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From: "Sue Maxwell" <>
Subject: Re: [ADVANRES] "died at sea"
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:38:22 -0700
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Is there any record of the ship he supposedly was on when he died?
no- it just says he died at sea
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From: "bob gillis" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ADVANRES] "died at sea"


>
>
> Sue Maxwell wrote:
>> In my research to find the childhood family of my ggg grandfather,
>> Shubael Swain, I thought I had found the perfect match in so many
>> ways. The problem is that this Shubael Swain is supposed to have died
>> at sea with a possible brother in 1808, and mine lived til 1849. He
>> was a ship captain.
>
> What was the brother's given name?
> When did your Shubael show up in New York? pehpas he left the ship when
> it called in NYC
>
> Is there any record of the ship he supposedly was on when he died?
>>
>> I am sure I could be wrong about this family being his family of
>> origin, but so many factors point to them. Is there anyway to prove
>> or disprove that someone died at sea? I looked at the original
>> handwritten records where the information is recorded, on microfilm
>> yesterday. His wife was Sally, which would fit with Sarah, and it
>> says he died in NY, which is where mine was. The information comes
>> from two sources, The Nantucket Vital Records, as well as the Chales
>> Folger notebooks, which are extensive. There is a question about his
>> records, whether everything he writes about occurred in Nantucket.
>
> The Charles Folger Notebooks are notorious for their misinformation See
> the introduction to the Nantucket Tan Book. Look for the Nantucket
> Probate records or Index to see if there is any file for a Shubael Swain
> in 1808 or 1809. or guardianship for Swain children.
>
> Is there any reocrd of wife Sally or children born in Nantucket after
> 1808?
>
> I think you will be better following this thought on the Nantucket list.
>
> bob gillis
>>
>> I feel pretty sure that my ggg came from Nantucket into NYC, but I
>> don't know if I have found the right family I would like to prove or
>> disprove the death at sea. I don't know how these things are
>> reported, except probably that they didn't come back, and he was
>> married by then. And I wonder if his wife could have thought that if
>> he didn't return for quite a while and it got recorded.
>>
>> I looked on Cyndi's List, but nothing helpful. Any suggestions? I
>> don't know where he married his wife- I can't find any records, so
>> far. I know all about his life in NYC and his death in OHio, but he
>> is bugging me. He looked exactly like Robert Burns- a very dashing
>> fellow and may have been a lawyer before becoming a ship captain.
>
> His picture looking like one of Robert Burns is IMO just a coincidence.
> Unless you have two tintypes, the likenesses are the artists'
> impressions.
>
> bob gillis
>
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