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ALT-GENEALOGY-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 42
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: FTM has 80% of the market??? [ (Norman H. West)]
#2 Re: Genealogy Odds [ (Don Johnson)]
#3 EHLERTS [ (Doug Holt]
#4 Re: St. Joseph County Michigan ["Douglas V. Nelson" <]
#5 Ellis Island Story []
#6 Beginner needs assistance ["John & Peggy Coffey" <]
#7 Swanson,Svensson [Del & Maxine Webb <]
#8 Re: bad things about FTM []
#9 Re: Genealogy Odds []
#10 Re: Merchant Marines [James A Honeychuck <]
#11 ROANE CO. TENN 1801-1870 ["Mark Tauscher" <.]
#12 Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA [ (Hilary A Cro]
#13 Re: Where has soc.genealogy.surnam [Jim Marshall <>]
#14 Re: FTM and This Group [Sue Boyer <>]
#15 alderdice ["M. Burns" <]
#16 EAST INDIA COMPANY RECORDS c1700-1 [ (Ellen & Wall]
#17 Re: Laptop's in research ["Bob Huddleston" <>]
#18 Re: FTM and This Group [ (Chuck)]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 31 Aug 1997 21:52:28 GMT
From: (Norman H. West)
To:
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Subject: Re: FTM has 80% of the market???
>My feeling is that the 80% figure is, at best, misleading.
For those people who seem to hate Broderbund with a passion, who do not like
Family Tree Maker, who think the price for Broderbund CDs are way too high,
and those who resent sending their family information to Broderbund and having
Broderbund charging for issuing a CD containing that information, I have the
solution.
Do NOT buy Family Tree Maker, do NOT buy Broderbund CDs and do NOT send your
family information to Broderbund. That way, you will have your revenge!
It is true you will not receive any information about your family tree from
other CDs and, after you die, your hard-gained genealogical information will
probably end up in your executor's waste basket, but then, you will have had
your revenge.
Now that you have your solution, please stop the whining postings. If I hear
from the venomous tongue of D.S. one more time, I'll barf.
Norm
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X-Message: #2
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:09:33 GMT
From: (Don Johnson)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Genealogy Odds
(Charles) wrote:
>What are the odds of finding a distant cousin on the internet?
Personally, I find that the odds dramatically increase if one
posts queries to the (in my case) local County Web Sites of the State
involved... At any rate, this works for me!
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X-Message: #3
Date: 31 Aug 1997 19:29:27 -0500
From: (Doug Holtz)
To:
Message-ID: <5ud297$q7$1@earth.execpc.com>
Subject: EHLERTS
Howdy.
My Holtz family came to the US in Nov 1881. To my surprise I discovered
that they also brought their cousins, named Ehlerts. All came from the
Tribsees area of Prussia.
Any one an Ehlerts out there?
Doug Holtz
Milwaukee, WI
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X-Message: #4
Date: 31 Aug 1997 23:01:56 GMT
From: "Douglas V. Nelson" <>
To:
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Subject: Re: St. Joseph County Michigan
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Ron Taylor wrote:
> Am planning trip later this year to research (Davis) family
> that lived in Leonidas in the mid 1800s. Can anyone suggest
> particular libraries, historical or genealogical societies I
> could contact in the area?
>
> Please e-mail response.
>
> Thank you
>
> Ron Taylor
> Brisbane, Ca
>
Check out Web site. St. Joseph County Michigan USGenWeb Homepage at
http://multimag.com/county/mi/saintjoseph/gov.html it may give you
some information.
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X-Message: #5
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:41:08 -0600
From:
To:
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Subject: Ellis Island Story
For anyone interested in learning how our ancestors gained freedom
going
thru Ellis Island I suggest you watch/tape this 3 part series. It will
start airing on Mon Sept 1st, 2nd & 3rd at 8:00am to 9:00am all 3
days.
I've seen it before (all in one show) while surfing the channels. I
wish I
had known it was so long, I would have taped it. Whoever did the
research
for this program did a hell of a GREAT job. Lots of interviews with
Folks
who told what it was like to go thru all the steps to freedom. It's a
MUST
SEE!!!
Hope you get this in time.......
Dan
Venice,FL
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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X-Message: #6
Date: 31 Aug 1997 22:41:48 GMT
From: "John & Peggy Coffey" <!.com>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcb5c9$57e4d600$>
Subject: Beginner needs assistance
I've recently begun researching my family and I've already run into a
stumbling block. My grandfather died in 1936, in London, Ohio, and I've
not had much luck in tracing back any further.
My father's birth certificate states that my grandfather was from South
Carolina. My grandfather's death certificate states that he was from North
Carolina. The 1920 census shows that he was from Ohio! I don't think that
the census information is accurate as it disagrees with information from my
family and the other documents.
I don't know where to go from here, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
--
Please remove the exclamation point from header address
before replying. I'm avoiding spambots.
John Coffey
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X-Message: #7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:20:43 +0000
From: Del & Maxine Webb <>
To:
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Subject: Swanson,Svensson
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Would like information on Swanson families. My grandfather, born in
1863, was the son of Johanna Sofia Hast and Johnas T. Swanson. Johnas
was born in Smaland, Narrkiping (near Bishop Hill) Sweden - or - in Asko
Soken, Sweden.
We would like to find more information prior to 1835. Can you help?
Thanks,
Maxine and Del Webb
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X-Message: #8
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 04:51:01 GMT
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Subject: Re: bad things about FTM
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Thus spake Carl Cason <> on Sun, 31 Aug 1997
17:27:24 -0700:
>Cheryl Singhal wrote:
>
>> Will someone -- ANYone -- kindly explain to me how on God's green earth
>> it can easier to type
>> Schmidt Johan Jakob Yingleheimer
>> into program A than into program B?!?
>
>Some programs, perhaps many, provide some little shortcuts for entering
>names. For instance, in BK, children's surnames can be automatically
>entered with ctrl-, which saves a lot of keying.
>--
>Carl Cason, of Bothell, Washington
>email:
>
>
Family Tree Maker automatically inserts them without prompting. You
can change them, of course, if you want to.
It also automatically guesses places from the first characters you
enter, another feature someone mentioned from another program.
Other than a circular diagram (which I'd love to see just to see what
it is), I haven't seen anyone mention specific features of other
programs that FTM doesn't offer. I would be interested - I'm not in
the least averse to using more than one program. if there's a reason.
Dexter Kenfield
New York, New York
Researching KENFIELD/CANFIELD/CAMVILLE in England
JAGO in Boston, New Brunswick, County Cork, Ireland
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X-Message: #9
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 04:46:34 GMT
From:
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Subject: Re: Genealogy Odds
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Thus spake (Charles) on Sat, 30 Aug 1997 23:58:18
GMT:
>What are the odds of finding a distant cousin on the internet?
>
>I found my only cousin (3rd cousin once removed) through the internet
>this week. I regularly post and visit dozens of web sites and work
>hard to offer data and obtain information on literally hundreds of
>names.
>
>What is the average track record? What successes are others having
>and are there sites that have many times more visits that others such
>as Roots-L?
>
>I think it will be interesting to get other insights into this
>question.
>
>Charles Duncan
>Dallas
>
>
I've found a couple of relatives, and a few possible relatives (the
ties to them are so far back in time we don't really know) through
direct Internet contacts.
But more useful for me have been information sources contacted through
the Net, which in turn led to relatives. For instance, contacting a
person also researching in New Brunswick led ultimately to snail mail
contact with two living relatives. They're not on the Net themselves,
but the contacts would never have been made, in all likelihood,
without the Net.
Plus, of course, the Net makes contact so much quicker and easier even
with relatives you knew about all along.
Dexter Kenfield
New York, New York
Researching KENFIELD/CANFIELD/CAMVILLE in England
JAGO in Boston, New Brunswick, County Cork, Ireland
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:56:26 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <>
To:
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Subject: Re: Merchant Marines
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PJB4KWB wrote:
>
> I have posted this message on other boards and always someone is going to
> email the answer, but they never do. So I'll try here.
> I'm looking for the records of a Merchant Marine who received a medal from
> the US Gov for valor in WW11 (don't know what for) This is my husbands
> father who he never knew. I am sure he was just a sea man not anything of
> rank. Do know he was wrecked several times.
> Where could I get this record withvery little information?
> Please email to
>
> Thank you
I suggest you ask the advice of the American Merchant Marine Veterans.
See http://www.liberty-ship.com/pls-htm/pls_amv0.htm
and e-mail George R. Searle - National President
Email:
Good luck in your search.
Jim
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X-Message: #11
Date: 1 Sep 1997 00:05:52 GMT
From: "Mark Tauscher" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcb673$f6709980$>
Subject: ROANE CO. TENN 1801-1870
Hi i have a book titled Roane county Tennessee History 1801-1870 i will
look up any inf that you want free of charge of course
Mark Tauscher
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X-Message: #12
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:25:15 GMT
From: (Hilary A Croughton)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA
A special page has been set up for those who wish to leave messages of
condolance to Princess Diana's family.
It can be found on the Buckingham Palace site:
http://www.Royal.gov.uk
In your posts on this topic please remember that many of us in the UK
are still in deep shock and will be mourning for many days to come.
(This is not meant to relect in any way on the original post-er)
Hilary
Ipswich, Suffolk, UK
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:52:21 -0500
From: Jim Marshall <>
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Where has soc.genealogy.surnames gone?
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Rolland D. Everitt wrote:
>
> mary stewart kyritsis wrote:
> >
> > Pudentane wrote:
> > >
> > > Your question re: surnames was very valid because I
> > > have not been able to get them either.
> > >
> > > Pudentane
> > >
> > > Robert W. Bass <> wrote in article
> > > <5u4tuk$>...
> > > > Recently I have been unable to get to soc.genealogy.surnames. My
> > > newsreader
> > > > says the there are 0 articles in the newsgroup. Is it still active or do
> > > I
> > > > have a problem at my end?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > I still get them, but there are very few postings because apparently
> > most people have gone over to the new soc.genealogy.britain.surnames and
> > soc.genealogy.ireland.surnames, which my server so far has not yet given
> > me. My solution was to sign up for the mailing lists instead, GENBRIT-D
> > and GENIRE-D.
> > Regards,
> > Mary
>
> Can you tell us how to subscribe to those mailing lists?
>
> Rolland Everitt
> --
> Rolland D. Everitt
> e-mail:
> www: http://users.ids.net/~reveritt
Within the last few minutes I got the soc.genealogy surnames with 99
listed. Have you added it to your newsgroup listing. Recently my
server lost all my list and I had to make it over
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X-Message: #14
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:23:07 -0700
From: Sue Boyer <>
To:
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Subject: Re: FTM and This Group
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C D White wrote:
> While I am hoping, I also hope that the loud and the nasty will
> reduce their "contributions" to this newsgroup.
>
> Dave White
Well said...some could also benefit from a refesher course
in "Netiquette"
http://search.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.02/news/news2.html#netiquette
--
Susan Boyer
http://www.hollinet.com/~suebdoo/
Researching: ABRAMS (CA) - BAXLEY - BOYER (VT)
CHERRY (IN) - LOGAN (AL>AR>CA) - McINTOSH
SIBLEY (ME>CA) - TYLER (NY>CA)
--
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X-Message: #15
Date: 1 Sep 1997 03:04:26 GMT
From: "M. Burns" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcb66a$8c398620$>
Subject: alderdice
looking for anyone doing research on Alderdice, here or in northern
Ireland! thanks!! mburns
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X-Message: #16
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:48:29 GMT
From: (Ellen & Wallace White)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: EAST INDIA COMPANY RECORDS c1700-1800's
Require info on where to access East India Company records of military
and civilian administrative staff, late 1700's & 1800's
Thanks in advance
E. White
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X-Message: #17
Date: 1 Sep 1997 04:18:15 GMT
From: "Bob Huddleston" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcb685$70fa78e0$>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research
What type of portable scanner do you use?
Bob
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Metro Brokers Adco Associates Office: (303) 457-9300
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Charles & Karen Hofmann <> wrote in article
<>..
SNIP
>. I have a hand
> scanner I attach as well, I use in the archives where they will not
> allow copies (especially in some churches in Northern Germany), if they
> will allow it directly into my Laptop.
>
> Charles Hofmann aus Tucson Arizona
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X-Message: #18
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 04:15:40 GMT
From: (Chuck)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: FTM and This Group
On 1 Sep 1997 00:10:54 GMT, "C D White" <> wrote:
>I am befuddled by the emotionalism about software that seems to be a plague
>on this newsgroup. Some subscribers seem to be nurturing a serious hatred
>for what is merely a commercial product!
That makes at least two of us. There are probably at least hundreds
of thousands of people now dabbling in genealogy that would never have
taken the first step in that direction had it not been for FTM. I'm
one of 'em! The program is so easy to use that the software
practically runs itself. Once the information is entered it is so
easily accessable that anyone who ever sat in front of a computer
could do it! I have some family members that are using other software
to do their genealogy in ... I wouldn't trade the box my FTM came in
for both of their programs combined!
As far as the World Family Tree project is concerned ... that's a
decision that everyone will have to make for themselves. Whether to
buy or not to buy any or all of the CDs and whether or not to
contribute any data to the project. No one is holding a gun to
anyone's head and forceing them to buy or to contribute data. I have
an opportunity to take a look at some of the CDs and I'm sure gonna
take advantage of the opportunity ... then I'll decide if the purchase
price is worth it to _me_. I'm the only one that can make that
decision for me and if I decide to purchase and someone wants to
consider me a sucker for doing so .... ;o) ;o) ;o) ... hell, I
may buy two or three of 'em!
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