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From: Steve Robinson <>
Subject: [ALDALLAS-L] RE: [ALCONECU] Henry Jones and the 1870 Butler County Census...UP DATE!!
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:57:10 -0400


To be honest with you, Mary Ann,

I am still trying to verify whether or not this is my Henry Jones and
whether or not Frank
and Adeline are 'my' Henry Jones' respective father and mother...once I have
that in hand, then I can proceed to the 1860 Slave Census...if that census
can truly verify these individuals...

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Ann Raley [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:23 PM
To: Steve Robinson
Subject: Re: Henry Jones and the 1870 Butler County Census...UPDATE!!


Claiborne, according to Place Names in Alabama (Virginia O. Foscue), is
"Community with discontinued PO at 313224NO873056W is Monroe Co. The
settlement grew up around the fort built in 1813 on a bluff overlooking the
Alaabma River to serve as a military and supply post for troops under the
command of Ferdinand L. Claiborne, general of the MS militia sent to fight
the hostile Creek Indians. Served as Co. seat, 1815-1832. PO est. in
1831."

That entry is followed by "Claiborne Lake - Artificial lake formed by the
impoundment of the Alabama River by Claiborne Lock and Dam at
313653NO873308W in 1968. Named for the miliary fort and supply depot that
was located a few miles to the south in Monroe Co."

A modern map of Alabama should show Claiborne Lake, which will give you a
good idea where the fort/community was.

As for how he got to Alabama.... Your guess is as good as mine, but since he
was born in Virginia, his parents were born in Virginia, and his wife's
parents were born in Virginia, their owner(s) moving to Alabama from
Virginia is probably a pretty good guess. Have you been able to find Frank
and Adeline on any earlier census? How about the 1860 slave census?

Keep us posted on your search!

Mary Ann

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Robinson <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:34 AM
Subject: [ALCONECU] Henry Jones and the 1870 Butler County Census...UPDATE!!


> As you all may know,
>
> I am still looking to positively identify, through Census records, my
great
> great grandfather Henry Jones, an African-American man born in Greenville
in
> 1863, and who his father was...so far, this is my only lead, given to me
by
> Mrs. Kay Anderson:
>
> 1870 JONES HENRY Butler County AL 342 Greenville P.O. Federal
> Population Schedule AL 1870 Federal Census Index AL115139604
>
> Through the kindness of the Butler County Genealogical Society, I now have
> in my possession a copy of the marriage certificate for Henry Jones and
> Laura Palmore from Dec 30, 1884/Jan 1, 1885...I am overjoyed to have
this...
>
>
> NEW INFORAMATION
>
>
> However, just the other day, I got an email from Pam Howard
> [] regarding the 1880 Census and my great great grandfather
> Henry Jones...I was also informed by Mrs. Howard that "the Henry Jones on
an
> 1870 census would have been the head of house, not a seven year old little
> boy". So, I took that piece of information and ran with it...To all whom
> are interested, look at this particular entry:
>
> Census Place: Claiborne, Monroe, Alabama
> Source: FHL Film 1254024 National Archives Film T9-0024 Page 284A
> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> Frank JONES Self M M B 45 VA
> Occ: Farming Fa: VA Mo: VA
> Adeline JONES Wife F M B 50 AL
> Occ: Farming Fa: VA Mo: VA
> Henry JONES Son M B 16 AL
> Occ: Farming Fa: VA Mo: AL
> Betsy JONES Dau F S B 12 AL
> Occ: Farming Fa: VA Mo: AL
> Fred JONES Son M S B 7 AL
> Fa: VA Mo: AL
>
> I know for a fact that Wilcox, Butler and Monroe Counties share a
> border...and I also know that there was plenty of movement in those days
> "between counties"...
>
> It is very possible that my great great grandfather Henry Jones was "16"
> during the compilation of the 1880 Census...I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE
> CLAIBORNE IS!! I have never heard of it...Tell me, for curiousity
purposes,
> where, geographically, is Claiborne....and...and
>
> COULD THIS BE THE HENRY JONES...MY HENRY JONES...AND HIS PARENTS...THE
SAME
> PEOPLE THAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR?
>
> AND IF FRANK JONES WAS HIS FATHER, A FORMER SLAVE NONETHELESS, BORN IN
> VIRGINIA...HOW DID HE GET TO LOWER ALABAMA?
>
> Steve
>
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