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From: (saki)
Subject: Re: Help with photo ID date and cultural origin
Date: 2 Sep 2004 18:53:50 -0700
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singhals <> wrote in message news:<4135bf04$0$19718$>...
> saki wrote:
>
> > Could someone familiar with old wedding photos take a look at this,
> > please? I suspect it's my great-grandmother and great-grandfather.
> >
> > http://dumes.net/familypics/Devorah_Dumes/cath_and_hans.jpg
> >
> > I'm curious about any clues in the photo, especially whether it
> > reveals any Danish or German style of matrimonial dress, particularly
> > for the lady.
> >
> > I'd also be glad to know whether anyone has a feel for its date. I
> > believe the original photo was taken in Nebraska and it was copied in
> > Chicago when these folks moved there c. 1890. My guess is that the
> > photo is from 1878 but if anyone has anything substantive to add, I'd
> > be most grateful, particularly if you believe that the photo could not
> > have been taken that early.
> >
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> >
>
> Nice fob the guy has, and I *adore* the way she so-properly shows just
> the tip of her shoe, and the gloves she's holding. Very nicely brought
> up young lady. (g)

How nice of you to say so! I have a theory that the fob---which
appears to have a cameo---is the one worn in this photo (c. 1902) of
their children. Take a look at the older boy's fob:

http://dumes.net/familypics/Devorah_Dumes/cath_kinder.jpg

Is it the same?

> I'm afraid I can't support the notion that this was taken more than a
> year or so after marriage, though. The young lady has not had children
> yet, and is not visibly pregnant. Are you *sure* this wasn't taken on
> their wedding trip to Chicago?

It hadn't occurred to me that the couple might have had enough money
for a wedding trip, but perhaps they did. Was it the custom at the
time? Eventually (about 1893) the family moved to Chicago.

The gentleman who commented on the ages of the couple was right about
the man; he was 28. The lady was 16, however, if it was taken as early
(1878) as I believe it was.

I also appreciated the comment from the fellow who mentioned that the
veil and gardland of flowers was typically Schleswig. Both my
grandparents came from Schleswig-Holstein. I don't know the style of
dress myself so it's very helpful to have details that help me
determine the culture of the couple so I can identify them.

> When did potted palms become a staple of the photographic studio?

Not sure about that; I'll check it out.

Many thanks for all the comments!

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