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From: "borrasart" <>
Subject: Re: on Genealogy Warning
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 10:21:14 GMT


I accept your opinion about this matter of the namechange but do you
realize what it means to change an opinion after 40 years about the
origin of a name, that is much more important for me.
My father never know this before he died.
His whole life he was telling that the origin of his name was jewish
because of this terrible familyregister with that introduction of that
stupid
professor.
I understand your interest in those kind of details as a hobby but
for me is more important was is the outcome on the mind of this
kind of stuff.
The effects of those kind of information connected to status and
position. When you speak to a Jew or live together with Jews
you will notice the importance of those things.
When you have a rare name like Borra, people your will ask
you your whole life: Where is that name coming from?
Maybe the same thing will happens with Pence, I don't know.
For more than 40 years I gave the wrong answer and that was
the importance for me of Bobs information (thanks) and of
that name was changes from borray to borra is not interesting
for me. I only told what I found in the papers and let we conclude
that it was very nice in those days that people had different kind
of spellings.
For my self I conclude on the matter that the damage on the mind
(inflation) is bigger than the bennefit of these genealogystuff.
I n countries like the us and australia those things are maybe more
important because of the fact that in the old days outof europe
the criminals were send to the colonies. My memory of the
schoolteachings in europe.
Have a good time with this terrible stuff.

pieter borra
Richard A. Pence heeft geschreven in bericht
<8mgct3$t72$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
>Pieter, all I can do is repeat what I wrote in the message to which you are
>replying:
>
>> Actually, Pieter, by your own description, the documents you
>> have prove nothing pertaining to a name change; they merely
>> reveal different spellings of the name.
>
>That is to say, the conclusions you have reached might well be true, but
the
>evidence you have cited does not "prove" it.
>
>You may want to read my article on "Sources, Citations, Documentation and
>Evaluating Evidence in Genealogy" at:
>
>http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/classdoc.htm
>
>Regards,
>Richard Pence
>
>"borray" <> wrote in message
>news:X_Ei5.574388$...
>> Hello Richard,
>> I have in my possession more than 50 documents (copies of the
>> originals) by the citycouncil the public notary and outoff the
>> churchbooks with the same spelling of borra over a period of
>> more than 300 years . One time there was 1 exception, borra
>> was written borre. The changes de borrai, borray to borra I
>> have mentioned before were from 1613 and 1680.
>
>> This happened in the city of Utrecht.
>
>> This is not my profession or my hobby but what is going on
>> here? A clerck with an age of more than 300 years I never met,
>> lol.
>
>> This was not my own investigation. A cousin of my father
>> working at the citycouncil made this familyregister. I have no
>> reason to give another perception of these papers. My only
>> problem with the stuff was that in the introduction of this
>> family register a prof. Van Praag (jewish) told that the origin of
>> the name was jewish. For that reason for more than 40 years I
>> lived with the opinion that it was a hebrew name.
>
>> I had no reason to doubt that story, why shoud I?
>
>In genealogy you learn to doubt a great deal of what you are told.
>
>> pieter borra.
>
>
>
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