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From: Gordon Bonnet <>
Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Clement, Jean-Pierre -- brick wall
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 09:26:07 -0500
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Hi Stanley,

The marriage record, along with the source of the Dunkerque information,
is in Fr. Hebert's "South Louisiana Records."

I don't know for a fact that Jean-Pierre and Jean-Hilaire weren't
brothers; it's entirely possible. I've never found anything that would
connect them for sure. Both families ended up in Lafourche Parish (and,
in fact, I descend from both of them). However, just because there's no
other Clement family in the ships' records doesn't mean his family
wasn't there; apparently Vincent and Clement were used fairly
interchangeably by the descendents of Clement Vincent and Madeleine
Levron, so they may have been Vincents in the ships' records and
Jean-Pierre became known solely by Clement after his arrival in Louisiana.

Of course, all of this is speculation. I still don't have any real
evidence that Jean-Pierre was a Vincent.

I'll keep looking....

Thanks for writing,

Gordon

Stanley LeBlanc wrote:

>Gordon,
>
>What is the source for the marriage record of August 27, 1810 for
>Jean-Pierre Clement and Adelaide de l'Aune? It isn't in DOBR, v.3
>[1804-1819]. There are several children for Jean-Pierre and Adelaide.
>The earlist one was for Abdela Severina bn. 4 May 1811. The sponsors
>were Pablo Valentin Boudraux and Marie Celeste Delaunne, aunt.
>
>Adelaide was born about 1789 [based upon the age on the 1795 census
>records] after the family arrived from France on the L'Amitie.
>
>There is only one Clement family on the seven ships and Jean [son of
>Hilaire] married Sophie Boudreaux. There were other Clement [Clemente]
>lines in Louisiana at the time so Jean-Pierre must belong to one of them
>[more research required]
>
>The issue re Dunkirk may have come from an entry in DOBR, v.2
>[1770-1803], p. 191 re a Maria Clemenco [Clemanso], widow oif Pedro
>Trahan [Jaun and Francisca Gauthrot of Virginia] who married Luis
>Delanoir [Pedro and Maria Dominion Noblez of Dunkirk in Flanders].
>
>Stanley LeBlanc
>http://www.thecajuns.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:]
>Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:30 PM
>To:
>Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Clement, Jean-Pierre -- brick wall
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for any clues as to the parents of my ancestor Jean-Pierre
>Clement, b. ca. 1780, who m. August 27, 1810 in Assumption Parish LA to
>Adelaide de l'Aune of Acadia.
>
>On his marriage record he is said to be "of Dunkerque." This is a
>coastal town in (very far) northern France. While I didn't think that
>any Acadian exiles got that far north (I thought most were in Normandy
>and Brittany?), it's possible that he, like his wife, was Acadian.
>(It's also possible that he was non-Acadian French, of course.)
>
>I've thought for years that he was of the Vincent dit Clement line, but
>haven't been able to fit him in. He is definitely _not_ the son of Jean
>
>Vincent and Jeanne Baste, as some have claimed. They had two children
>named Jean Pierre -- one born in 1778, the other in 1784 -- but both
>died young.
>
>One piece of information which leads me to believe that he was of the
>Vincent family is that he recorded a cattle brand on April 20, 1837 --
>the brand was "JV". As many brands were hereditary, it would make sense
>
>if he inherited this from his father -- who was a Vincent. Of course,
>this is only a suggestive piece of evidence and is light years from
>actual proof.
>
>Does anyone have any information which might pin down Jean-Pierre
>Clement's parents' names? Am I correct in my thought that there were
>few Acadian exiles in the Dunkerque area, or is that incorrect?
>
>Thanks, as always, for any information or ideas you might be willing to
>provide.
>
>cheers,
>
>Gordon Bonnet
>Trumansburg NY
>
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