guide for future research projects. When researching your family, write the IGI or One World Tree down as a source but indicate or know it is highly likely to have errors. Another source filled with errors but not nearly as bad as these two, are the census records. Those records are only as good as the enumerator, the memories of the people giving information and the transcribers. Sometimes the information came from neighbors or landlords or employers and is not very good at all. Bette _________________________________________________________________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 ***************************** If you wish to join the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUNKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "brian bunker" <bbls23237@blueyonder.co.uk> 2008-12-30T03:39:54-06:00