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From: "Rita" <>
Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Husband(s) of Marguerite POIRIER b abt 1723
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:13:21 -0500
In-Reply-To: <17721A8D-E205-11D9-9B3C-0050E4A60866@swbell.net>
Hi all,
I agree with Roger that Vincent Arseneau & Pierre Vincent are not the same
person.
POSSIBLE??? parents of Pierre Vincent & Anne Vincent [Labauve]:
Pierre Vincent, dit Clement (Clement & Madeleine Levron) & Blanche Michel
(Louis & Marguerite Forest) [DGFA p. 1583]
By the 1752 census [Rivière de Pengiguit], Pierre Vincent, dit Clement is
already married to his second wife Rosalie dite Rose Barrieau. This couple
is listed with two children [obviously children of Pierre's 1st marriage to
Blanche Michel, since he had just married for the 2nd time on May 8, 1752 to
Rosalie Barrieau].
The two children are listed as:
"Hesidore Vincent, aged 4 years. [could this child be the Pierre Vincent in
question?]
Anne, aged 8 years."
As Roger mentioned,
"The name of the mother of Pierre and Anne Vincent in the marriage
dispensation (2nd degree Consanguinity) for Pierre Charles Vincent with
Celeste Labauve in 1796 is listed as Puariet which some people have
interpreted as Poirier..."
I have to wander...Was Marguerite FOREST [grandmother of Pierre & Anna
Vincent] named in the dispensation request instead of their mother's name,
Blanche Michel???
This would not be the first record that I've come across where a woman's
name was mistakenly given as her mother's name instead of her own name.
Of course, this is only my theory, but would love to have some input from
the list!
Thanks, Paul for bringing this one up...it is one that I had put on the back
burner until now.
Rita Hargroder, nee Duplechain
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Rozendal [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:32 PM
To:
Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Husband(s) of Marguerite POIRIER b abt 1723
> Vincent Arseneau (Charles & Françoise Mirande) married ca 1748
> Marguerite Poirier (Joseph & Jeanne Gaudet) SAW p. 30.
>
> Pierre Vincent may not have married a Marguerite Poirier. The name of
> the mother of Pierre and Anne Vincent in the marriage dispensation
> (2nd degree Consanguinity) for Pierre Charles Vincent with Celeste
> Labauve in 1796 is listed as Puariet which some people have
> interpreted as Poirier. However, it is significant that parents for
> this "Marguerite Poirier" have not been found.
>
> Vincent Arseneau and Pierre Vincent are not the same person.
>
> Roger A. Rozendal
>
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2005, at 02:09 PM, Paul LeBlanc wrote:
>
>> Could Marguerite POIRIER m (24) Vincent ARSENEAU DGFA v 1 p 30 have
>> earlier married Pierre Vincent and had at least two children listed
>> below?
>>
>> Could Vincent ARSENEAU be the same person as Pierre Vincent? This
>> would push the marriage date back to v 1738 from v 1748.
>>
>> Does anyone have children for Marguerite & Vincent Arseneau? What
>> names?
>>
>> They are in 1752 census. Does anyone have them anyplace earlier?
>>
>> Paul Le B
>>
>>
>> ===============================================================
>>
>> Modified Register for Marguerite POIRIER
>>
>> First Generation
>>
>> 1. Marguerite POIRIER[1] was born about 1723.
>> Marguerite married[1] (24) Vincent ARSENEAU Pierre Vincent ?[1], son
>> of (4) Charles ARSENEAU and (1b) Francoise MIRANDE, about 1748.
>> Vincent was born 6 Jan 1719 and was baptized 19 Feb 1719 in
>> Beaubassin, Acadia .
>> Location: Could Pierre Vincent be Vincent Arseneau?
>> They had the following children:
>> + 2 F i. Anne VINCENT was born about 1738.
>> + 3 M ii. Pierre VINCENT was born about 1745.
>>
>> Second Generation
>>
>> 2. Anne VINCENT (Marguerite) was born about 1738.
>> Anne married Antoine Zenon LABAUVE, son of Antoine LABAUVE and
>> Jacqueline Catherine LEJEUNE, about 1756. Antoine was born about 1732
>> in Grand Pre, Acadia.
>> They had the following children:
>> 4 F i. Celeste LABAUVE was born about 1780 in St
>> James, LA.
>> Celeste married[2] Pierre Charles VINCENT, son of Pierre VINCENT and
>> Marguerite CORMIER, on 14 Jan 1797 in St James Catholic Church, St
>> James, LA. Pierre was born in St James, LA.
>> 2nd degree Consanguinity
>> 3. Pierre VINCENT (Marguerite) was born about 1745 in Pisiguit,
>> Acadia.
>> Pierre married Marguerite CORMIER, daughter of (15) Joseph CORMIER
>> and Marie ARSENEAU. Marguerite was born about 1743 in Beaubassin,
>> Acadia.
>> They had the following children:
>> 5 F i. Marguerite Rosalie VINCENT Viencenice was born
>> about Jun 1775 in St James, LA and was baptized[3] 20 Jul 1775 in St
>> James, LA.
>> Marguerite married[4] Joseph GUEDRY, son of Joseph GUEDRY and
>> Elizabeth COMEAU Isabelle, on 5 May 1795 in St James, St James, LA.
>> Joseph was born 1770.
>> wit santiago guedry & Miguel Lambert
>> 6 M ii. Pierre Charles VINCENT was born in St James,
>> LA.
>> Pierre married[2] Celeste LABAUVE, daughter of Antoine Zenon LABAUVE
>> and Anne VINCENT, on 14 Jan 1797 in St James Catholic Church, St
>> James, LA. Celeste was born about 1780 in St James, LA.
>> 2nd degree Consanguinity
>>
Appendix A - Sources
>>
>> 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes
>> 1636-1714 v1, p 29-31 Arseneau Charles (4).
>> 2. Diocese of Baton Rouge Catholic Church Records, v 2 p 721 (SJA-2,
>> 27).
>> 3. Diocese of Baton Rouge, v 2 p 721 (SJA-1, 27a).
>> 4. Diocese of Baton Rouge, v 2 p 339 (SJA-2, 31).
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