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From: "Tina Pearce" <>
Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Albino ROTA
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:17:01 +0800
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Hi everyone, while trying to help Eunice find the elusive Albino Gioia I
found sadly birth & death aged 1 year in Holburn of Albino Rota whom I know
Derek is researching.
Eunice, I'm of little or no help here. There are lots of BMD's starting in
1909 with birth of Yolanda right thro to marr. in 2000, all counties.
Closes I can get is 13th century Flavio who invented the compass! Perhaps I
could help with Florence Taplin's family? I guess you would have most of
that, much easier than our Italian names. I did just first names in for
Giacomo & Albino (it does bring up other spellings i.e Albinus, Albinio) The
nearest to his age was Albino Agosti (not sure if scribed correct) 23
Waiter at an Inn, living with his brother a chef in Soho 1901 b Italy.
No cigar for me I'm afraid. Good luck Eunice, Tina Morana

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From: leonard D'agostino
Date: 03/21/05 12:30:36
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Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Albino GIOIA

Eunice what a challenge. I hope some of our intrepid researchers are already
on to this. Maybe our executive could donate a silver cup or a silver pen as
a prize for the first member to unearth the mystery of Albino Flavio GIOIA.
Keep on looking
Leonard D'Agostino freezing in Toronto on the first day of Spring

----- Original Message -----
From: "E & R Shanahan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Albino GIOIA


> Leonard
> We don't have a university handy but it is interesting that Amazon have
> the book, I will look at that site. I don't know whether it will be of
> any use to me, but you just never know.
> But as for kick-starting research for my grandfather, I have been there
> and done that, and there is just nothing about him anywhere, plus I am
> completely stymied as we know no actual facts about his birth. I have his
> details on all his childrens' birth certificates, I have his marriage
> certificate, information on his wife's death certificate, and on the
> daughters' marriage certificates, but NONE of them give any details as to
> his origins. He is not in the 1881, 1891 or 1901 censuses (censii?). My
> mother and her siblings knew nothing about him, except to say that "he
did
> not speak with an Italian accent - and if you look at your older brother,
> that is what our dad looked like" which is a great help. I know now from
> his marriage certificate in 1914 that he stated he was a 35 year old chef
> and that his father was Giacomo GIOIA, a cook.
> When I began this family research I was told that it would be a cinch with
> a name like Albino Flavio GIOIA - but he seems to have escaped all the
> nets. He was a merchant seaman in 1914-15 on the Malwa but the PRO
> records for that period are missing - the P and O records were lost in
the
> war. It is just amazing and very frustrating - but that's genealogy for
> you isn't it.
> I do appreciate the help and suggestions from members of this list and
> just hope that somewhere along the way I will get some information which
> will lead me to him to give me his background <sigh>
> Cheers
> Eunice in Queensland
>
>
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