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From: "Randy and Rachel Hughes" <>
Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1860/Unknown/PAYNE
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:35:09 -0500
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Dear Bill,

I will contact our local Lawrence Co. Archives today and see if they have a
copy of the census you speak of. I will research this more in the following
days!
Thanks so much for everyone's help breaking down this brick wall!!!

Randall Hughes
Summertown, TN.
P.S. If anyone need the email address for the Lawrence Co., TN. Archives, it
is

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1860/Unknown/PAYNE


> Let me add to Linda's questions. Were the Walters from Hawkins co, TN?
> That's the only place I see a Sarah the right age.
>
> I know that George always is shown as born in AL (1900-1920) but like
> Linda I found no good candidates born in AL. Interestingly there is a
> George Payne about the right age in Lawrence county, Tn in 1880. However
> he is listed as born in England and parents in England. That's quite a
> coincidence so the
> birthplace info may be in error. I don't see a George matching this one
> and born in England before 1880. In 1870, there is a George Paine the
> right age(16) in Lauderdale co, AL.(right across the line from Lawrence
> co, TN). He is living with what appears to be an unrelated family. His
> birthplace is shown as
> Mississippi.
>
> Bill Mc
>
> Linda Murray wrote:
>
>> Randall,
>> You didn't specify a lookup year, so I checked 1860, searching for any
>> George or G. or GW Payne of any spelling in 1860 Alabama, and found none
>> born ca 1855. Is the information you furnished that George William Payne
>> was born December 15, 1855 from his death certificate or grave marker?
>>
>> The 1900 Lawrence County, Tennessee, census gives conflicting information
>> for George and Sarah, but matches what you have for their children, so I
>> am certain that it's the same family.
>> In the 1900 census, George's birth information was given as born December
>> 1842, in Alabama, his age as 51, and married for 14 years. Sarah said
>> that she was born February 1860, age 40, born in Alabama also. Where do
>> you find them enumerated in the 1880 online census, and where did they
>> marry about 1886?
>>
>> Children that year were listed as:
>> John W., born Feb 1889
>> James D. born Sep 1890
>> Mary J., born Nov 1893
>> Louie or Lonie E., born Jan 1895, and
>> Alice E., born Aug 1899
>>
>> If you decide to request a lookup from the Tennessee lookup list, you
>> might include the information that they were enumerated in 1900 in
>> Lawrence County, and their surname spelled PAIN.
>>
>> In case George's birth information is not definite, there's a George
>> Payne indexed in 1850 and 1860 Talledega County, Alabama, born ca 1845
>> instead of 1855, whose parents were William and Elizabeth (Pane in 1850,
>> as I recall), both born in Tennessee.
>>
>> Here is a list of the George Paynes indexed in the US in 1860 who were
>> born in Alabama:
>> George S. - Sumter County, Alabama - born 1824
>> George F. - Desoto County, Mississippi - born 1836
>> George M. - Sabine County, Texas - born 1832
>>
>> G. Paynes indexed in 1860:
>> G. L. - Coosa County, AL - born 1854 (parents born GA and NC)
>> William G. - Dale County, AL - born 1835
>> G. H. - Perry County, AL - born 1846
>> G. Pain - Talledega County, AL - born 1845 (parents born TN)
>> W. G. - Anderson County, TX - born 1854 (parents born SC)
>>
>> Sorry not to be able to help. Hopefully someone else on the list will.
>>
>> Linda in Georgia
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Randy and Rachel Hughes
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:32 AM
>> Subject: [AL-CEN] George William Payne b. 1855 Alabama
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I am searching for information on;
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> GEORGE WILLIAM PAYNE was born December 15, 1855 in Alabama, and died
>> March 09, 1943 in Loretto, TN.. He married SARAH E. WALTERS. She was born
>> June 01, 1871 in Tennessee, and died August 26, 1937 in Loretto, TN..
>> Notes for GEORGE WILLIAM PAYNE:
>>
>> 1910 Census for LAWRENCE CO., TN.
>>
>> " Near West Point and Lawrenceburg Rd"
>>
>> Division 15 Dist
>>
>> 162/165
>>
>> George W. PAYNE age 55 AL/TN/AL Farmer
>>
>> Sarah 47 TN/GA/TN
>>
>> James D. 19 TN/AL/TN farmer labor
>>
>> Mary 17 same
>>
>> Lizzie 15 same
>>
>> Information source: 1910 Lawrence County Census
>>
>> ============================================
>>
>> More About GEORGE WILLIAM PAYNE:
>>
>> Burial: March 11, 1943, Loretto Cemetery, Loretto, TN.
>>
>> More About SARAH E. WALTERS:
>>
>> Burial: August 28, 1937, Loretto Cemetery, Loretto, TN.
>>
>> Children of GEORGE PAYNE and SARAH WALTERS are:
>>
>> i. SUSAN PAYNE.
>>
>> More About SUSAN PAYNE:
>>
>> Nickname: Susie
>>
>> 2. ii. JOHN WILLIAM PAYNE, b. Lawrence Co., TN.; d. "a Nashville
>> Hospital".
>>
>> 3. iii. JAMES DAVID "DAVY" PAYNE, b. September 21, 1890; d. December
>> 02, 1967, Loretto, Lawrence Co., TN..
>>
>> iv. MARY PAYNE, b. 1893.
>>
>> 4. v. LIZZIE LOU PAYNE, b. January 20, 1895, Lawrence Co., TN.; d. June
>> 18, 1976, Lawrence Co., TN..
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> My quest is for information on George William Payne.
>> This is the only information I have found concerning his origins
>> (Alabama).
>> Relatively certain he was from North Alabama, but anything is possible.
>> If you have further, please contact me!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Randall Hughes
>> Summertown, TN.
>>
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