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From: Diane Webb <>
Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] MAROTTA
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 20:43:33 -0700
In-Reply-To: <003101c1f3e5$3aaf1e60$61c1fea9@default>


Hello Felicia, you have given me extra information about Bertolomeo - that
is, he was going to his relatives by the same surname.

My ggmother said her family went from Italy to USA, but this was way before
the families you mentioned. She said she was born on the ship going from
Philadelphia to UK, hence her birth place of London on the 1881 Census
(under her married name).

It seems obvious there were family by the name of EROTTI by 1900's in USA,
but if my ggm's story is correct, probably isn't (and she was born c1858)
then her own parents must have left Italy before that - gone to Philadelphia
and left there to go on to UK all before her birth in c1858.

The name EROTTI is clearly a "real" name and it is just a matter of finding
how it was corrupted in the 1861 Census and beyond, except for ggm's
marriage certificates and on the birth certificates of her children.

So many people on the List have been helpful and I appreciate all. I feel
sure I will find the family at some stage.

Diane

-----Original Message-----
From: Felicia Cocking [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:31 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] MAROTTA


Hello Daphne,
There are 2 EROTTI on the Ellis Island site
Bertolomeo(probably Bartolomeo) from Ferentella arrived NYC May 16th 1913
Was going to his relatives (Francesco Erotti) 344 Oliver street left behind
his wife Agnese Feruselli(sp?)
Antonio Erotti from gargnano going to his cousin Giuseppe Piccini
Felicia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daphne Dashfield" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] MAROTTA


> > Hello Listers, In an act of desperation, I'm asking if anyone on the
list
> > can possibly see the name EROTTI as a corruption of MAROTTA, or vice
versa!
>
> I think you have to think of handwriting interpretations (of the
transcriber) when you look at census
> indexes as well as phonetic spelling (including using letter names as
sounds) used by the census
> enumerator.
>
> I suppose "Um, EROTTI" could just become MAROTTE which could be
mistranscribed as MAROTTA.
>
> However I can't see how "M" could be lost from MAROTTA. Unless they were
thought to say Um,
> Ah-rowt-tah - except it would have to be A(y)ro(w)tte(e) to make Erotti
(hope I got the vowels right).
> I can see how my family's name GHIRARDANI became GERADINE and even with a
census transcription error
> and a poor enumerator, GLARINI ("e" replaced by "l by the transcriber) but
"M" is a large letter not
> easily lost. EROTTI could become AROTE or even AYWROTEY?!
>
> Do you have any events such as baptism or marriage near 1881 to give
possible addresses?
> That's how I found my gg grandfather and remaining family masquerading as
a GLARINI in Bakers Row,
> Clerkenwell in the 1881 index . I've yet to view the film of the original
census notebook which I
> suspect is GEARINI. I don't think that enumerator had a good ear for
Italian names/spelling (I have
> another example of a relative in the same street) and I know my gg
grandfather couldn't sign his name
> at my g grandfather's marriage in 1876 so he wouldn't be able to help
much. At least some priests
> could spell!
>
> Is there a particular reason why it might be Marotta? I've lost track of
where EROTTI came from now.
>
> Daphne Dashfield (Geradine)
> GHIRADANI + ~15 spelling variations
>
>
>
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