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Subject: Arthur N. SIMS & Estelle PHILLIPS
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:37:55 -0400

marriage information from Mary Smith [Thank you, Mary!]

SIMS, Arter, 23 and PHILLIPS, Estelle, 19 years applied for license 2 May 1908, married 4 May 1908 at bride's father's home by J. L. Stinson, MG. Affidavit and note of G. W. Phillips on file. Parties over 18 & 21 by Arter Sims. Page 80, Volume1907-12 W. (There are two other marriages for Arthur Sims and Arthur Wirt Sims).
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1900 Butler Co. Ala. Census Precinct 11 Forest Home and Butler Springs, June 30, 1900 p. 145 ED 18
307/307 Phillips, George W. head w m Sept. 1870 29 M10yrs Ala. Ala. Ala. Farmer
MOllie wife w f Apr. 1870 30 M10yrs 4/4 Ala. Ga. Ga.
Josephine dau Nov 1890 9 Ala. Ala. Ala.
*Estell dau May 1893 7
Addie dau Mar 1896 4
Ella M. dau July 1898 1
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1910 Butler Co. Ala. Census, Beat 19, McKenzie April 21, 1910
Mckenzie and County Line
76/76 Sims Arter head m w 24 M2 1yr. Ala. Ala. Ala. Farmer/General farm
Estelle wife f w 19 M1 1yr 1/1
Maud dau 6
John E. son 1
Smith James Boarder m w 14
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Estelle died before 1920.

from the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com
Name: Mrs. Arthur Sims [could be Estelle Phillips Sims]
Death Date: 19 Feb 1917 Death County: Butler
Volume: 13 Roll: 2 Page #: 319
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1920 Baldwin Co. Ala. Precinct 3, Stockton and Deans [Several words crossed out--"One south of R. 3 east, New Life Settlement"], Feb. 20th, 1920, p. 39, ED 3 Sheet 18A
379/379 Sims, Arthur N. Head m w 38 Wd. Ala. Ala. Ala. Laborer/Saw Mill
Maud dau 17 Keeps home
Floyd G. or C.? son 6 Child at home
William _.? son 4 11/12 "

1930 Baldwin Co., Ala. Precinct 6 Stapleton, April 4, 1930 ED 9
18/18 Sims, Arter head m w 40 M at 20 Ala. Ala. Ala. Laborer/Naval? stores
Ruby wife f w 21 M at 15
Floyd son 17

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From: Irishsttr2
Subject: Re: [ALBUTLER] Unidentified subject! (SIMS)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:37:06 -0400

This is just a GUESS!
A Butler County marriage license dated May 2, 1908, should offer proof.
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1910 Butler Co. Ala. Census, Beat 19, McKenzie April 21, 1910
Mckenzie and County Line
76/76 Sims Arter head m w 24 M2 1yr. Ala. Ala. Ala. Farmer/General farm
Estelle wife f w 19 M1 1yr 1/1
Maud dau 6
John E. son 1
Smith James Boarder m w 14
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The article was dated May 1908. Arter and Estelle above seem to be a possible match. This Arthur Sims had been previously married and had a daughter Maud from his first marriage.
I found an Estell PHILLIPS on the 1900 Butler Co. Census with birthdate May 1893 which would make her turn 15 years old in May of 1908. Her age fits the story.
I believe this is Arthur/Arter Nebraska Sims, son of Robert Sims (and second wife Martha Coleman), son of James and Susan Sims.
more on this later...
Cheryll

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Subject: [ALBUTLER] Unidentified subject!

I found this interesting story on one page of the newspaper items that Cheryll Sumner posted. (Thank you, Cheryll!)
Does anyone know which "Arthur Sims" is the groom in the story? I have several Arthurs; could be any one of them.
Freda
>5-13-1908 [Greenville Adv. or TLT?]
>IN JAIL FOR TRYING TO GET A WIFE
>Deputy Sheriff MURPHY gives us the following bit of court house news.
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>On Saturday the 2nd, a young man named Arthur SIMS, living in the >Shackleville neighborhood, came to town and applied for license to >marry Miss PHILLIPS. He swore that the young lady was 19 years of >age. Upon making affidavit to that effect the license was granted. >Next morning old Mr. PHILLIPS armed with a shot gun, and bringing >his daughter, came to town and went at once to the court house in >search of Judge Lampley. He wanted to know if it was a fact that >young SIMS had secured license to marry his daughter, and Judge >Lampley told him he had, showing him the affidavit young SIMS had >made. Phillips then swore out a warrant for the young man, charging >him with perjury, saying the girl was only fourteen years of age.
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>The warrant was turned over to Deputy MURPHY to serve. That >afternoon he went out to make the arrest. When he got to the home of >the girl, where he expected to find the young man, SIMS was not >there.
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>He then went to the young man's home but still failed to find him. >He then gave the impression that he did not want him anyway and >left, but remained in the neighborhood, going back to SIMS home at 2 >o'clock in the morning and found him still up and dressed.
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>SIMS told the deputy that if he would give him time to go and marry >the girl, that he would give up and come to twon with him. This >proposition was agreed to and they went over to Mr. PHILLIPS' who >then consented for his daughter to marry the young man. A minister >was secured, Rev. Leander STINSON, and by the light of a pine knot >the words were said that made the two young people one. Mr. Murphy >stood as best man, as well as guard. The officer of the law and the >bridegroom, without the latter even so much as saluting his blushing >bride, left for Greenville, reaching here at six o'clock Monday >morning. The young man was placed in jail under the serious charge >of perjury, where he still lingers. The Judge fixed his bond at >$300, which has not been made, and the disconsolate young man is >pining in the gaol [sic], while the young bride grieves at the old >homestead.
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>It is hard for this young man to be compelled to linger in jail just >for telling a little "white lie" to get his sweetheart. Tens of >thousands of other men do worse than that and never have to suffer. >We hope the young man's friends will soon make the requisite bond.
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